simison Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Candidates for the Arch-Champions Nurgle: Alexandar Kharkovic, Eagle Warriors Khorne: Jolly Slayer, Kehl Dorak Tzeentch: Predator Character, Naagloshi Character Slaanesh: Drowned Character, Traitor Serpent Undivided: Susanoo Empyon, Athrawes Raiden, Mashyan(?), Eagle Warriors LT So, there's actually not a lot decided. EDIT: And I highly disagree with not using the Dark Fates rule. Edited February 16, 2018 by simison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Dorak is the jolly slayer. Picture Carnage in power armour, with a daemonic second head that he bickers with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Slynnat's the champion, Dorak's just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Well, Slynnat's the Legion champion, Dorak gets weird in a way that pleases Khorne mightily. So Slynnat quits after Terra and winds up in the Black Legion. Btw just realised that in MoM House Viridyon were reborn from shame and sorrow in black and gold. AD-B, you sly dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Wouldn't that be Riktus, then, given that he becomes a Prince? Honestly, I don't want Dorak getting major favour, he's more like Foulspawn with sentience.Also apologies for me derailing the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Ah, I thought we'd had that settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Dorak is the jolly slayer. Picture Carnage in power armour, with a daemonic second head that he bickers with. This sounds nothing like the character I wrote. What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Okaaayyy Thanks, Sim. Seems like there's quite a lot to clarify. I'll wait with the Preds' champion suggestion for later on. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Alexander for Nurgle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Dorak is the jolly slayer. Picture Carnage in power armour, with a daemonic second head that he bickers with.This sounds nothing like the character I wrote. What are you talking about? I don't think we had a fleshed out jolly slayer. Dorak's as close as the current characters get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The Jolly Slayer is a former Warbringer who has become obsessed with ‘giving’ honor through a variety forms of bloody death. So far, I’m the one who has written a narrative blurb with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Ah, I thought we'd had that settled. I must've expressed myself badly, my apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Sorry Sim, I was way off. Raktra, it's a long time since we discussed it. I could easily have just forgotten. So, Slynnat as Berserker Champion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 It would fit best, he keeps his mind the most intact. Although I have a light day at work tomorrow, so I have time to write. I’ll see what I can make of the other options available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Back on topic, how are we handling the Dark Fates rule? Do we use it sparingly or vigorously? Also, I've added a couple of EW characters for Chaos Undivided and to give Kharkovic a rival for Nurgle's affection. (Hypothetically, I could add an EW officer for each character.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 A rival? There are no rivalries when it comes to Nurgle's affection...he has enough pestilence filled love for everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Honestly it's a rule that should be decided by characters and story and not rule balance; basically if it fits we use it, if it doesn't we don't. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Honestly it's a rule that should be decided by characters and story and not rule balance; basically if it fits we use it, if it doesn't we don't. So, care not for the spoilers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Off the current subject of conversation, but did we get anywhere with the Unification wars facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Off the current subject of conversation, but did we get anywhere with the Unification wars facts? I got 3 done. Also, Grifft votes we use Dark Fates a lot. My caveat for this is that we have a 2:1 ratio of Traitor characters: those without versus those with Dark Fates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 To elaborate a little on my PoV. The Marked by Dark Fates rule to me should only signify narrative relevance for the immediate events of the Insurrection itself. So it indicative that a character has some important task within the context of the Insurrection, not that they will still be around in 10k years (though some might be). Essentially it is a guarantee of some future significance, rather than a guarantee of survival through the upheaval that follows the dual Sieges. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Sounds alright to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Honestly it's a rule that should be decided by characters and story and not rule balance; basically if it fits we use it, if it doesn't we don't. So, care not for the spoilers? We're in an odd position, the 40k universe is full of spoilers because that's just the nature of the beast, the HH is filling out history; so the twists and turns come in the smaller stories. We on the other hand get to work traditionally, but if spoilers happen I personally won't be too upset, because I feel like there is a lot of cool story regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) I found facts for most of the Legions during the Unification period. Some Legions don't have facts are because the search function didn't turn up the word Unification in their threads. Fact 4: Recruited from the Paladin Cults of North Ind, a society that placed honour above life itself, at first there seemed to be nothing remarkable about the 4th. This illusion was dispelled as, upon their first deployment, they launched a dawn assault via aerial vehicles that saw the leaders of the Pan-Pacific Empire massacred. Their mode and time of assault gave them the title of Morning Stars. Fact 5: Achieving deployment earlier than many of it's brother Legions, the majority of the Vth originated from the religiously united techno-barbarian states of Jermani. An aggressive and competitive nature compared to the 1st gave rise to accusations of a gene-seed flaw, something that was thoroughly rebuked in time. Fact 6: The 6th Legion was recruited from Nord American tribes in order to obtain more Legionaries so that the Unification What's momentum would continue even as it's opponents began to fortify themselves. The peculiarities of their gene-seed lead to a slow and steady growth. By the end of the Unification Wars they dwarfed many other Legions. Fact 7: Heavily influenced by their recruiting grounds in Europa, the 7th early campaigns in Gyptus and Nordafrik earned them the name of The Shepherds of Eden, adhering to a strict chivalric code that saw them cast as liberators rather than conquerors. Fact 8: The resilient people's of the Kulatic League were early on identified as a potential source of aspirants. After a decades long purge of their original religions the 8th soon displayed signs of ruthlessness from an early stage as they sought to battle could please fanatics that threw themselves in their path. Fact 9: The survival of many of the 9th’s aspirants despite a strenuous gene seed implantation increased a self-belief in their innate superiority as warriors, something inherited from their Pansylvanian culture. To their foes they presented an iron wall of discipline and coordination that shattered all before them. Fact 10: Whether an honour or not, the 10th can rightfully claim that during Unification they faced a foe no other Legion did. When the Emperor decided that the Thunder Warrior's usefulness was over and moved to eliminate them, a portion escaped. In doing so they proved the very reason for their elimination, for they founded their own rebellions as overlords. The task of eliminating them was given to the 10th. Fact 11:? Fact 12? Fact 13: Unlike many, the present day name of the Eagle Warriors dates back to the Unification Wars themselves, where their penchant for using rapid assaults to outmanoeuvre their foes. Like many they were recruited from peoples that had put up determined but not suicidal resistance against the armies of the Emperor, in this case the denizens of Kentral Americ's radiation tainted jungles. Fact 14: The so called 'sightless fourteenth' found both it's size and reputation hindered by both an unstable geneseed and its retainment of the aspirants culture within the Terran salt deserts before they were brought to heel under the Emperor. These apparent coincidences would echos the homeworld of their Primarch. Fact 15: The 15th Legion found that its Pariah Gene crippled it's early expansion, rendering most it's aspirants from the jungles in Hy-Brasil useless corpses. Its first campaign was undertook with a force of no more than 200 Astartes, by the end of which they had earned the Cognomen of The Wraiths', for tactics that relied not upon open battle but terrifying the foe into surrender. Fact 16: The 16ths expertise in aquatic warfare dates back to its Terran origins, those who used the meagre remaining bodies of water as a defensive stratagem. Even then they would display an aptitude for complex campaigns and bear the cost, losing over half their number in their first operation. Fact 17: ?? Fact 18: The 18th never saw action Terra. The Unification Wars were already coming close to their conclusion when the great hives of Terra and their gang-warfare embroiled inhabitants were selected for recruits. Deployment was further slowed by geneseed difficulties that made implantation a battle of sheer willpower that retained much of their former memories. By the time they were ready for battle, Terra had been conquered. Fact 19: The Phantoms were a Legion of superlative swordsmen that became renowned for its members actions in single combat. Drawn from the city of Mariana within the Atlanta Wastes they drew upon that domains culture of assassins to slay Sud-Afrik tyrants and Urshek warlords, despite a relatively small size. Fact 20: The Vessorid warriors of the Zealandia wastes made for skilled but destructive recruits for the 20th. The divisive and cruel culture that birthed its aspirants showed clearly in its furious assaults. Criticised for cruelty and individualism, they would be given the task of those abominations that sought to survive the Emperor's coming by lurking in the shadows. Edited February 17, 2018 by Beren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The 10th took part putting down rebel elements led by surviving Thunder Warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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