Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 OK I come seeking advice ... As some of you might know my 1st and 2nd Companies are Germanic in influence. The 1st Company are known as the Gefallen Jäger (Fallen Hunters), a name they adopted when the elements of the fate of Caliban was told to them this name is not common knowledge to the rest of the Chapter its only upon induction to the 1st is the name revealed, to standard Brothers and the rest of the Imperium they are the Bladesworn. The original Master of the 27th's 1st Company swore vengeance on his traitorous Brothers, the Fallen Hunters like the Deathwing and 1st Company of the Angels of Vengeance are ruthless and relentless in their pursuit of the fallen willing to take on even the most suicidal mission. Although the Grand Cross will not throw is most elite veterans on a fools errand. http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k574/jetpaczx/1st_zpsbigsgxz6.jpg This will be the 1st Company Shoulder pad marking, it ties in the Teutonic Knights influence a little with the Black Cross. Good or bad? The 2nd Company will pursue their quarry with relentless determination, it was this that Seppel the first Knight Commander of the 2nd to name his company the Höllenhund (Hell Hounds). In ancient mythology on Terra one of the duties of these fearsome mythological beasts was to hunt for lost souls which given their duty it seems the suitable name. Each Grand Cross has come to rely heavily on these zealous warriors, its not unknown for the 2nd to be used as a forward scout force when the 10th Company are not available. The 2nd Company like other Unforgiven have the Black Knights although in the Blades of Alaric these are known as The Cerberus. Second Company Shoulder Pad marking. http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k574/jetpaczx/lg-Cerberus-Kerberos_zpshcmpbzbr.jpg Again whats your opinion? Oh I still need 3 more for my next secret project Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4380800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
egon1six Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Love everything!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4380855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 It love it. The marking of the 1st company fits real nice with your setting and combines the DA-sword nicely. You could paint the ornamental swords on the weapons/packs/gear yellow. I'm curious on how you are going to do your second company. The emblems looks awesome, but it's a great deal complexer than the sword of the 1st. Are you going to freehand the lions or do you have transfers at hand? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4380995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I would get the Hellhounds made as transfers :) I cant paint them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4381055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Love everything! Keep it up! Brun demands it! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4381260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epher Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Cerberus... That is great! Do you need more volunteers? I don't suppose that I can volunteer twice! I had a major design project that used the name Cerberus so I am very partial to the name. The black cross on red with the yellow sword? All killer and no filler! I cannot wait to see this stuff on the models! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4381622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Afraid not. Well the Hellhounds wont see much paint until I have the Demi Company, Vets, Command Squad, Chaplain and Knight Commander done But I do have an idea for the Hellhounds I am just hoping the Inner Circle doesnt cast me out as a Traitor :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4381624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Does it work? Or straight to cell 42 and do not pass go? http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k574/jetpaczx/IMG_20160509_185058_zpsw9qmefhg.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It's a wolf head so... yeah. No, doesn't work for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It looks awesome, but not really fitting. Is he one of the cerberus-guys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Yeah that was the idea :)... But I think as a whole the Hellhounds does not work for my Second Company. I could keep the ravenwing iconography and call them Avenging Blades which does fit :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 You could give it a try with the hounds, it's something original and it looks great. I'd vote for keeping the mask. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 You could draw or make winged dogs as iconography instead of the "wolf" mask... or with GS you can turn the wolf head into a lion head... Hellhounds is a great name for a company... shame to waste it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 You could draw or make winged dogs as iconography instead of the "wolf" mask... or with GS you can turn the wolf head into a lion head... Hellhounds is a great name for a company... shame to waste it... I simply dont have the GS skills needed to convert to lions :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epher Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I think the wolf mask and concept is really cool but I also think that it looks out of place on a Ravenwing bike. To tie the wolf theme together, you should have at least one other icon or transfer on the model. Have you considered doing away with the Ravenwing iconography all together or the tail feathers and wing fairings? Perhaps some more Space Wolf bits may help them look more like Hellhounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I don't like the bike. The name is great, the helmet is awesome, but the wings kill the vibe of hellhounds in my opinion. My suggestion would be, as epher said,do away with ravenwing iconography. Maybe buy some space marine bikes to save some bucks, and for plasma talons, I'm sure ebay has the goods. Either way, I'm a fan of the helmet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epher Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Here is a concept to try (it is on my list of things to do) make a green stuff press mold of the plasma talons. Master that and you can have lots of Black Knights or should Insay Hell Hounds! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4389963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I think the wing at the back was too much, hows this? http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k574/jetpaczx/IMG_20160509_225903_zpshphkhmou.jpg http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k574/jetpaczx/IMG_20160509_225920_zps4phz2ibe.jpg Is the fairing still too much? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4390005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epher Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I like it! I think the fairing in the front works. The removal of the rear dressing definitely sets it apart from the typical ravenwing bikers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4390018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It looks really good can't wait to see the paint Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4390035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenz Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I like the direction you're going in, but something about the wolf's head helmet just doesn't quite sit well. It's not so much that it's a SW helmet on a DA body, it's the actual head that I feel looks off. Though I'm at a loss for ideas right now. I do agree, he looks much better without the wing at the back. Regardless, he'll look awesome once he's painted up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4390072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I agree with Greenz, the Wolfs' head doesn't look like a helmet to me. The idea is sound(ish) but the plastic bit might be wrong. 2c Slacker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4390090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Well maybe its best to ditch the helmet, and the rear wing. Wait for the transfers and include more of the ravenwing elements as battle honours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4390093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenz Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 What about skull helms with wolf totems adorning the rides? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4390095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Wolf totems are not really Hellhound 'ish. I dont have the skill to make this work the way it should... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321458-a-blade-once-broken-is-reforged-terminator-scheme-redux/page/4/#findComment-4390097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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