Guiltysparc Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Well the drop pod's effect is null since you have a better 4++ on the Levi. The Levi died pretty hard to las rapiers, though I imagine quad mortars would strip it down quick. It can really hurt a knight in cc, but it'll get destroyed in the process. Honestly you could just outflank it with Javelins and hurt it too. The effect of the drop pod is transport/placement prodiving a turn 1 threat moreso than the cover save it grants, unless i am misunderstanding your point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4311935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The Drop Pod, unlike for Infantry Squads who now get booted out (only the basic one), the Leviathan can remain inside this one on arrival and essentially gain 3 Av12 Ablative Hull Points to help weather the storm before getting to charge in. It wont help that much but every little bit counts. Raktra, Brofist and Flint13 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4311944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Dude, that's like three tiny void shields. Those extra 3 AVhp are awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4311954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 4 tiny HP, effectively; it has the Shrouded as well on the turn it comes down. Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4311962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 That's better to keep it in if you decide to run twin DCCWs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4311967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Always keep your leviathan wrapped. Strong life advice there :D Hesh Kadesh and librisrouge 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4311983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Just stay away from Borax and pointed scrimshawed bones/beheadings. Have chest assault cannons been considered for our BA brethren? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4311986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yes, they have! you should see the BA Threads :P To summarize "ASSAULT CANNONS ON ALL THE THINGS!" helterskelter, librisrouge and Balthamal 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4311988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 That is pretty much what I've been eyeing up for my Shattered Legion other half... Feels dirty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4312043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yes, they have! you should see the BA Threads To summarize "ASSAULT CANNONS ON ALL THE THINGS!" The only thing to cause a slight break was the reminder that assault cannons cost +5 points over and above the cost to add a heavy flamer for things like pintle mounts. And that was just for them to laugh at it before going back to hammering the "Add to Cart" button for Rotor Cannons on FW's webstore Slips, Charlo and Hesh Kadesh 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4312089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Miniwargaming just released a batrep on youtube, Ultras v Alpha Legion. It perfectly illustrates why super high priced walkers like this, that aren't a super heavy/MC/gargantuan aren't a good idea... :-( Edited March 4, 2016 by Ishagu Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4326355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 That wont stop me from using one in the slightest. Kastor Krieg, BLACK BLΠFLY and Raktra 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4326359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Miniwargaming just released a batrep on youtube, Ultras v Alpha Legion. It perfectly illustrates why super high priced walkers like this, that aren't a super heavy/MC/gargantuan aren't a good idea... :-( I'm not sure that a footslogging double dakka leviathan really shows off the unit's tactical potential. Charlo, Brofist and caladancid 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4326370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Miniwargaming are hardly paragons of tactics. Balthamal, ThatOneMarshal, Brofist and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4326393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Miniwargaming just released a batrep on youtube, Ultras v Alpha Legion. It perfectly illustrates why super high priced walkers like this, that aren't a super heavy/MC/gargantuan aren't a good idea... :-( I'm not sure that a footslogging double dakka leviathan really shows off the unit's tactical potential. Yeah this is exactly what I thought also. That video reinforced what I thought was already a must-do, put those things in a DDP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 One battle report's nowt, anyways. I've seen one where a battlesuit commander missed every shot with a twin-linked burst cannon three turns straight, doesn't mean it's a poor choice of shooting unit. Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Miniwargaming just released a batrep on youtube, Ultras v Alpha Legion. It perfectly illustrates why super high priced walkers like this, that aren't a super heavy/MC/gargantuan aren't a good idea... :-( I'm not sure that a footslogging double dakka leviathan really shows off the unit's tactical potential. Yeah this is exactly what I thought also. That video reinforced what I thought was already a must-do, put those things in a DDP. Exactly this. It essentially gives the Levi 3 more AV12 hp and shrouded on top of getting him close to his target. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Ran claw, drill, choom and phosphex today. Podded in. Managed to kill a knight, threw the carcass at eidolon in combat, it went nuclear, eidolon and retinue exploded. Autek Morr survived. Leviathan hunted down Morr and managed to kill him with phosphex after melta and choom failed :) Guiltysparc, Charlo, Kastor Krieg and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 2 on 2 or the EC allying pre turn? 01RTB01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 It was EC vs iron hands - my leviathan had a disaster and killed our own commander :D great cinematic moment and to be added to the fluff. helterskelter and Spinsanity 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 It's called friendly fire for a reason :D sharing is caring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak1508 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 In terms of models for the DDPs - is it possible to get away with plastic GW ones in order to avoid spending 64 GBP on the FW one? Sorry if I sound silly, but spending so much on the DP just feels a bit overpriced, considering that I could actually get another Levi for the same price (as one of many examples). Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I reckon if you up-armoured it somehow to make it look distinct, it should be fine. And I really hope so, as that's my plan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak1508 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Although getting the GW plastic one may definitely save money and time, I have found this article after poking around a little bit. It tells you how a guy made his own from scratch: http://santacruzwarhammer.blogspot.co.uk/2007/11/low-buck-drop-pods-that-dont-suck.html It will be a while before I can even get my hands on a Levi, but it may be a nice way to do some building of my own and perhaps save lots of money. Let me know what you think! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 You just saved me sixty pounds with that link! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/15/#findComment-4327547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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