Kriegriss Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 it just doesn't seem bulky enough for me I think it should have a more slab like aperance. If you have seen the cover art for the hardback book titanicus that is more so what I envision a battle titan after all a warlord is not a light or scout class titan it's a main battle engine or "Ship of the Line" size titan it should not look lithe and nimble it should be a big boxy beast covered in ablative like slabs of metal and crenalated gun platforms and the like more akin to a walking fortification then a skinny knightesque wimp mobile with all its ball joints and servos out in the open waiting for the voids to fail it also needs room inside for real bridge and stuff in all the fluff once you get bigger then a reaver they have actual bridges and ammo storage inside that thing looks like a soccer player showing up to play for the Detroit Lions defensive line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 it just doesn't seem bulky enough for me I think it should have a more slab like aperance. If you have seen the cover art for the hardback book titanicus that is more so what I envision a battle titan after all a warlord is not a light or scout class titan it's a main battle engine or "Ship of the Line" size titan it should not look lithe and nimble it should be a big boxy beast covered in ablative like slabs of metal and crenalated gun platforms and the like more akin to a walking fortification then a skinny knightesque wimp mobile with all its ball joints and servos out in the open waiting for the voids to fail it also needs room inside for real bridge and stuff in all the fluff once you get bigger then a reaver they have actual bridges and ammo storage inside that thing looks like a soccer player showing up to play for the Detroit Lions defensive line Idk, soccer players are pretty vicious. They bite each other's ears off, fake injuries, and their fans draw blood :P I think that this one is one of the lighter weight warlord Titans, more shooty then tanky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I believe the picture you are referring to, Kriegriss, had Lucius-pattern titans on it. Those were much like the now discontinued Lucius-pattern Warhound - blocky and looked like it was built like a brick house. Reminiscent, imho, of modern battle-tanks like the M1 Abrams, and the Challenger II. The new titan is of a different pattern (Mars) and as such fits a certain aesthetic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I have a feeling that this one is that pattern that starts with a D...can't quite remember the name. While I love the boxy Lucius pattern, this one is quite pleasing as well. you mean Deathbringer? via ForgeWorld, HH: Extermination: In terms of the heaviest Titan units, it is not believed the Legio Fureans possessed any Imperator-class Titans or their analogues, although it did utilise at least five adapted "Deathbringer" Warlords, which served as the Legio 's heaviest assault units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I have a feeling that this one is that pattern that starts with a D...can't quite remember the name. While I love the boxy Lucius pattern, this one is quite pleasing as well. you mean Deathbringer? via ForgeWorld, HH: Extermination: In terms of the heaviest Titan units, it is not believed the Legio Fureans possessed any Imperator-class Titans or their analogues, although it did utilise at least five adapted "Deathbringer" Warlords, which served as the Legio 's heaviest assault units. Actually I found it, it is the Night Gaunt pattern. At least that's what I think it will be named. That pattern has been popping up in the books lately to my knowledge. It would be sad to see it called Nemesis as I feel that sounds way too grey knight-y. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zedmeister Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I have a feeling that this one is that pattern that starts with a D...can't quite remember the name. While I love the boxy Lucius pattern, this one is quite pleasing as well. you mean Deathbringer? via ForgeWorld, HH: Extermination: In terms of the heaviest Titan units, it is not believed the Legio Fureans possessed any Imperator-class Titans or their analogues, although it did utilise at least five adapted "Deathbringer" Warlords, which served as the Legio 's heaviest assault units. Actually I found it, it is the Night Gaunt pattern. At least that's what I think it will be named. That pattern has been popping up in the books lately to my knowledge. It would be sad to see it called Nemesis as I feel that sounds way too grey knight-y. Night Gaunt and Nemesis (and Eclipse) are a type of Warlord Titan in the same way that the Deathbringer is. Pattern is more for the name of the Forgeworld the manufactured it - Mars, Lucius, Metalicus, etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think we need to be careful in assuming that the image is representative of the finished Warlord model. Looking at the picture, plating on the groin and sides of the torso seem to be identical to those found on FW's Cerastus knights - the head may even be a photoshopped Knight helm. I think that the image has been assembled from a work in progress Warlord, utilizing photoshop to create an impression of what the finished product will look like - similar to how we've had mock-ups of the Stormhammer & Archmagos on Abeyant in HH books before the models were actually finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Where are the straws and bulmers bottles? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Ohhhh that makes much more sense. There's so many titans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm sorry but that's actually really disappointing if it's really what we're getting for a Warlord Titan. (Plus, didn't realise they don't do the Lucius Warhound any more, that really makes me sad). You can go on about 'Mars Pattern' this and 'throwback to this model' that, but that doesn't stop that picture just being a bigger Knight. Imperius Dictatio is the definitive Warlord Titan, that thing just doesn't measure up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedobren Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 I wonder how they think to sell a thing like that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tharand Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 If the warlord turns out to be real then I must immediately own it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm sorry but that's actually really disappointing if it's really what we're getting for a Warlord Titan. (Plus, didn't realise they don't do the Lucius Warhound any more, that really makes me sad). You can go on about 'Mars Pattern' this and 'throwback to this model' that, but that doesn't stop that picture just being a bigger Knight. Imperius Dictatio is the definitive Warlord Titan, that thing just doesn't measure up. To be fair, the old Mars-pattern titans were pretty similar to the old knight paladins, only bigger, so it makes sense that the two would look similar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm sorry but that's actually really disappointing if it's really what we're getting for a Warlord Titan. (Plus, didn't realise they don't do the Lucius Warhound any more, that really makes me sad). You can go on about 'Mars Pattern' this and 'throwback to this model' that, but that doesn't stop that picture just being a bigger Knight. Imperius Dictatio is the definitive Warlord Titan, that thing just doesn't measure up.To be fair, the old Mars-pattern titans were pretty similar to the old knight paladins, only bigger, so it makes sense that the two would look similar. Then quite frankly, they should've left the 'Mars pattern' Warlord a relic of the 80s. For at least 20-odd years now (as long as I've been in the hobby) the Imperius Dictatio Warlord has been the Warlord, the go-to look for Imperial Titans and a true icon of the setting. To deliver what could just be a photoshopped and enlarged Knight instead of one of the most iconic 'Imperial' images in the entire setting cannot really be anything other than a disappointment to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I prefer the lucius pattern to Mars . It is more blocky and square and imperial. Let the xenos take all of the curved lines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tharand Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Personally I've always preferred the Mars pattern titans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think considering that the Warlord is probably aimed more towards 30k gamers, considering the scale of the battles of the Heresy, the Mars pattern makes more sense - whilst the blocky, gothic aesthetic of the Lucius is an archetype of the backwards, technologically stagnant 40k Imperium, the looks of the Mars pattern suit the design of much of the Heresy-era models much better. Plus considering the Reaver is Mars pattern, having the 3 Titan classes in different patterns would have far less cohesion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think considering that the Warlord is probably aimed more towards 30k gamers, considering the scale of the battles of the Heresy, the Mars pattern makes more sense - whilst the blocky, gothic aesthetic of the Lucius is an archetype of the backwards, technologically stagnant 40k Imperium, the looks of the Mars pattern suit the design of much of the Heresy-era models much better. Plus considering the Reaver is Mars pattern, having the 3 Titan classes in different patterns would have far less cohesion. Lol, when have the AdMech ever been about cohesion? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Well, I was mainly talking about FW's product design Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Looks like I'm not purchasing any resin for a while, I always promised myself I'd get one and now I have to Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Well, I was wrong: http://i.imgur.com/9BusLBF.jpg If this costs less than £1,000, I'll be surprised I was gonna post my composite over here before bed last night, but I forgot and went to sleep. As for the price? Doesn't really matter because I can't even afford a War Hound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Well, I was wrong: http://i.imgur.com/9BusLBF.jpg If this costs less than £1,000, I'll be surprised I was gonna post my composite over here before bed last night, but I forgot and went to sleep. As for the price? Doesn't really matter because I can't even afford a War Hound. What do you mean 'Can't afford'? You have 2 Lungs, 2 Kidneys, yet to have a first born (afaik), and havent signed onto this not-sketchy-at-all cult Support group form! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Tempest at last! One step closer to seeing FW's take on the Shadow Crusade (I think that will be book VI?). With regards to the Warlord Titan... The aesthetics fit the 30K era - Mankind in a second golden age of sorts, brought on by the Emperor's Great Crusade. I've said elsewhere that the 30K era is the Imperium (and Mankind) at its zenith in power. The Imperium of the 40K era is an old man by comparison, worn down by a hundred centuries of unending war both internal and external. It makes sense that the Warlords of the 30K era look more polished. The 40K era Warlords - the "boxy" design that so many of us know and love - could be the result of 10,000 years of technological stagnation/regression. All those shiny, curvy plates eventually got replaced by sheets of ablative armor plating, crude but effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I wonder if they will produce the close combat head for it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Well, I was wrong: http://i.imgur.com/9BusLBF.jpg If this costs less than £1,000, I'll be surprised I was gonna post my composite over here before bed last night, but I forgot and went to sleep. As for the price? Doesn't really matter because I can't even afford a War Hound. What do you mean 'Can't afford'? You have 2 Lungs, 2 Kidneys, yet to have a first born (afaik), and havent singed onto this not-sketchy-at-all cult Support group form! How many souls do you think you're worth...Jack Sparrow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/3/#findComment-4009639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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