Sigismund229 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) As I started on rewriting Underwater Madness(yes I know, I still need to finish the Death of the Bear. I'll get there some day) I started a list for DoR losses among the loyalist legions. III-Crimson Lions. Starting strength: 180-200k. 50k+/- lost on the DoR, N/A turned renegade V-Halycon Wardens. Starting strength: 240k. 5(?)k+/- lost on the DoR, 15k+ turned renegade VI-Iron Bears. Starting strength: 160k. 100k+/- lost on the DoR, 3k+ turned renegade X-Fire Keepers. Starting strength: 150k. N/A lost on the DoR, 500+ turned renegade XII-Wardens of Light. Starting strength: 157k. 25-27k lost on the DoR, N/A turned renegade XIV-Dune Serpents. Starting strength: 97k. N/A lost on the DoR, 38,800+ turned renegade XIX- Scions Hospitalier. Starting strength: 170k. Either 45K or 80-136k lost, N/A turned renegade Edited February 23, 2017 by Sigismund229 simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hey ho. Only 25-27k are lost on the DoR as the entire First fleet is destroyed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Edited Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 136K lost from the scions??. I know this is not the final number, but THAT would be a huge loss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 136K lost from the scions??. I know this is not the final number, but THAT would be a huge loss Explain later. Atm, the confirmed number is 45k definitely lost. 136k stemmed from an idea I had Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hehe, I bet Slips get a stroke Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 As I started on rewriting Underwater Madness(yes I know, I still need to finish the Death of the Bear. I'll get there some day) I started a list for DoR losses among the loyalist legions. III-Crimson Lions. Starting strength: 180-200k. 50k+/- lost on the DoR, N/A turned renegade V-Halycon Wardens. Starting strength: 240k. 5(?)k+/- lost on the DoR, 15k+ turned renegade VI-Iron Bears. Starting strength: 160k. 100k+/- lost on the DoR, 3k+ turned renegade X-Fire Keepers. Starting strength: 150k. N/A lost on the DoR, 500+ turned renegade XII-Wardens of Light. Starting strength: 157k. 25-27k lost on the DoR, N/A turned renegade XIV-Dune Serpents. Starting strength: 97k. N/A lost on the DoR, 38,800+ turned renegade XIX- Scions Hospitalier. Starting strength: 170k. Either 45K or 80-136k lost, N/A turned renegade The 5k looks right. The caveat being is that it's only a small number of Wardens killed, but it's a lot of the upper echelons of the Order of the Shield. And the casualty lists don't include the number of Wardens captured, which happens to a significant number of Wardens. Most of those were either enrolled in the legion exchange program with Traitor legions or were performing garrison duty on worlds captured by the Traitor's early conquests. Still, overall the Wardens got off with a light touch on the Day of Revelation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hehe, I bet Slips get a stroke We're talking about it currently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'll decide ob the Predators after revising their Legion structure. Have to wait for Inferno but I'll keep you updated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 As I started on rewriting Underwater Madness(yes I know, I still need to finish the Death of the Bear. I'll get there some day) I started a list for DoR losses among the loyalist legions. III-Crimson Lions. Starting strength: 180-200k. 50k+/- lost on the DoR, N/A turned renegade V-Halycon Wardens. Starting strength: 240k. 5(?)k+/- lost on the DoR, 15k+ turned renegade VI-Iron Bears. Starting strength: 160k. 100k+/- lost on the DoR, 3k+ turned renegade X-Fire Keepers. Starting strength: 150k. N/A lost on the DoR, 500+ turned renegade XII-Wardens of Light. Starting strength: 157k. 25-27k lost on the DoR, N/A turned renegade XIV-Dune Serpents. Starting strength: 97k. N/A lost on the DoR, 38,800+ turned renegade XIX- Scions Hospitalier. Starting strength: 170k. Either 45K or 80-136k lost, N/A turned renegade Sometime ago we agreed to raise legion numbers. I think I recalculated he FK to be 180k on DoR with about 30% casualties so 54000. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Bollocks, yeah, regarding the artist, I'm gonna make a thread for it so we can sort out our total funding capability etc. I've paid for a separate Raktra one simply because I wanted one, but I'm still up for throwing in for our group bit. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Why not just use the old artist recruitment thread? I still have my $15 to spend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I think that we had all Primarchs covered. 18 x 15 pounds I believe = about 270 in total So, I may assume that we can commission him. And there were some additional request as well. Maybe I'd like to have a seperate one for a char of the Black Condas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'd be more than happy to chip in for one of Mortera. Depending on how next month's spending pans out I may even get some others Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I believe I offered to cover one for someone else as well as one for Xander Purechild of the 1st Heredes and one for my own personal project... So yeah, three. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4664998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'm still down for tossing in, and might get one of Redd as well. Actually I am thinking of hitting up some of my painter friends, and have a painting of Redd hunting traitors on Terra during the seige. Then I can use a drum scanner and we could use it as some of the artwork for the last book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Going to bed. I added Talonair's contribution and went through the start of this thread and the end of the old Discussion thread to pull in all of the responses to Giacondino's offer. I've added all of them onto the list, but put them in [ ] to show that we haven't confirmed if the situation is the same for people a month ago. Going through the old replies, we never got a reply from Squig or Hesh. Raktra never answered if this was a series of solo pieces or a group shot. I've gotten a tax return, so my ability to contribute has gone up. That's all for tonight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 When I leave NZ I get a backpacker's tax rebate for the 20 months. I'm looking forward to that money so much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 A backpacker's tax rebate? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Cos I'm on a Working Holiday Visa, rather than just travelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Sorry, yeah...the American doesn't get that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Sorry, yeah...the American doesn't get that You're not the only one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Idea after looking at the Blood Angels rules: How about we give the Insurrectionists a special rite of war for use in book 1's missions only called the Day of Revelation? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 The Kiwis don't understand it either. I think it has something to do with only being able to work half my trip, and paying a lot of money into NZ simply by travelling here and having to run a car. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 The Harbinger Exemplary Battles still need an editing run. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/24/#findComment-4665810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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