Pyroclast91's Forge = Salamanders Primaris and Death Guard

[our_baz]

The idea is a sound one. This works from my perspective, don't forget the legions are huge much more than the 40K chapters. As such not all company's will adhere to the classic "Sallie doctrine". Certain company's will favour spear tip assaults (c.f. SoH), others armoured assaults (c.f. IH) others siege warfare (c.f IW), but you get my point. It's a nice idea run with it, I would say if you are going for an in your face combat doctrine c.f WE/SW, ( which as survivors of Istvaan you understand). Maybe a focus on assault troops and close quarters. Assaults, breachers, TDA, CC dreads, melta/flamer support squads, and tac squads with BP and chainsword (can't remember their name at mo). My ten pence anyway.

[Pyroclast91]

you make good points as always brother Baz. I know in 40k they've got a company for each sanctuary city. Do you know if the same applied during the crusade/ heresy era? I'm still working out details so I can write this up accordingly.

[Soldier of Dorn]

you make good points as always brother Baz. I know in 40k they've got a company for each sanctuary city. Do you know if the same applied during the crusade/ heresy era? I'm still working out details so I can write this up accordingly.

 

From Massacre:

 

 

The Salamanders Legion under Vulkan adopted a series of extensive reforms to its structure, the widest and most reaching of which was the organisation of the Legion into seven Realms each under the command of its Lord Protector, below which numerous line companies, each of around 120 Space Marines were formed. Aside from specialists, the Legion followed a simplified form of the Terran pattern for battlefield ranks, transiting in descending order of rank from captain to lieutenant to master sergeant, sergeant and Legionary.

 

It's said somewhere in the same article that the Realms are based on the seven sanctuary cities of Nocturne. There's a lot of great information about the Salamanders and the organization thereof, I'll put an info packet together tonight or tomorrow and PM it to you.

[Pyroclast91]

Thanks to the Psycho filling in the information I was missing I've been working on getting the backstory written I'll probably get it up I the next day or so depending how the writing mood strikes me. I'm pretty excited about this army and I can't wait for October to start painting it. in preparation Vulkan is getting a bath, getting Assembled, and undercoated tomorrow I'm trying to decide if I want to start with him or a Leviathan (that one I was planning on painting got put on the back burner just for that sort of thing) oooooh the choices. in other news I did put in some work on Talos today did some sculpting on his chest and shoulders.

 

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I'll be adding more flames this is just the first layer.

 

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I also put in some work on the base as I wanna try to make it look like mine and Bluebelly's knights just tore this predator apart.

 

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I'm really wishing I wouldn't have already painted the legs cuz I'm quite tempted to strip them chop them up and re pose them we'll see that's a big project and I've already got a lot coming up.

[bluntblade]

Keen to see your ideas rendered in plastic and paint

[Pyroclast91]

Thanks bluntblade I hope I don't disappoint :) I didn't get much actual hobby work done tonight as I just didn't have the time. However I've been working on on the fluff and I think I'll probably have a draft I'm happy with to post tomorrow. one thing I can tell you.... THERE WILL BE DREADNOUGHTS!!!!!!

 

This guy was started long ago and is about too have some serious work done.

 

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And then there's this fella who's going to get a full strip rebuild and repaint.

 

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crazy when I realize this little green ugly box dread was the model that got me back into the hobby 3 years ago. As well as the model that started the tradition of my better half buying me models for my birthday every year. The Dreadnought was followed by a knight the year after and a calth box last year. But Anywho only seems rite I do a better job on this fella so he's soaking In alcohol at the time of writing this. So time permitting several more dreads head to the chopping block to be readied for the Tale of 20 Hobbyists. Thanks for checking out my work I really appreciate everyone's input it really helps keep those forge fires going.

Edited September 21, 2016 by Pyroclast91

[our_baz]

That furiso dread looks darn interesting, what you going to do to him? Keep the updates coming I'm living the hobby through this site at the minute as I've been without a hobby space for 10 days...getting withdrawal symptoms.

[Pyroclast91]

Thanks Baz I'm sorry to hear that brother I know the feeling I hope you get it sorted out soon. The Furioso has had its legs chopped lengthened and reposed I'm gonna build them up a bit and give him some extra armour to bulk him out. I'm also going to give him the full sallies veteran treatment drake hides flames the whole bit. I'm also contemplating what to do for the sarcophagus. I really like the design of FWs iron clad so I might try to mimic that. weapons wise I'm thinking siege wrecker maybe so any ideas for how to build that would be appreciated. little green is going to get the same treatment but instead of the flamestorm cannon I'm gonna convert his plasma into volkite. there's a strong possibility I'll end up buying a plastic ironclad to round out the talon as well. I also have a rather large rebuild project that I'll probably work a little bit on when I get a couple extra minutes here and there.

 

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I picked up what's left of this land raider off a friend for like $10 and the thunderfire cannon was part of a large trade I made with the same friend. it's gonna be quite the undertaking but I see a Nocturne pattern land raider Achilles happening at some point

Cuz you know I never have enough projects on my plate ;)

[Pyroclast91]

So I've done a lot of reading in massacre looking up force disposition and background on my beloved Salamanders and I've got what I think is a fairly decent start on a story for this army. Keep in mind I am by no means an author I failed every writing class I took so don't expect proper grammar ;) I'd love to hear what you guys think all of your input has really helped more than I can express. Without further Ado I give you The Ash Vipers

 

When Vulkan restructured the XVIIIth legion into the seven main "Realms" he also created an eighth. Nowhere near the size of it's brother realms the 8th was given the designation of realm Ignea named for the cold labyrinthine underworld of Nocturne. This final realm consisted of one larger than normal battle company which maintained between 200-250 legionaires. This company was known as the Ash Vipers was named after a creature that inhabited the volcanic planes surrounding mount Deathfire. The Ash Vipers were intended to be a specialized assault company at first but began to take on an entirely different role throughout the great crusade. The company took on a serious tide of misfortune seeing 6 Lord Commanders fall in a century and a half. Two of whom are interred in dreadnoughts and still serving. Rumors began to spread of a curse on realm Ignea and too speak there name was thought by many to bring bad luck. With such a high turnover rate in the company's chain of command in a short period of time the force had been led by Lord Commanders specializing in close quarters assault, ship to ship boarding actions, siege combat, and armoured assault just to name a few. Consequently because of the constant cross training and changing of battlefield roles the veteran Astartes of the Ash Vipers are masters of numerous styles of warfare and have an innate ability to adapt to any situation. Unfortunately because of the rumoured "Curse" volunteers to the company are near non existent. To replenish its ranks Vulkan began using enlistment in the Ash Vipers as punishment or a type of censure for those legionaires who failed to uphold the Promethean  Creed. It was only fitting that a realm named for the underworld of Nocturne become a means for redemption.

 

The great crusade would see many bloody battles for the Ash Vipers. Hundreds of wayward sects of humanity were brought back into the fold by force, even more complied at the mere mention of the Ash Vipers. It had in fact become common practice at the beginning of a compliance for Tőzakan Ul'rak the third Lord commander of the Vipers, and now a Contemptor Dreadnought. To be dropped to the surface of a planet accompanied only by the other two dreadnoughts that act as his honour guard to deliver terms too the planet's government. More often than not the sight of Talon Ul'rak alone was enough to sway the majority of the planetary governors. When it wasn't there armament has proven on more than one occasion to be sufficient to remove any who refused to cooperate.

 

 

The current Lord Commander of the Vipers is a legionaire by the name of Nēro Tyranus a Terran born legionaire, Tyranus was the Moritat of one of the Legions destroyer companies before the Legions reunion with Vulkan. When the destroyers were disbanded in the XVIIIth like many of his brothers Tyranus took on the mantle of assault specialist. Tyranus like many of his brother Vipers earned his place in the the 8th by failing to uphold the tenants of the Promethean Creed when he chose to save a brother legionaire instead of a group of civilians on a burning promethium tanker under fire from Eldar Raiders.

 

When orders came from the Adeptus Terra to muster in the Istvaan system the Vipers were deployed in full force. At the commencement of the first wave 228 of the 251 had boots on the ground 20 were killed when there pods were shot down in Istvaan V's lower atmosphere, and 3 were listed as MIA. When 90 of those legionaires including Lord Commander Tyranus returned to Nocturne it was considered by most to be a sure sign the curse had left the 8th. Tyranus and the rest of his Vipers knew better after the hell they endured and the abominations they'd witnessed, Tyranus was more sure he and his realm were cursed than ever before.

 

After Vulkan returned to Nocturne and once again set about remaking his legion he knew his soul purpose in the coming war would be to delay the traitors approach to Terra. The legion didn't have the numbers for anything more but that wouldn't keep them out of the fight.

 

So I hope that wasn't a terrible read but even if it was I'd love to hear what I can improve. But Anywho on to some pictures. I didn't get a ton done this week has been super busy and I've been getting home pretty late. But I did find a hobby treasure trove while driving home. You see I haven't been able to find an actual brick and mortar store that carries styrene anywhere. Until I found a model train store rite down the road from my work.

 

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Needless to say I was pretty excited and I stocked up on some .4mm plain .5mm diamond plate ho scale and some various tube rod and some I beam. I also found some amazing modeling chain I wrapped it around one of my world eaters to give you an idea of the scale and how perfect it is.

 

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in my excitement I didn't think to grab some thick styrene sheet like 1mm so I guess I'll have to go back today. The only real downside to that is how much money I could spend they're if I had it.seriously if you haven't already checked out your local model train store you really should. I pretty much guarantee you'll find something that will make you wish you had long before.

 

As far as actual work on the models goes all I really accomplished was stripping the paint off of the painted box dread and pulling both him and his brother off of there bases.

 

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Did I mention I plan on having a ton of dreadnoughts ;) cuz there's between 4-6 more that I'll be adding to that pile. Heres what I'm thinking for the first half of my TOTH list.

 

 

 

++ Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (Age of Darkness) (2803pts) ++

 

+ HQ (611pts) +

 

Nēro Tyranus - Legion Praetor (446pts) [Digital Lasers, Grenade Harness, Mantle of the Elder Drake, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade, Tartaros Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, Volkite Charger]

····(Optional) Relics of the Dark Age of Technology [Zeroth Conductor Shield]

····Legion Terminator Command Squad [Grenade Harness, Heavy Flamer, 3x Legion Space Marine Chosen, Tartaros Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Volkite Charger]

········Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

····Master of the Legion [Pride of the Legion]

 

Ölak  - Legion Centurion (165pts) [Artificer Armour, Artificer Weapons, Power Weapon, Psychic Mastery Level 2, Refractor Field, Volkite Charger]

····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

····May be upgraded to one of these Consul roles: [Librarian]

 

+ Troops (652pts) +

 

Legion Terminator Squad (247pts) [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 4x Chainfist, Heavy Flamer, 4x Legion Terminators]

····Legion Terminator Sergeant [Artificer Weapons, Combi-Weapon, Grenade Harness]

····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

 

Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (405pts) [7x Combi-weapon, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Marksmen, Melta Bombs, Nuncio-Vox, 2x Volkite Charger]

····Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier [Auxiliary Drive, Extra Armour, Heavy Flamer, Hunter-Killer Missile]

····Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Artificer Weapons, Combi-weapon, Power Fist, Volkite Serpenta]

····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

 

+ Elites (575pts) +

 

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon (220pts)

····Legion Contemptor Dreadnought [Heavy Conversion Beamer, Plasma Cannon]

 

Legion Dreadnought Talon (355pts)

····Legion Dreadnought [Armoured Ceramite, Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, Extra Armour, Volkite Culverin]

····Legion Dreadnought [Armoured Ceramite, Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, Extra Armour, Flamestorm Cannon, Heavy Flamer]

 

+ Fast Attack (230pts) +

 

Legion Seeker Squad (230pts) [4x Combi-weapon, 4x Legion Seeker Space Marines, Nuncio-Vox]

····Legion Strike Leader [Artificer Weapons, Melta Bombs, Power Armour, Power Fist]

····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

 

+ Heavy Support (310pts) +

 

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon (310pts)

····Tőzakan Ul'rak - Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [Armoured Ceramite, Leviathan Storm Cannon, 2x Twin-linked Volkite Caliver]

 

+ Lord of War (425pts) +

 

Vulkan (425pts) [Primarch]

 

I think that's what I'm gonna post for my "final" list however there is about another 4000 points of models that I've ordered/ I'm going to order for the army but I figure I can always add those in once I get what I have completed. if you've read through this entire post you're awesome and thank you I'd love to hear what you think good bad or otherwise your C&C is always greatly appreciated.

[Pyroclast91]

I should have started working with styrene ages ago this stuff is amazing I know this isn't new news to most of you but I was expecting it to be much more difficult. So far I think it's coming along quite nicely for my first stab at it.

 

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Granted I know I didn't do anything really complex but I also really didn't put that much time into what I did. Anywho I'm really excited too put some real work into these things this weekend my goal is to have all four dreads completely ready for paint by Sunday nite. Then I can move on to my infantry and hopefully have enough models ready to paint that I can do my other conversions on the side and not have to rush them. But then again if my track record shows anything this modest sensible plan will spiral madly out of control :D and I wouldn't have it any other way. Thanks for checking out my work I'd love to hear any thoughts any of you might have.

[our_baz]

That world eater looks like he's just returned from Mardi Gras in New Orleans. Edited September 23, 2016 by our_baz

[Pyroclast91]

lol i that's exactly what I was shooting for :D I'm pretty excited about that chain I've needed some for a long time and I think that stuff is perfect its also the middle size (40lpi)in the line the store carries. There's also 27lpi and 60lpi I think I may end up having to grab some of those on my next visit.

[Pyroclast91]

I didn't know what I was gonna do with myself over the weekend with the site down and all do I decided to be productive. I got more of the armour plating done on the choom dread and I stripped my first attempt at armour off of the sarcophagus of the flame storm dread.

 

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I've still got a way to go on both dreads but I think they're progressing pretty well and the more I work with plasticard the more obsessed with it I'm becoming. In fact I'll probably be trying my hand at scratch building some vehicles down the road and I may even jump on the true scale bandwagon. Anywho both dreadnoughts still have some armour plating that needs added and weapons that need finished. Then I'll get on to doing trim work " the armour and details then I'll get the GS out and give these guys some drake hides. Thanks for checking out my work I'd love to hear any C&C you may have.

[bluntblade]

Looking forward to seeing how they end up

[bluntblade]

How are the Ash Vipers coming along? Edited September 28, 2016 by bluntblade

[Pyroclast91]

They're coming along pretty well I put a little time into fluff this weekend I've been working on fleshing out a couple characters I'm pretty excited about. One of whom being the former Lord Commander now Dreadnought who acts as Delegatus or Herald for the Vipers with both of the above box dreads as his honour guard. They're still very WIP in the concept stages but things are starting to fall into place. Anywho I'll get some more fluff up in the next day or so. And then in only 2 days the painting can commence for the tale .

[bluntblade]

Much choom?

[Pyroclast91]

You know it brother if it can choom it will CHOOOOM!!!! Im actually seriously considering scratch building a glaive. After all Volkite is the Vipers weapon of choice it means I'm also gonna need one of those choomy mechanicum knights :D my next trip to the model train store will likely include several more sizes of rectangular tubing as the stuff I've used on the dread is too big for all the man portable volkite I intend to build. But yes there will be as much choom as is possible :D

[Pyroclast91]

it's definitely been a long week in which I didn't get to spend nearly as much time on my models as I'd have liked. I suppose until I can convince someone to pay me to do this that'll probably be the case though. I've been focusing mainly on the shield dreads getting then ready for TOTH which begins tonight at midnight tonight.

 

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The Former Furioso and I had a little disagreement and I tore him in half and started over... he's a librarian now... or was...

Anywho he's still gonna need some more armour plating before he gets the GS treatment. I also decided to redo the powerfist that I'd built since I made the palm way too thick. But now he's got a matching set of hands on the way so he can hold his traitor smashing stick which I'm still a little unsure about. I was in the air between a mace and an axe but I didn't want him to look too wolfy and they kinda have the market cornered on axes. So I went for the flanged mace and I like it but something's just not rite about it, it definitely needs shortened but it just feels like it's missing something besides that. Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated thanks for checking out my work I'll probably have another update up tonight since I can start painting in 11 hours for the TOTH

[BlueBelly1863]

LOVE the idea of dreads carrying giant shields! That was a stroke of genius brother. I can't wait to see what it looks like painted!! 

[Pyroclast91]

Thanks brother im glad you like em!! Who says the wolves get all the good toys? Ill probably end up working on them off and on and hopefully paint them next month for the tale. Thats kinda my plan anyways.

[Vairocanum]

The plasticard work looks great! Looking forward to seeing the dreads painted up.

[Pyroclast91]

Thanks Vairocanum plasticard is definitely one of my new favorite things In like the whole world ;) Edited October 2, 2016 by Pyroclast91

[Lord Commander Eidolon]

I'm liking the plasticard work on the dreads, especially the leg extensions, I feel I will have no choice but to steal the idea!! Please post some close ups at some point!

 

In addition I am liking the Seekers you are working on, great stuff. I am going to draw suitable amounts of inspiration for mine!!

[Pyroclast91]

@Lord Commander Eidolon thanks very much brother you're too kind that's very high praise coming from you yours are some of the only emperors children that have ever even tempted me to the IIIrd. I'm glad you like what I've done with the old boys. here's some pics I hope they help.

 

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I basically use three different sizes of tube cut the biggest piece in half and lay the second biggest inside it with the larger outer tube slightly longer than the inner by I think about 4mm. then I used the smallest tube for a hydraulic ram with a piece of rod for the inner ram part.

 

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this is why you leave the outer tube longer

 

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you can leave a little piece of the leg when you cut it off for the new leg to join up to this way you can bend it like a knee joint and still hide the seam.

 

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the extended leg armour also helps for to hide the any seams. I hope these helped if not let me know and I can take more.