simison Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Well actually I was thinking that the Predators would probably be the only loyal legion in any kind of state to try and stop Icarion's expansion in the galactic centre Perhaps, or, in addition to being too spread out, Andezo is in the wrong place. Remember how both Angel legions were sent to the outer limits of the galaxy to prevent their immediate withdrawal? Why not give the Predators the same treatment. Before the Day of Revelation, Alex still places a lot of trust in Icarion. Additionally, whenever Alex is on Terra, Icarion is essentially in command of the forward lines. Icarion could easily coordinate and falsify a xeno threat on the very edge of the Great Crusade that requires the Predators' experience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Well actually I was thinking that the Predators would probably be the only loyal legion in any kind of state to try and stop Icarion's expansion in the galactic centre Perhaps, or, in addition to being too spread out, Andezo is in the wrong place. Remember how both Angel legions were sent to the outer limits of the galaxy to prevent their immediate withdrawal? Why not give the Predators the same treatment. Before the Day of Revelation, Alex still places a lot of trust in Icarion. Additionally, whenever Alex is on Terra, Icarion is essentially in command of the forward lines. Icarion could easily coordinate and falsify a xeno threat on the very edge of the Great Crusade that requires the Predators' experience. But still, the Predators wouldn't be gone for all of the 2 or so years that there's still fighting in the galactic centre. Or if they were, it would take some explaining. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) To sum it up: Predators are spread across the Imperium prior to the DoR eventually Icarion tasks Andezo with hunting down phantoms DoR occurs: Bloodlords become traitors, Plainrunners might get extinguished, Andezo is called back by Alex Predators gather, which takes its time Alex tasks to engage the Traitors, unleashing the Predators while Andezo and most of the Legion start to counter Icarion, Ebonspears and Phantom Blade tribes are sent out to continue the Legions quest of gathering knowledge about Chaos and to hunt down the Bloodlords as well Andezo starts a campaign of attrition and distraction to buy time for Alex, White Scars / Night Lord style the Predators take the brunt of the traitors attack, depleting their numbers and exhausting them during this campaign, the Culling of Strathus Secundus occurs, leading to the downfall of the entire Legion Edited March 2, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Looks good. By the way, after reading the brief blurb of the Drowned saying how they operate at the cutting-edge of the Great Crusade and are infamous for their independence, is there a potential connection between the Drowned and Predators? Or perhaps with the Grave Stalkers, another legion noteworthy for their independence? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Have to check the relations list. Besides, ny copy of Inferno has arrived. Therefore I'll be here while at work. At home, I'll spend my time with my family and in my "freetime", I'll devour Inferno. Just for info if I'm not that active in the next couple of days. Afterwards, I'll maybe revise some bits of the Preds, depending on how the Wolves are done and if there are some things I could make use of. :) Edited March 2, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 In terms of stuff going on in the galactic centre, Nox is pretty much directly south of the core, so the Taghmata Serghar plus Furia's battlegroup could chip in and lend a hand, or fend off some traitor attackers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 What does Fidelitas Sine Recursu mean? That's the Wolves allegiance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 It means they get sent to kill you when you get out of line. The Crimson Lions have it in botl I believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) They do. You step out of line with the Emperor, they'll bury an axe in your head without a second thought and burn your home so that no trace of you exists. However, that loyalty is a personal one. Its to the Emperor, so anyone else, whether they be Custodians, Malcador or an uppity Imperial official, can sod off Edited March 2, 2017 by Sigismund229 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4670970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 As we are all aware, some legions are more well-developed than others. Some of us are writers, some of us are artists, and some of us are better at coming up with ideas. I would like to decrease this gap. Hence, I propose we have a writing challenge every month. Each month, we will pick one legion. I encourage everyone to write one piece for the legion. It can be a little story short, it could be developing a concept (example, what are the mysterious Ground Dragons of Mexicatii?), or something else. And the bonus? Completely free. Do people like the idea? If so, which legion should be first? bluntblade and Kelborn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Sim, THST IS A GREAT IDEA AND WOULD REALLY DECREASE SOME OF THE GAPS IN LEGION DEVELOPEMENT. SORRY FOR MY YELLING, just saw logan and am still awstrucked at how good the movie was. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I think this is a great idea...and I suggest we go in order, 1st Legion first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Oh boy this is a great idea. It also encourages everyone to get a feel for the legions, and lets everyone have some "ownership" over them, sort of how the canon legions don't really "belong" to anyone. We could start with the least-developed legions and cycle through those to give them a bit of a head start? That way they get a bit of a boost in comparison to the more covered ones. After that, I'm all for numerical order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Fantastic idea Sim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I'd say first, first. They've so much already it'll be an easy warm up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Excellent. I agree with Drak. While it would be simpler to go in numerical order, some legions could really use some love. So, who's the least developed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Steel Legion. Though maybe they need more of a foundation. But after them, the Predators, Void Eagles, Drowned, Godslayers, Grave Stalkers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Great idea, sim! :tu: And I agree that this is a great opportunity to get familiar with all Legions, get to know the people and their ideas / themes and the likes. Though I'll have to be careful as I might not have the time to contribute every month but I'll try my best. :D After reading the first pages of the Wolves part in Inferno...jeez...awesome stuff. Unintentionally, the Predators are similar to the 30K Wolves in some points which I did not expected. Think that I'll revise the Legions relations in terms of making Andezo and Russ buddies. ^^ Do we have a Legion which has Search & Destroy as warfare tendency? Maybe the Lions? If not, it may fit the Predators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Nope, Lions don't have search and destroy. Predators can have it :) Agreed, a "fluff challenge" is a good idea. As far as which legions need love, Godslayers, Void Eagles, Grave Stalkers and(I think) Fire Keepers and Warriors of Peace Edited March 3, 2017 by Sigismund229 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 It would help fix that problem we had with the "literrally who?" legions (Jackel, Coch'ise, may you remain unforgotten). I nominate the Drowned, Eagle Warriors, Godslayers, and Predators for first runs (though I understand why you guys can have trouble with thee VE; not as straightforward as the Warbringers). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I like the idea of a challenge, but in that case the first post synopsis I mentioned at some point becomes vitally important :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 First challenge: write down a synopsis of your Legion. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I think everybody should contributr. Even if he can write only 4-5 semtences depicting a battle they were in or introducong a character. Because the other way i can see the thing stopping before it has stsrted. And 5 sentences are possible in a month Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I also think we should have dedicated editors for those who feel that their writing skills are lacking, or their typing skills. I think it will help those who might be more reluctant to put something out there if they know there's someone who can polish their piece before it's posted. To that extant, I volunteer myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 *extent :P TheBlindPrimarch 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/27/#findComment-4671545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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