Sigismund229 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 People, I hve a question: do you think that the entire Crimson Lions legion should be at Terra? My thought was that the majority of the legion could be further north still heading for Terra or whatever and the force present on Terra was picked by Hec to rush in order to arrive at Terra in time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) Well Sigi, you threw the gauntlet down.+++++From above, this must look like a remembrancer’s fevered imaginings of strife. The battle is too surely chaotic to be real, the scenario so absurd as to be beyond even the most deranged mind. That Mars, greatest of all Forge Worlds, seat of the revered Mechanicus, could be engulfed in rebellion. A nightmare believable only in the dreaming, dispelled as soon as the dreamer wakes.Yet my own senses tell me that this is not so. I see the bodies of my brothers and cousins, brought down by the murderous bolts of Arc Rifles. The screeching that signals a Rustwalker attack is inescapable with my enhanced hearing. I feel the recoil of my volkite as I reduce a Skitarius to glowing fragments. And as I knock a power sword aside with my gun, drawing my gladius to run it through my attacker's head, it goes beyond the senses. My instincts as a warrior tell me that, against all reason, these are my enemies.So why do I record this? As a statement of defiance, I suppose. We are not paralysed by disbelief and dismay, as the traitors hoped. Mars will not be wrested from the hands of the Emperor. Those who thought us weak will rue the way they have underestimated us.This then, is for you. You, who disparaged us all those years and refused to understand the true nature of strength. Berserkers, Grave Stalkers, Warbringers, Drowned Men. Arrogance and ignorance are invariably punished. Once we have purged Mars, you will taste our wrath.And you, once our dearest brothers. The Harbingers, as you name yourselves. I do not know which sickens me more, that you murdered our brothers or your belief that we would follow you into this treachery. You, of all the traitors, will reap the whirlwind. And mark this: we will deliver your punishment. You and your followers were always too quick to paint us as diplomats and nothing more. The truth was always there in the warcry that springs from a hundred thousand vox-grilles.The Emperor strikes. We are his sword.- Brother Seleucus of the Halcyon Wardens, later the second Commander of the Crimson Crusaders (on the middle left, with the volkite) Edited October 8, 2016 by bluntblade Apothecary Meros and ~Drakzilla~ 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 People, I hve a question: do you think that the entire Crimson Lions legion should be at Terra? My thought was that the majority of the legion could be further north still heading for Terra or whatever and the force present on Terra was picked by Hec to rush in order to arrive at Terra in time All the 'serkers will be there, hellishly beefed up with Daemon Rak in tow, so I'd have no qualms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I would just say yes because since we we have almost 30 years opposed to 7 the traitors will be farther fallen and have more gifts of chaos and likely more daemons and dark tech. Our siege will make the HH's look positively quaint. Apothecary Meros 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 As rhedd said it. The moment the siege occurs, all powers are needed. And then the countercursade launches from terra driving the forces of chaos back to hell. And we have alex who would have forseen the siege. Not just by divination but by sheer tactical reasons as the traitors push them back to earth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 As a reminder, we are going to have four books: Insurrection, Corruption, Reformation, and Absolution. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Whoops. Sorry for spreading false info then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 Whoops. Sorry for spreading false info then. It's alright. The overall outline hasn't come up in conversation since our first attempt at it last year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Shall the Predators take the Ghost Walkers place in the (I believe it whas) second book or do we want to feature another one instead? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 At this point, the only outline I'm confident of is Insurrection. In October, we'll make a new outline of Book 2, now that we have the Predators and Grifft wants to push back the Grave Stalkers. When we have Corruption's outline established, then I'll revise the latter two accordingly. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Meros Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 As a reminder, we are going to have four books: Insurrection, Corruption, Reformation, and Absolution. Are these four books like Horus Heresy novels or like the Forgeworld rulebooks? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 As a reminder, we are going to have four books: Insurrection, Corruption, Reformation, and Absolution. Are these four books like Horus Heresy novels or like the Forgeworld rulebooks? Rulebooks. I've put no theoretical limit on the number of novels we could write. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Meros will write a great crusade story series with 5000 pages depicting the life of a screw on the board toilet of the wardens flagship. It will be so damn cool. His 2nd series will depict a screw on the crimaon lions flagship. All togheter vuilt an universe were the last depicts the corrupted screw on a chaos flagship. The personal toilet for the big beasts. I am so damn looking forwrd to it^^ Apothecary Meros, simison and Kelborn 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Meros Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 If I may, I'll contribute what I can to the rulebooks, and of course I'll be writing fanfiction for the next 10,000 years so you can count on me for that. Aye, Mikhal. It'll be a fine series. Those toilet screws have so much potential for a thrilling novel. MikhalLeNoir 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I'm still calling dibs on Dragon's Flight and Cadian Gate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Had an idea for a Chaos unit in the late insurrection. I thought that Alexos could combine his knowledge of Chaos with Poseko's knowledge of sm biology to create "hatched" gal-vorbak or sm, who lack the training and such that make sm really dangerous but make up for it with the ferocity they get from being gal-vorbak and their numbers. Or potentially the traitor legions could start with that and then refine it to produce space marines with all the muscle memories of their training implanted into them pyschicly but little capacity for independent thought. Apothecary Meros 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Meros Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) That reminds me of Red Fury, the third Blood Angels book, in which an army of failed Blood Angel clones mistakenly created by a Sanguinary Priest assault the fortress monastery. That occurred based off knowledge that Corax used cloning to produce marines after his grevious losses on Isstvan, with technology granted to him by the Emperor. If perhaps instead, one of your traitor legions was able to steal this technology, or even try and replicate what the Emperor has like the Sanguinary Priest did, they'd have a means of producing vast armies of clones. Edited August 20, 2016 by Apothecary Meros Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 As far as i know Aledos Travier uses cloning to increase his numbers. I read the number of 400000 Eagle Warriors.at the siege of terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Say what? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Uhmm ... What? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 That's, on first impression, a bonkers number of Legionaries, clones or not Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Even for cloning, thats a pretty insane amount of Legionnaires. Consider that, in the cannon, at the Siege of Terra, all Traitor Legions Combined probably barely reached that number of Marines Present. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Waaaaay too many. Unless they're literally blinkable to death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Meat shields and canon fodder = not quite happy with it, but ok "fully" Astartes = hec, no way oO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 There's still a lot of traitor Army who can be used as cannon fodder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/126/#findComment-4473970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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