Gab Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Lest we forget, everything else we should be getting with Book 5. We're playing with a lot of these already thanks to web/experimental rules, but they're all really borrowed from Tempest. Legiones Astartes Xiphon Interceptor Deredeo Dreadnought Primus Redoubt Praevian/Delegatus Consuls Mechanicum Scyllax Guardian-automata Covenant Thanatar-Calix Siege Automata Warlord Titan Ultramarines Guilliman Word Bearers Samus Mhara Gal On top of which, we should be getting Planetary Defense Force rules. We don't have details yet, but we can definitely count on several Ultramarines units/characters appearing; I saw mentioned in another thread that Telemechrus, Remus Ventanus, and a squad called the Invictus Suzerain were hinted at during the weekender. Plenty to be excited about. Thanks for making this thread more about the book rather than a titan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hopefully this means we'll be getting an updated Crusades Army List/Legion List book soon-ish that might fix some of the issues up and bring everything into line.... I would love forgeworld even more if they did this. There is quite a bit in the book that needs fixing. I wonder what character they'll do for word bearers and ultramarines. For ultras they might go down the path if imperial fists and their special character will be future chapter masters. For word bearers argel tal would be cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hopefully this means we'll be getting an updated Crusades Army List/Legion List book soon-ish that might fix some of the issues up and bring everything into line.... I would love forgeworld even more if they did this. There is quite a bit in the book that needs fixing. I wonder what character they'll do for word bearers and ultramarines. For ultras they might go down the path if imperial fists and their special character will be future chapter masters. For word bearers argel tal would be cool. Need... Thiel... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hopefully this means we'll be getting an updated Crusades Army List/Legion List book soon-ish that might fix some of the issues up and bring everything into line.... I would love forgeworld even more if they did this. There is quite a bit in the book that needs fixing. I wonder what character they'll do for word bearers and ultramarines. For ultras they might go down the path if imperial fists and their special character will be future chapter masters. For word bearers argel tal would be cool. Need... Thiel... After hearing so much about this thiel guy I looked him up on the lexicanum. He's pretty damn cool. I think he's the first ultramarine I actually like. I want him. I do have to admit the ultramarine are starting to grow on me. I need to read some of the heresy books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hopefully this means we'll be getting an updated Crusades Army List/Legion List book soon-ish that might fix some of the issues up and bring everything into line.... I would love forgeworld even more if they did this. There is quite a bit in the book that needs fixing. I wonder what character they'll do for word bearers and ultramarines. For ultras they might go down the path if imperial fists and their special character will be future chapter masters. For word bearers argel tal would be cool. Need... Thiel... After hearing so much about this thiel guy I looked him up on the lexicanum. He's pretty damn cool. I think he's the first ultramarine I actually like. I want him. I do have to admit the ultramarine are starting to grow on me. I need to read some of the heresy books. Welcome aboard! Liking every Legion (to an extent, I utterly hate the WB, for example) is a common symptom of a Heresy-ite. ...part of the ship...part of the crew.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hopefully this means we'll be getting an updated Crusades Army List/Legion List book soon-ish that might fix some of the issues up and bring everything into line.... I would love forgeworld even more if they did this. There is quite a bit in the book that needs fixing. I wonder what character they'll do for word bearers and ultramarines. For ultras they might go down the path if imperial fists and their special character will be future chapter masters. For word bearers argel tal would be cool. Need... Thiel... After hearing so much about this thiel guy I looked him up on the lexicanum. He's pretty damn cool. I think he's the first ultramarine I actually like. I want him. I do have to admit the ultramarine are starting to grow on me. I need to read some of the heresy books. Between KNF and Censure I'm absolutely in love with him Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I found some of the images of the book on "bell of lost souls" if the images on the website are legit, then this book looks pretty promising Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I found some of the images of the book on "bell of lost souls" if the images on the website are legit, then this book looks pretty promising What, you mean these images? http://belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/blogger-image-1793789308.jpg http://belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/blogger-image-436704006.jpg http://www.spikeybitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/blogger-image-9394549541.jpg http://belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/blogger-image-897950723.jpg http://belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/blogger-image-1790338862.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 These Heresy era Ultramarines are some of the best looking designs FW has delivered! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 @Olis yep those ones! hahahaha they look sooo epic! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 That's from the weekender isn't it? The link led me to bols but on the page there was nothing. Though they showed the old rules for the warlord Titan damn that thing is scary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 That's from the weekender isn't it? The link led me to bols but on the page there was nothing. Though they showed the old rules for the warlord Titan damn that thing is scary. Do tell! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 The old rules, from Apocalypse (4th Edition): 2500 points 2 arm weapons and 2 carapace weapons - generally the same options as the current Reaver 6 void shields 27 hull points at 14/14/13 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 That's from the weekender isn't it? The link led me to bols but on the page there was nothing. Though they showed the old rules for the warlord Titan damn that thing is scary. Do tell! Basically, this page. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I've only played one game with a titan, i want to play an epic scale apoc 30k game soooooo bad! I can imagine it now, multiple titans marching across the board, a warlord titan stomping along.....ahhhhh what a nice game that would be! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hmmm, I thought you guys had seen the rules for the new one... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 How hard is it to kill a reaver titan? I have never played against one of those lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedobren Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 How do void shields works? Are they like hitponts without damage rolls? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 How hard is it to kill a reaver titan? I have never played against one of those lol I faced a Reaver with two Warhounds, once (plus attending armies). Iirc he killed one Warhound and fought the other to a stand still. That was back in early 6th edition though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 See I'd love to play in a 30k apoc level game like that, where titans are having their own battles as massive amounts of troops are clashing below....I read the horus heresy novels way too much lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 How do void shields works? Are they like hitponts without damage rolls? AV 12 shields that you must destroy before the actual model. Can regenerate at the end of the turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedobren Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 Damn so you will have to destroy at least 6 of them on a warlord. I guess 2 warlords can actually stand up against a grand batallion then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Because Void Shields are only AV12, it's good practice to bury Titans in moderate strength weaponry first - autocannons, krak missiles, anything with rending or auto-glance, etc. Once the shields are down, start pounding them with S9-SD shots. There's only a 1/3 chance of an overloaded shield being repaired, so it gets easier after the first salvo. EDIT: Easier is a relative term. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I concur. Soften him up and then lay on the real hurt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedobren Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 uhmm do you think they'll get AA weapons? if not i think 2 titans alone would be very vulnerable to fire raptors and Lightnings (also they will be able to reach the titan back easily), i mean at 2500 points you can play like 12 of them! i guess a thing like 2 heavy weapons Volkite culverins heavy support team could take down their shields Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306152-book-5-tempest-announced/page/7/#findComment-4013627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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