bluntblade Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 I hadn't considered that actually. They're big enough for Terminators, aren't they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4803714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Cool. Btw Tal, have you got any units for the Taghmata Abyssii in need of fluff? Did you mean units with rules or? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4803720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited)  BTW, Alex and Koschei/Nomus riding together in a Spartan - too risky to justify purely for a scene?I think that sounds awesome, although the "riding in a Spartan" premise is a little iffy to me, mainly because I'm unsure if Primarchs canonically can fit inside a Spartan, let alone three of them, especially if Koschei is wearing that Terminator Armour of his. That said, Alex and Nomus are among the smallest of the Primarchs so perhaps they'd fit... Regardless it sounds like a cool scene, I can picture Nomus filling in his brothers on the latest intelligence reports from Omnia Squads in the field via a holo-display from his wrist device while Alex and Koschei discuss their strategy. Also, is this the campaign Alex, Koschei and Nomus are on while the Prosecution is happening?   Well as far as I'm aware of game-wise, Spartans are the primary delivery method for Primarchs, outside of T-hawks or Stormbirds. They'll fit, they just take up a bit of room.  A Mastodon could probably give them some more breathing space, and would probably be a better command center. Edited June 30, 2017 by ~Drakzilla~ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4803732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 I've read Primarchs being carried in Storm Eagles in the fluff, and they're way smaller internally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4803780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 Â Cool. Btw Tal, have you got any units for the Taghmata Abyssii in need of fluff? Did you mean units with rules or? Â Yep. Or military leaders who should be mentioned in the Campaign fluff, or even units you'd like shown off during same. Â Just because of the constraints of the scene I want to write, I'm thinking out of transport, urban warfare (with AT-AT style walkers, Knights and other good stuff) with Alex and Koschei/Nomus sharing a moment before committing to a charge. I just need to decide what they'd talk about, and which Primarch would be more interesting to show in that situation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4803816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 All of them sort of need fluff >_> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4803845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 All of them sort of need fluff >_> Well, it's a bit late here, but fling me basic descriptions for a few and I'll try and tackle them shortly (for banners and all) and now I'm starting on the battles on Mars, I can work them in :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4803849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 Doing some wiki wanderings, and with Gardinaal, FW were right on the money with their "bipedal Titan-analogues" being a match for the Legio Atarus' machines. An AT-AT and Reaver Titan are only 20cm apart in height. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4803895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 If it doesn't look like I'm active for the next week, that is because I'm combing through the preview and rooting the last of the errors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4804617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 Cool. I will be starting a new job, and otherwise tackling Mars and Abyssii stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4804633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 "Brutal Raktra was one of the most vocal, calling the appointment a foolish mistake followed by claims that he would’ve been far more suited to the role. Despite whispered resistance and his own confusion, Alexandros would honour his father’s trust and threw himself into his new role. Several of his brother Primarchs would offer him their full support: Daer’dd, Gwalchavad, and Icarion."  This is a blurb on Page 16 of the Preview. It's about Primarch reactions to the Warmaster appointment.  I'm unsatisfied with it. In the canon version, it speaks of Horus's own elevation and how he has the full support of Mortarion, Fulgrim, and Angron. Yet, a couple of lines down, it has Angron vocally criticize the decision. Not because of Horus, but because Angron counts this as the Emperor failing him.  So, Raktra obviously mirrors Angron, but it's an odd list of supporters for Horus' promotion since it doesn't mention Sanguinius, taking care to mention the Primarchs in Betrayal. Alex's list might need to be tweaked, but I'm not sure how. If I should focus on the Book 1 Primarchs, do I only mention those who stayed on Alex's side, Daer'dd and Pionus? Or do I mention those who would ironically turn against him, Icarion and Koschei? Do I mix and match?  What do people think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4804726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Hey guys, Raktra and Icarion's art from Disarmonia is used in this vid. No info about them, just used as reference pics. Still badass! Raktra at 7.30, Icarion around 9.25. bluntblade and Nomus Sardauk 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4804813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Wardens of Light got their own episode, followed by the Lightning Bearers some weeks ago. Â But yeah, still cool. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4804817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 "Brutal Raktra was one of the most vocal, calling the appointment a foolish mistake followed by claims that he would’ve been far more suited to the role. Despite whispered resistance and his own confusion, Alexandros would honour his father’s trust and threw himself into his new role. Several of his brother Primarchs would offer him their full support: Daer’dd, Gwalchavad, and Icarion."   This is a blurb on Page 16 of the Preview. It's about Primarch reactions to the Warmaster appointment.  I'm unsatisfied with it. In the canon version, it speaks of Horus's own elevation and how he has the full support of Mortarion, Fulgrim, and Angron. Yet, a couple of lines down, it has Angron vocally criticize the decision. Not because of Horus, but because Angron counts this as the Emperor failing him.  So, Raktra obviously mirrors Angron, but it's an odd list of supporters for Horus' promotion since it doesn't mention Sanguinius, taking care to mention the Primarchs in Betrayal. Alex's list might need to be tweaked, but I'm not sure how. If I should focus on the Book 1 Primarchs, do I only mention those who stayed on Alex's side, Daer'dd and Pionus? Or do I mention those who would ironically turn against him, Icarion and Koschei? Do I mix and match?  What do people think? Mix and match, perhaps. At least a few Primarchs should have their loyalties relatively malleable.  With Icarion I think we should say he was inscrutable, never seen not to support Alex, but everyone is wondering how he's actually taken it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4804885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 Everyone avoid Baby Driver. You'll come out with a mad grin and severely impaired grimdark functions. Â Or alternatively, everyone go see Baby Driver! It's terrific Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4804898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017  Mix and match, perhaps. At least a few Primarchs should have their loyalties relatively malleable.  With Icarion I think we should say he was inscrutable, never seen not to support Alex, but everyone is wondering how he's actually taken it.   Well, it's obvious from the canon book, that FW was trying to keep the spotlight on the Primarchs who debuted in Betrayal. That's why they only mention Angron, Mortarion, and Fulgrim. So, I'm wondering if I should likewise keep the spotlight only only the Insurrection Primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4805136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 That's not a bad idea. Pionus and Daer'dd are Alex's most prominent supporters, I suspect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4805301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Raktra at 7.30, Icarion around 9.25. Gwal's also in the thumbnail and in the video itself at 12:57. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4805405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017   Mix and match, perhaps. At least a few Primarchs should have their loyalties relatively malleable.  With Icarion I think we should say he was inscrutable, never seen not to support Alex, but everyone is wondering how he's actually taken it.   Well, it's obvious from the canon book, that FW was trying to keep the spotlight on the Primarchs who debuted in Betrayal. That's why they only mention Angron, Mortarion, and Fulgrim. So, I'm wondering if I should likewise keep the spotlight only only the Insurrection Primarchs.  I don't think we should. Thing with FW was that everyone already knew the characters they were presenting so they could afford to skip character indicators like how they reacted to Horus becoming Warmaster in favour of keeping the spotlight on a few select primarchs. By contrast, nobody is going to really know the primarchs we're presenting so we can't afford to skip such character indicators in the same way Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4805409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 We are stars!!! Celebrities!!! Â I would stick with SIG. Mention the other primarchs shows that there are others and give a glimpse in the universe we created. Concentrating only in those covered in insurrection would narrow the thing down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4805493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Can someone give me a 40Kish substitute for "dinosaur"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4806640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Lexicanum / Warhammerwiki state them as Megadons or simply Dragons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4806665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 I've found a workaround Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4806694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Dinosaurminatus, with GW's bloody lexicon. Sigismund229 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4807007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Sounds like the best Exterminatis ever Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/73/#findComment-4807016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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