Slips Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 A Tyranid Heirophant? No problem, Mephy to the Rescue with S10 Force Weapon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Okay so the terminator heads are added to the torsos. Not too happy about that myself. But otherwise Im loving them, they have just enough bling that they can be added to a DIY chapter and not look too much like BA (chaging the pauldron of course). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I don't like the look of the Termies with LCs but they do look cool with TH/SSs... Edit: love the Mephy art :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Termies are resculpts of the Space Hulk ones, thats why they come like that Lazy of GW. And disappointing for converters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Termies are resculpts of the Space Hulk ones, thats why they come like that Lazy of GW. And disappointing for converters Are you sure? They look a bit different to me. Inspired by SH certainly but I'm not sure about "resculpts". I also really like the Libby. The metal-then-resin Libby in Termie armour is one of my all time favourites so to get a similar model in plastic is great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouchyoldsailor Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 First list with new dex: 2000 points Dante Corbulo Astorath 10 D Co with 1 power sword and power fist 5 SG with banner D Co Dread with talons 5 scouts 4 snipers 1 missile launcher 10 Tac 1 plasgun 1 plascannon 5 Devs with 4 Las 5 Devs with 4 Las Stormtalon 9 assault squad with 2 melts sgt with power sword and free pod. Date and SG deep strike, D Co Astorath and D Co Dread come in Stormtalon, hovering to avoid crash and burn, Corbs and assault squad in pod. Small list, but should hit like a ton of bricks or suck at life, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Where did you find a Stormtalon? There ain't none in the dex. Nevermind, you mean Stormraven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 He meant raven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Quick one: With Exterminatus, what is limited edition about it? When the paper back comes out will it still have everything? Or is it worth picking up now? EDIT: Also, that Librarian is much nicer than I thought originally with the new online store pics! Deffo be picking one up eventually to put a beak onto :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Hardback is limited. I prefer hardback. Doesn't break as fast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 got my codex. After a quick read through, our slots seem kinda crowded. I'm going to have to get my head wrapped around the idea of multiple detachments (haven't played a game of 7th ed yet) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 got my codex. After a quick read through, our slots seem kinda crowded. I'm going to have to get my head wrapped around the idea of multiple detachments (haven't played a game of 7th ed yet) I've been doing just that these last few days (with the help of the honourable brothers in this very thread). It's really very simple and logical when you get your head around it, but I think there are solid lists you can make with a single detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 got my codex. After a quick read through, our slots seem kinda crowded. I'm going to have to get my head wrapped around the idea of multiple detachments (haven't played a game of 7th ed yet) I've been doing just that these last few days (with the help of the honourable brothers in this very thread). It's really very simple and logical when you get your head around it, but I think there are solid lists you can make with a single detachment. yeah, no doubt. But for my first few lists with the new codex, I want to rebuild some of my lists from the previous dex. Just try them out and see where the power shift is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Hardback is limited. I prefer hardback. Doesn't break as fast. So all of the content will be in the soft version? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yes the softcover content is identical Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 epub preview shows a substantial Flesh Tearers force all on 32mm bases and constructed largely out of new models. Indicates an imminent supplement? Looks like a lot of work just for a few photos in a campaign book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 It was done by the hobby team. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Why an imminent supplement? This book IS the supplement, it's three BA ánd a Necron-supplement in one. The 64-page rulebook includes:- 8 new missions based on the events of the narrative book.- 18 new datasheets for the Blood Angels 1st and 2nd Companies, Flesh Tearers, and the Necrons of the Mephrit Dynasty. That’s the equivalent of four Codex Supplements in one book!- new warlord traits, relics and force organisation charts for all four armies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The problem with PA hordes, although they could be a struggle for many, was their lack of mobility. I say was, because BA jump packs efficiently cover that problem now. Top that off with 2+ and / or FNP and you're all good. It just requires a more patient approach I suppose. The other thing to remember is that even an army mainly with jump packs can (and probably should) still include some pod squads for alpha strikes. Whilst AP2 has certainly increased over the course of 6th edition, it usually tends to be focussed on a small number of units (except perhaps Eldar). This means that if you can use your alpha strike units to target your opponent's Wraithknights, Centurions, Vindicators etc early on, it will greatly increase the survivability of our SG and DC as they close to striking distance. The irony is that the best antidote to AP2 units is some of our own and I can see grav bike squads or allied Centurions riding in our FA drop pods as being critical to taking out key threats early on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The rest of the preorders are up. http://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Warhammer-40-000?N=102282+4294967192&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=phl&view=table Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I can see grav bike squads or allied Centurions riding in our FA drop pods as being critical to taking out key threats early on.Bike squads and Centurions in drop pods? o_O The rest of the preorders are up. http://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Warhammer-40-000?N=102282+4294967192&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=phl&view=table You were ninja'd previous page dude! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardParty Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Finished reading through 94 pages of adrenaline pumping updates. I really like the return of 5th Ed style Furious Charge, which is enhanced by the priests' WS bonus - thats actually better than what we had! I'm a little bummed to lose the bubble of FNP. Like others have mentioned, we don't have a lot of efficient delivery mechanisms - bubble FNP was a nice survivability bump that seems like a good trade-off for reliable delivery. Priests being full HQ choices now limits overall FNP coverage (and I had like 5 custom priests done up ). I'll also echo others that have concerns about dreads in a BA list. It seems like GW is determined to make these awesome models extremely limited in practical utility and application. Dreads seem like they would really benefit from having Rampage and Moves Through Cover built in to the unit type. They really suffer from lack of attacks, mobility issues that don't have synergy with speed and pace the BA want to have, I don't know. Overall though i'd say the changes definitely leave us better off, and it's nice to see the resurgence of this proud chapter! I'm planning to do a Ward's Last Hurrah list this weekend with my buddy using all the crazy over the top units one more time before they go away forever - one last change from deep strike from my VAS, one last Corbs tanking wounds on a crazy 2+ FNP, one last change for my lovely Reclusiarch! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You know, if there is a formation/detachment in the Exterminatus book that lets me take 1 HQ and 3-5 Fast Attack with no Troop tax, THAT would get used. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I would be very surprised if we didn't get a detachment for at least an assault company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 35£ for 5 Terminators is nuts. And I bet if you play a successor chapter you'll have to file off a lot of the nice ornaments because a terminator of a successor chapter would not have the chapter symbol of the parent chapter on his armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/94/#findComment-3888243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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