Charlo Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I'm inclined to say the tanks are not as at a glance they'd be table legal and have multiple shades on. The fully black dudes are okay though. Obviously up to semper overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The4thHorseman Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I have a Dreadeo that has yet to see paint, 1 FW Contemptor and a B@C Dread and a Mk. IV Dread. Dreadnought Season Anyone? Provided all these conform to the Faction: BA 40k rules, then they are fair game to pledge to us for the ETL. The Deredeo's rules are found on the PDF, both Contemptors have their rules in Imperial Armour Apocalypse (note that the BaC one is fine but the FW will depend on what arms you have on it as we have some limitations on what we can/cannot take) and the Mk IV can be found in C:BA. (As always, I'm happy to help with points/advice/etc) Paint what you want to paint. Although some count-as is acceptable, if you really want to paint HH stuff pledge for the HH forum. In other words it's ok to have a green BA successor but it's not OK having Dark Angels counting as Blood Angels. Subtle difference but an important one nevertheless. Ah so I can't paint the tactical squad I plan to paint as Imperial Fists and pledge them for Blood Angels? It's a kind of side project I have planned and they're already built (which takes me ages in itself!) To be honest, this swings both ways as there are no IF Troop models. For example, Lysander couldn't be pledged but if it was the base model for a Captain for your Successor Chapter, was converted (mainly the removal of iconography I guess) and painted differently (or even in IF colours if your Successor used those), then it would be OK. If you were painting yellow Blood Angels, then this squad would be OK. If you are going the whole hog with IF emblems, etc, then by Semper's above definition it wouldn't. Paint what you want to paint. Although some count-as is acceptable, if you really want to paint HH stuff pledge for the HH forum. In other words it's ok to have a green BA successor but it's not OK having Dark Angels counting as Blood Angels. Subtle difference but an important one nevertheless. How does this relate to Cataphracii as normal shooty termies? EDC It's another tricky one. For example, Deathwing Knights would be Dark Angels, but converted appropriately could fulfill either one of our TDA unit options. In 40k, (before this weekend anyway), many folks used Cataphractii and Tartaros Terminators as regular ones (i.e. just a different pattern of Indomitus if you will). Provided they marry up correctly (i.e. no grenade harness, etc) then I don't see how they would be a problem to run as regular Terminators and thus, pledge as. Well there is now a Cataphractii Terminator Squad and Cataphractii Terminator Captain available as Data Entries in the New AoD Supplement with their own Point costs and Weapon Options. Can we Get a Ruleing on being able to Use those entries for those Models for BA? Also the Contemptor Entry? I know the IA2 has a BA Contemptor and a Better Weapon Selection General Contemptor, I'd rather just get a ruling on all the B@C Unit Entries incase somone doesn't have IA2 as an availablility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 To avoid a quote wall.... Rules are if we can't take it - we can't use it. It has to be a legal selection for Faction: BA. So, unless you point them as count as normal Termiantors (of which they are basically identical) then you can't use them, but I' msure this will be mostly acceptable. Same with the contemptor - need to use the IA2 rules & points, not the C:SM ones. Jolemai can help with IA2 points :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 Cataphractii Terminators and CTDA Captains are options for the following ETL Factions: Age of Darkness and Codex (following the Angels of Death Supplement for Codex Space Marines). ETL Faction Blood Angels has access to Terminator Squads and Captains in TDA. I see no problem in pledging them for us using the points in our Codex and I'm pretty sure there are many other Frater who will want to do the same for their army. The Contemptor Dreadnought which has rules in the Angels of Death Supplement can be pledged by the ETL Faction Codex only. For everyone else (Age of Darkness, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Chaos), they use the rules from where they are found. In this case, any Contemptor Dreadnought we pledge gets it's points from Imperial Armour Apocalypse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Why would you ever field them as codex cataphracts? Field them as BA termies which are 5pts more expensive each. I mean, if you want to pledge them, then do so, just use BA rules. You gain points and lose nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 A quick look at the BaC box last week saw the following 40k units that could be pledged: TDA Captain Chaplain Three Tactical Squads Contemptor Dreadnought Terminator Squad (or Squad Alphaeus if you wanted the heavy flamer) I fail to see how this has changed because GW gave Codex Space Marines some cool new rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mapple Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 You mean 3 sternguard squads? They're veterans with 2 attacks each in Betrayal at Calth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threefiddy Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Do we have a rough idea of when the ETL might start and is it the opening 30 days in which you must make your first pledge? Due to go on holiday for couple weeks so don't want to miss the window. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Do we have a rough idea of when the ETL might start and is it the opening 30 days in which you must make your first pledge? Due to go on holiday for couple weeks so don't want to miss the window. Peace. Most likely either the 1st or 15th May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Personally I'm hoping for the 15th, only because May is busy for me and it'd give me a tint bit of breathing space to put to bed a number of un-hobby related things before the hobby frenzy begins! EDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threefiddy Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Ah ok cool! I think last year the first month you had to have the first pledge so it should be the same? In either case I have a week or two prior on both dates to get he first vow in. Thanks again Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I'm also hoping for the 15th because I'm away from next week until 13th May! At least I've managed to prepare a few things for the ETL beforehand. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moritan Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Hey guys! I plan to pledge a couple squads of my Stormcast Marines to the competition. Question though, do I get more points since they're bigger than standard marines? http://i.imgur.com/Ld2io1F.jpg 5 man Devastator Squad with 4 missile launchers. Veteran Sergeant with thunder hammer. http://i.imgur.com/rTmN625.jpg 5 man Tactical Squad with heavy flamer. Veteran Sergeant with combi-flamer and power axe. http://i.imgur.com/pv2yCUY.jpg 5 man Vanguard Squad with lightening claws. Veteran Sergeant equipped with plasma pistol and power fist. http://i.imgur.com/ySOOVkd.jpg 5 man Command Squad. 3 marines with storm shields and thunder hammers. Company champion and Apothecary. http://i.imgur.com/tIrsTiB.jpg Contemptor Dreadnought armed with giant sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 You do not. But my GOD they are beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Damn. Loving that Contemptor! EDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 They are BIG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Like a Terminator standing up properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Man, those larger marines look REALLLY nice. Helmets actually look pretty good and their posing is very dynamic and epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 You should send pics of those off to GW when they're done, I'd be very surprised if they didn't get published in White Dwarf and / or Visions (as long as you didn't use any 3rd party bits!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moritan Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 They are BIG! They really are. http://i.imgur.com/4qxvM16.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 They are BIG! They really are. http://i.imgur.com/4qxvM16.jpg "Out of my way, Halfling!" EDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I've gotten so much Heresy stuff to paint. "Yes Semper.... This is my second blood angel successor. The Death......... Guard......... " Don't worry though - still a boat load of terminators to paint for the BA ETL! Maximise those overcosted units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I've gotten so much Heresy stuff to paint. "Yes Semper.... This is my second blood angel successor. The Death......... Guard......... " Don't worry though - still a boat load of terminators to paint for the BA ETL! Maximise those overcosted units. True dat! I've got 20 termies to paint up this year making up part of my 3k vow this year! EDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Been doing a bit of a clear up today and well... I have a lot of cool stuff for the ETL :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Sorry guys I am going to be rolling with them dirty traitors this year - I am too depressed staring at my 'grey' Legion when it should be Black Legion. As usual it will be a modest vow, probs starting with my failed Call of Chaos from a couple of years ago, so have seek solace at that Brothers Sanguine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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