Panzer Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 The Khan is honestly one of my favorite loyal Primarchs ... White Scars as army are just so utterly boring lol Paladin777 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5155900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I considered white scars before starting blood angels for that reason, but eventually the thirst called too strongly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5155901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 The Khan is honestly one of my favorite loyal Primarchs ... White Scars as army are just so utterly boring in 8th Edition. lol Fixed that for your.  I loved my Scarblade all-bikes-and-Speeders army from 7th. Shame it’s a pale shell of itself now. Zebulon and Quixus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5155922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_Dew Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I'm drooling.   <sniped none relevant images>  I'm wondering how it will look with the helmet from the Blood Angels upgrade set, the one with only the tear drop under the eye and the halo-esque head dress, maybe with some of the gold filigree from the transfer sheet on the other side to the tear Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5190074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 With the Forge World Proteus Pattern Land Speeder crew rocking red helmets, does this mean that FW are leaning towards red helms being a standard for the Legion, even Close Support/Fast attack units? Â https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Proteus-Pattern-Land-Speeder-Set-1-2018 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5190078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 With the Forge World Proteus Pattern Land Speeder crew rocking red helmets, does this mean that FW are leaning towards red helms being a standard for the Legion, even Close Support/Fast attack units? Â https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Proteus-Pattern-Land-Speeder-Set-1-2018 I think they're going with the idea of colored helmets being the BAs way of adopting RG's new C:Astartes? Â With Sanguinius no longer around to argue on their behalf, it's not like they had much weight to say no... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5190081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018  With the Forge World Proteus Pattern Land Speeder crew rocking red helmets, does this mean that FW are leaning towards red helms being a standard for the Legion, even Close Support/Fast attack units?  https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Proteus-Pattern-Land-Speeder-Set-1-2018 I think they're going with the idea of colored helmets being the BAs way of adopting RG's new C:Astartes? With Sanguinius no longer around to argue on their behalf, it's not like they had much weight to say no...  Even if he was still around, Sangy respected his brother and would've probably agreed.  However, I'd imagine that this colour scheme gives us no real insight into the tactical markings of the Legion and could've been painted months ago before the details were finalised! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5190121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018   With the Forge World Proteus Pattern Land Speeder crew rocking red helmets, does this mean that FW are leaning towards red helms being a standard for the Legion, even Close Support/Fast attack units?  https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Proteus-Pattern-Land-Speeder-Set-1-2018 I think they're going with the idea of colored helmets being the BAs way of adopting RG's new C:Astartes? With Sanguinius no longer around to argue on their behalf, it's not like they had much weight to say no...  Even if he was still around, Sangy respected his brother and would've probably agreed.  However, I'd imagine that this colour scheme gives us no real insight into the tactical markings of the Legion and could've been painted months ago before the details were finalised!   I maintain that the coloured helmets cannot logically be implemented after the BA became nominally codex-adherent, because the coloured helms by their very nature are codex divergent. Same reason BA don't have company coloured shoulder pad trim, and the more codex adherent Blood Drinkers do, etc.  That the codex is a codification of the best tactical doctrines enacted by each of the Legions further cements this - if it's in the codex, then some Legion or other was probably doing it first (Like the Siege Tyrants/Atramentar).  Even if it wasn't used by the entire Legion, it had to exist in some form or the other before the codex dropped. Arkangilos, Charlo and Majkhel 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5190202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I have a feeling that we'll see all red as the standard for the IX Legion. Â A. it's lazy for the painters/designers (being realistic) B. 30k/HH has a bit of the "planet of hats" thing going C. traditions evolve and change over time, even in a setting like 40k that literally worships the past. Â My thought around C is that the helmet colors would be something that evolved over time, especially as the Red Thirst and Black Rage became more prominent the further away from Sanguinius' passing his descendants got. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5190238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I have a feeling that we'll see all red as the standard for the IX Legion.  B. 30k/HH has a bit of the "planet of hats" thing going  I couldn't agree less!  At every turn the pages of the Black books are filled with alternative unit markings, colouration, variants and other quirks of individual forces. While on the very surface yes, Ultras are blue and Fists are yellow, they (and other legions) have a lot of little details that expand their pallet a lot.  Red, gold, black (and marble...?) will be our main colours, but we'll probably see at least one scheme that's a bit different to the norm. Quixus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5190366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) I maintain that the coloured helmets cannot logically be implemented after the BA became nominally codex-adherent, because the coloured helms by their very nature are codex divergent. Same reason BA don't have company coloured shoulder pad trim, and the more codex adherent Blood Drinkers do, etc. Â That the codex is a codification of the best tactical doctrines enacted by each of the Legions further cements this - if it's in the codex, then some Legion or other was probably doing it first (Like the Siege Tyrants/Atramentar). Â Even if it wasn't used by the entire Legion, it had to exist in some form or the other before the codex dropped. It's long been established that the Codex never said how company and squad types had to be identified, just that they should be. The Black Library Index Astartes (back in what, 3rd ed?) was IIRC first to give examples of Codex chapters with Helmet, knee, chest eagle, etc company identification, and canonized the idea that the codex specifically mentioning varying such identification to confuse recurring opponents Edited November 13, 2018 by Spinsanity Quixus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5190465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I guess no one really knows this, but what are the chances of the leviathan and contemptor releasing before Christmas? I can't wait much longer! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5197400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 We will know after ths weekend I guess. If the weekend passes without giving us any informations about those I'd say the chances are about zero to get them before christmas this year. Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5197450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) With the Forge World Proteus Pattern Land Speeder crew rocking red helmets, does this mean that FW are leaning towards red helms being a standard for the Legion, even Close Support/Fast attack units? https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Proteus-Pattern-Land-Speeder-Set-1-2018 I sent off a message to FW a while ago asking whether or not Assault Marines have yellow helmets, and the message they sent me back said that coloured helmets was only a post Codex thing and that they had red helmets during the Heresy. One can expand this philosophy to the rest of the legion. Again, this was from FW support, so who knows how accurate they are. Make what you will of that. On another note, not all Blood Angels had red helmets, case and point, the BA Tartaros Termnator that was previewed. I guess no one really knows this, but what are the chances of the leviathan and contemptor releasing before Christmas? I can't wait much longer! Given the fact that it only when book 7 came out did FW release all the 1KS stuff they made up until that point, I'm guessing they wont release the Levi nor any other BA stuff before book 8 drops probably in March. The only exception I think we may get is Sanguinius because they did release Primarchs in the past before their respective Books came out. Edited November 24, 2018 by m0nolith Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5197610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I'm not good enough to pull it off, but I bet that black marble effect in that picture would look awesome on death company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5197649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I still haven't found a good tutorial to pull off black marble unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5197656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I still haven't found a good tutorial to pull off black marble unfortunately. Lil Legends Studio Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5197695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeblerartillery Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Yep, can confirm it works wonders. Be advised though- marble only looks good on flat surfaces like shoulders. Don't try it across an entire suit of power armor. Â Btw - check out my WIP thread if you'd like to see the marble scheme from lil legend Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5198118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) Â I maintain that the coloured helmets cannot logically be implemented after the BA became nominally codex-adherent, because the coloured helms by their very nature are codex divergent. Same reason BA don't have company coloured shoulder pad trim, and the more codex adherent Blood Drinkers do, etc. Â That the codex is a codification of the best tactical doctrines enacted by each of the Legions further cements this - if it's in the codex, then some Legion or other was probably doing it first (Like the Siege Tyrants/Atramentar). Â Even if it wasn't used by the entire Legion, it had to exist in some form or the other before the codex dropped. It's long been established that the Codex never said how company and squad types had to be identified, just that they should be. The Black Library Index Astartes (back in what, 3rd ed?) was IIRC first to give examples of Codex chapters with Helmet, knee, chest eagle, etc company identification, and canonized the idea that the codex specifically mentioning varying such identification to confuse recurring opponentsThe Blood Angel codices have sort of said otherwise. The prime example would be the same example Xenith used. It's specifically called out as using codex compliant markings as opposed to the BA. Edited November 24, 2018 by Arkangilos Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5198412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 God those high Res colour plates of the IXth Legion are awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5199188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 BA Leviathan: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Leviathan-Dreadnought-2018 Â BA Contemptor: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Contemptor-Dreadnought-2018 Â BA Mk IV Praetor: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Praetor-2018 Â BA Tartaros Praetor: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Terminator-Praetor-2018 Majkhel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5203235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 If those nipple cannons get 40k rules, I'm definitely buying one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5203259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 So awesome! [sigh...] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5203260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 If those nipple cannons get 40k rules, I'm definitely buying one. Â Sadly I can't see it happening. Like having our Relic Contemptors gain access to frag cannons again, I think it's niche for FW to bother with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5203262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 BA Leviathan: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Leviathan-Dreadnought-2018 Â BA Contemptor: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Contemptor-Dreadnought-2018 Â BA Mk IV Praetor: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Praetor-2018 Â BA Tartaros Praetor: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Terminator-Praetor-2018 Â Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/16/#findComment-5203357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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