bluntblade Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 I thought they attacked the Dune Serpents? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Nope, don't know who gets the honor of hitting the Serpents, but the Fire Keepers go to the Warriors and their Mechanicum/Titan allies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Okey dokey. Then Thirgen is taking a sword off a Warriors of Peace officer (his own got stuck in said officer's gorget). Demus Ragnok 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Cool beans Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I apologize for not posting more in the last couple of days. Yesterday, I had a professor tell me that they believed I should be kicked out of the educational program I'm in. It was... brutal to say the least. I'm taking steps to try to resolve everything, but I've been feeling like I'm bleeding emotionally. And that makes it really hard to post in addition to my huge workload.  However, I am taking steps and not all hope is lost on salvaging everything. Come Thursday, my workload essentially halves, and I should be feeling better by then. So, I'll be ramping back up in the next couple of days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Good grief Sim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Damn Sim... Those were his exact words? That he believed you should be kicked out? Christ, what kind of self-respecting teacher does that? Screw that guy! A teacher should support and encourage their students, not insult them and tell them they shouldn't be given the chance to learn! To hell with him, ignore his ignorant ass, people like that aren't worth dealing with. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 That's horrid :mad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 It was put a little nicer than that. She said she believed I should either leave the program or she needs to see some development of my professional interpersonal skills. This was part of an evaluation of my group facilitation that I led on Saturday as part of my Social Work requirements. She said I was too direct and curt as things stand now and might fail my internship course. Â That all said, I do appreciate the support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 ...isnt being direct and curt a good thing so that misunderstandings dont occur? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) Oha. That is gross... Â Keep your heads up. Happened to me once too. Fight back and sjow them that you are able to pull it off. Â Sometimes soemthing like this is used to wake you up and improve the student/ actor. In theatre we call it the american speech. We confront the actors with their problems in order to get an even better play. Hope it is something lime that. Edited March 1, 2017 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 ...isnt being direct and curt a good thing so that misunderstandings dont occur?  The general goal of a social worker leading a group (or at least the American version) is to build rapport and build a safe and friendly atmosphere. She said that I didn't spend enough time helping the group members reflect on their answers, didn't summarize their answers enough, and generally wasn't really being supportive. I was being too much of an 'educator', providing direct answers instead of focusing on emotional support. I also have this habit of burning nervous energy through self-deprecative jokes. Made a couple at the start, and she knocked points off because they weren't professional. Then she asked that I really think about that habit of mine, which makes me really confused. It almost sounds like she thinks I have a self-esteem issue. Don't know.   Oha. That is gross...  Keep your heads up. Happened to me once too. Fight back and sjow them that you are able to pull it off.  Sometimes soemthing like this is used to wake you up and improve the student/ actor. In theatre we call it the american speech. We confront the actors with their problems in order to get an even better play. Hope it is something lime that.  I've not ruled out the possibility that she's 'hitting' me hard to make sure I clearly recognize the importance of the interpersonal skills. It could be a do-or-die situation in order to push my development. But, dang it, I don't want to undergo the Naruto/Bleach/*insert anime* training session of hell!  What's also throwing me off is that my Field Instructor, my boss at the agency I was interning with, vehemently disagrees with my professor. She thinks it's nothing more than a difference in style and believes my professor isn't being objective on the matter. So, the two people who will have the greatest impact on whether or not I pass my internship (and maybe my degree) are giving me two completely opposite reactions on the key event.  Blech.  Anyway, it's late here, so I'm going to bed. Hopefully tomorrow will bring better news. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Ouch that seems harsh. It also seems quite surprising to me as you aren't at all curt here, and people are generally less diplomatic on the Internet then in real life. Â The only consolation I can offer is that you seem like a good project manager/facilitator for the BotL, and the only advice I can offer is to try and seek a second opinion from another professor (it would be ideal if you have a taped video as an example), and if you need it, take a *temporary* break from your extracurricular projects to focus on getting your diploma Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Agree with Thorn. Â Ask your colleagues if these accusations are indeed true and if there's room for improvement. Safest way to go. Â Besides that, screw that! Show her what you got! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The only consolation I can offer is that you seem like a good project manager/facilitator for the BotL, and the only advice I can offer is to try and seek a second opinion from another professor (it would be ideal if you have a taped video as an example), and if you need it, take a *temporary* break from your extracurricular projects to focus on getting your diploma  I've not sought a second opinion per se, but rather I've asked other professors to keep an eye on my interpersonal skills and offer tips. The one professor I've completely explained the situation to has taken a middle-of-the-road stance. I'm clearly displaying interpersonal skills in a classroom setting as an educator, but that's not a direct comparison to a group facilitation with actual clients. So, while encouraging and supportive the second professor can't say the other professor is wrong without observing the exact same scenario.  I don't need a break because this isn't a time-dependent situation at the moment. While one suggestion has been to videotape future group facilitations to show to the first professor as improvement, there's still a lot of confusion on what's exactly going on with my grade. It's not helping that the original professor hasn't responded to my last e-mail or sent an e-mail to my field instructor like she said she would do.   Agree with Thorn.  Ask your colleagues if these accusations are indeed true and if there's room for improvement. Safest way to go.  Besides that, screw that! Show her what you got!  Oh, I intend to. I have no desire to repeat a 150-hour internship from scratch. I'm trying to come up with alternative events to show progress made in this area, and I'm talking to every Social Work professor who's class I'm in this semester for help and tips. What really sucks is I suspect I'm going to be called to the head of the program's office soon because I'll have 'failed' the internship again. I failed it last semester because of a combination of actually screwing up (failed to do required tasks, showing up late to important meetings) and how my field instructor grades. She's one of those people who never hands out A's for undergraduate interns. So, my grade looked weaker than it actually was. I've made sure to have a conversation with her at this point about it. She defends her grading style with a consistent philosophy, which I respect, but she assured me that she is going to explicitly describe her grading style to the university and praise me as someone who has done the required work and would hire if I were on the market without hesitation.  So, ideally, my field instructor's explanation, despite what the actual grade looks like, will be enough to persuade my professor that I deserve to pass my Junior internship.  It just sucks because while I'm creating all of these contingency plans and setting up these ideas to work on my interpersonal skills, I'm not actually hearing or seeing what's happening to my grade or to my status within the program.  And here I thought I was done with 'Hurry up and wait!' when I left the Army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4669849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Jeez sim, and I thought secondary school is bad. Can't really offer any advice but hope you bounce back from this and prove her wrong! Â Question: Do the Predators get ambushed on the DoR? If not, wouldn't Icarion try to crush them asap as he takes control kf the galactic centre? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 The Predators are somewhat spread across the Imperium (instead of operating in 5 major fleets, nearly every tribe acts on their own by then) during the DoR in order to chase down renegade governors, usurpers, etc.  Furthermore, they are on a secret mission of gathering information about chaos and how to defeat it after having fought against Alkaraxx the twice-born.  On the DoR, the Bloodlords declare their independence and start a campaign of attrition and bloodshed in honor of their new patron, Khorne. It takes several years until they are confronted by their former brethren, most notably Andezo himself and the Ebonspears.  Besides that, I have one tribe, which is annihilated prior to the Siege of Terra, the Plainrunners. Haven't decided at which time they face extinction. Can either be on the DoR or another event.  If that's not enough, I can relinquish on one or two other tribes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Well actually I was thinking that the Predators would probably be the only loyal legion in any kind of state to try and stop Icarion's expansion in the galactic centre Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 That's assuming the Predators could properly muster themselves in time to react to new enemy suddenly in their midst, if they're as far spread out and independent as Kel says, even Andezo sends out the order to recall the tribes and muster somewhere to counterattack Icarion's forces the very instant the DoR happens it could take a horrendous amount of time for the tribes to gather. And if they attack the Insurrectionists separately they could be out-manoeuvred, surrounded and crushed by the superior numbers and strength off the traitors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Nevertheless, a summoning call could be a good opportunity to gather the Legion, see what they have found out (which turns out to be nothing and that would deepen/ introduce Andezos desperation) and act as a single force again. Even if it takes a while, some tribes can have cameos in a couple of campaigns throughout our books.  While Andezo would lead the majority of the Legion against Icarion, he could sent out the Ebonspears and / or the Phantom Blades to continue their quest of finding a way to defeat chaos.  This way, I can separate their story arc, leading to the assumption of Adewales death and surprisingly return during the Legions gathering after the siege of Terra, which again will result in the Legions shattering. Edited March 2, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 So here was my idea: Â As the other loyalist legions regroup and dig in or are engaged in running battles against Insurrectionist legions, Andezo and the Predators he has with him(90,000-100,000?) go on a rampage, punishing traitor systems in the central Imperium Night Lords style. Icarion sees that this will kill his nascent empire eventually if he allows them to continue so he sends Eagle Warriors to fight them. Â Could be an interesting red page Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Let me count....  Bloodlords going traitor  Plainrunners may be extinguished  Ebonspears + Phantom Blades (those Andezo trusts the most) on a separate quest  about 90K stay with Andezo.  Though their numbers in total might change after I've read Inferno. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I reckon Alex would demand that Andezo keep most of his Legion in a position where they can defend the Loyalist orders, but then perhaps they could be used to stymie Insurrctionist advances while Mars is wrested back into Loyalist hands and the other Liyalsits regroup. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 How is the relationship with alex? How does he feel with alex as warmaster? Maybe he thinks his approach is best and try to be the nail in icarions coffin and does his own thing (the thing sig suggested) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Andezo doesn't care for Alexandros being the warmaster but he doesn't feel comfortable with Alexandros caring so much about his and his Legions wellbeing. Â The Predators hunt on their own. They respect Alexandros but they want to be left alone. Â We can say that Alexandros asks Andezo to keep Icarion in check, while he's regrouping the loyalist Legions. In doing so, he (Alexandros) unleashes the Predators, granting them the right to act on their own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/26/#findComment-4670407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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