dark_elf Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Comdex heralds are 2 dmg instead of 1 dmg. This puts index heralds inferior before factoring in price drops, if there any. Overall very very disappointing release for mono Slaanesh players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackarmor_redtruth Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 This might take the weekend to soak in all this stuff, okay, lets go read! (Bummed my cards didn't come though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backslide Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Well I'm running a slaneesh Battlion tomorrow 90 daemonettes with a prince a Herald and the masque... they are foot slogging And 90 bloodletters are mostly going to be deepstriking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 I'm still waiting for my codex and cards to be despatched :( Any Slaaneshi tidbits welcome, and of course game reports even better :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDeath Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I'm still waiting for my codex and cards to be despatched Any Slaaneshi tidbits welcome, and of course game reports even better Happy to help with some quick combinations or tricks: - Daemonettes with character nearby can charge over a range of 7+(1+d6)+(2d6+1)=12"-27", on average about 22" - Fiends of Slaanesh are awesome. Charge with nearby character 14+(d6)+(2d6)=17"-32" on average about 24" for nice first turn charges + they stop enemies from retreating, tying things up. I would advise for multiple single fiend units. - Same range for seekers + they reroll charge rolls. - Daemonettes already have a huge amount of attacks, now these can also generate even more attacks on a wound of 6+ via stratagem. A little mathhammer. 30 Daemonettes have 90 attacks, so about 60 hits and every wound roll of 6 produces another one for on average 100 attacks. And the best: This stratagem is not targeting a unit but a character that now has an aura with this buff for one round. You can buff a multiple units of daemonettes - The other way around, you can give a unit an aura that reduces the attack characteristic of enemies. - and finally a reroll to hit stratagem thats quiet cheap. - A warlord trait that reduces enemy attacks in an aura - or one that lets you reroll anything vs. characters. - And for relics:Slaanesh got the hidden... na, forbidden gem of this book. You maybe heard of it? The thing that says Mortarion, Magnus, Guilli... Gylli... the other guy he is not allowed to play this phase I have the feeling Slaanesh is even more "charg"-y than Khorne this book. You tie them up, then debuff them and then its a game of "can you tank my gals long enough to kill them?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 That's great Death thanks for the run down Seems Fiends are still very good, shame about the price of the models Did the Daemonettes get an attack increase, or are you getting the 90 attacks with a buff somewhere? I drew similar conclusions about how Slaanesh was going to play from what I heard, so good to see this is the case. I think the issue will be the same - getting into combat as quickly as possible is essential and the movement buff from advancing + characters will play a large part. Then it's about clever management and use of Stratagems, along with enemies potentially withdrawing from combat (multi-charges will help, but aren't a fix). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackarmor_redtruth Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 Attack base +1A for Graceful Killers (=> 20 unit size), part of their basic rules listed in their entry and same as Index. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Ah ok thanks that rule made it to the codex, I thought it hadn't. Would be nice if the requirement was a little lower though :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Also banner for one cp let's you reroll to hit in combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileposter Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 A battalion and a brigade detachment comes to exactly 2k points without trying very hard. Instruments on all Daemonettes, Daemon Prince with Wings and herald in both detachments, a Masque as the third HQ in the Brigade. Seems like a nobrainer setup, and with 15CP it has some nasty deep strike potential. Looks to me like Slaanesh in general lacks some good anti-tank or answers to high-toughness in general... What have you folks been doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 My neighbourhood currently looks like Fenris and I can't get out to go shopping so can some kind person let me know if Icons have changed at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 They do the same thing as before for 10pts :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchairarbiter Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Hi guys! As I am starting Slaanesh I am very torn on how to proceed with the two starter boxes I got! I cannot decide whether to make Exalted Seeker Chariots or just regular Seeker Chariots from the two I have purchased so far. I know the Seeker Chariots can hide behind my units as characters (if they're heralds) but Exalted one just looks like a cool center piece unit! Plus all those juicy attacks... Any help would be appreciated. This is just the start of my Slaanesh force.. I plan on buying another box or two of these starter sets for the seekers + chariots to make some Hellflayers and have seekers in multiples of 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I bought the new Codex today (and had a nice chat with the very friendly manager). Had a cursory flip through the 'dex, and overall I'm liking what I see. The loss of Seeker Heralds kinda sucks, but from what I can tell everything else is pretty brutal. I might mix in some Nurgle Daemons, but honestly I was planning on doing that before 8th dropped, so eh. Also I'm pretty confident we'll get a new Slaanesh release relatively soon. They left Keepers in the Codex so we aren't getting Squatted (though GW seems to have learned their lesson from AoS, so I doubt we'll be seeing Squattings in the future) and they can't just release three out of four plastic Greater Daemons and leave us with the ancient and derpy metal/resin KoS. What I'd like to see is new Heralds ala the Bilepiper and Scrivener, a plastic KoS with alternate weapons and new unique character build, plastic Fiends, and the Masque redone (because even compared to the other Slaanesh Daemons that model looks...well, awful). Given the rumours and fluff hints pointing to Fulgrim, the overall presentation of the 'dex (Slaanesh gets some pretty interesting tidbits, notably that even the other Dark Gods are not immune to his corruption despite his lack of military ascendency) and the fact that GW actually seems to be listening to fans now, I think we can expect SOMETHING soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 New Slaanesh Heralds would be nice for sure. The one on the chariot (which apparently isn't officially a Herald anymor :D ) looks decent but I really don't like the official Slaanesh Herald model on foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchairarbiter Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I bought the new Codex today (and had a nice chat with the very friendly manager). Had a cursory flip through the 'dex, and overall I'm liking what I see. The loss of Seeker Heralds kinda sucks, but from what I can tell everything else is pretty brutal. I might mix in some Nurgle Daemons, but honestly I was planning on doing that before 8th dropped, so eh. Also I'm pretty confident we'll get a new Slaanesh release relatively soon. They left Keepers in the Codex so we aren't getting Squatted (though GW seems to have learned their lesson from AoS, so I doubt we'll be seeing Squattings in the future) and they can't just release three out of four plastic Greater Daemons and leave us with the ancient and derpy metal/resin KoS. What I'd like to see is new Heralds ala the Bilepiper and Scrivener, a plastic KoS with alternate weapons and new unique character build, plastic Fiends, and the Masque redone (because even compared to the other Slaanesh Daemons that model looks...well, awful). Given the rumours and fluff hints pointing to Fulgrim, the overall presentation of the 'dex (Slaanesh gets some pretty interesting tidbits, notably that even the other Dark Gods are not immune to his corruption despite his lack of military ascendency) and the fact that GW actually seems to be listening to fans now, I think we can expect SOMETHING soon. I always find it interesting what models some people like and others don't. I actually really like the way the Masque looks. I just wish she wasn't a unique character. I totally agree on the KOS though. That is the only model in the range that I really cannot stand. I actually prefer the current daemonettes to the other versions I've seen as well. Everyone has different tastes I suppose. :) My biggest issue is making my Daemon Princes more Slaanesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileposter Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 My biggest issue is making my Daemon Princes more Slaanesh. That's where I'm at, model-wise. I love the options in the Daemon Prince kit... but none of them quite say 'Slaanesh as much. Maybe more pincers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 The Masque looks okay-ish imo. Keeper and Fiends are the ones who really NEED an updated model tho :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchairarbiter Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 My biggest issue is making my Daemon Princes more Slaanesh. That's where I'm at, model-wise. I love the options in the Daemon Prince kit... but none of them quite say 'Slaanesh as much. Maybe more pincers! My biggest issue with it is that if I have two they'll look too alike. I want one female, one male Daemon Prince/Princess to fit into that androgynous Slaanesh quality. My plan for one of them is to get my hands on the Bloodwrack Medusa from the Dark Elves set. She normally is just a thing that sits in the Blood Cauldron but it's a perfect sized non-SM Daemon Prince that also looks feminine! Sadly.. all the bits shops are sold out of them! /facepalm The Masque looks okay-ish imo. Keeper and Fiends are the ones who really NEED an updated model tho Totally agree on the Keeper and Fiends. I have found a decent conversion of them that I want to try to replicate but I don't know what torso he used! Supposedly he uses the regular fiend bottom/tail, changes the torso out for a beastmen torso, and the head is from the Dryads kit. I just can't figure out what beastmen he used for the chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Hi guys! As I am starting Slaanesh I am very torn on how to proceed with the two starter boxes I got! I cannot decide whether to make Exalted Seeker Chariots or just regular Seeker Chariots from the two I have purchased so far. I know the Seeker Chariots can hide behind my units as characters (if they're heralds) but Exalted one just looks like a cool center piece unit! Plus all those juicy attacks... Any help would be appreciated. This is just the start of my Slaanesh force.. I plan on buying another box or two of these starter sets for the seekers + chariots to make some Hellflayers and have seekers in multiples of 6. Buy some extra bases and make four Hellflayers or Seeker Chariots and four Heralds on foot. I prefer Hellflayers, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 and they can't just release three out of four plastic Greater Daemons and leave us with the ancient and derpy metal/resin KoS. You should say that to 20+ years old Abaddon mini. Because GW certainly don't mind releasing tons of imperium heroes (looking at you Gathering Storm) for years while the "arch-enemy" now looks like a malformed midget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchairarbiter Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 and they can't just release three out of four plastic Greater Daemons and leave us with the ancient and derpy metal/resin KoS. You should say that to 20+ years old Abaddon mini. Because GW certainly don't mind releasing tons of imperium heroes (looking at you Gathering Storm) for years while the "arch-enemy" now looks like a malformed midget. Something I did notice in the Daemons codex, speaking of models, is the KOS. Every piece of art work for the KOS I remember seeing is of the Forgeworld variant. I didn't see the old KOS in the book. I think that might be an indication of a new model, themed on the Forgeworld one, being on the way?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slan Drakkos Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 and they can't just release three out of four plastic Greater Daemons and leave us with the ancient and derpy metal/resin KoS. You should say that to 20+ years old Abaddon mini.Because GW certainly don't mind releasing tons of imperium heroes (looking at you Gathering Storm) for years while the "arch-enemy" now looks like a malformed midget. Something I did notice in the Daemons codex, speaking of models, is the KOS. Every piece of art work for the KOS I remember seeing is of the Forgeworld variant. I didn't see the old KOS in the book. I think that might be an indication of a new model, themed on the Forgeworld one, being on the way?! there have been rumors that Slaanesh is the next god to get a new line of plastic crack, so it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 New Slaaneshi stuff would tickle me in all the right places and would be a great expansion for my revitalised Tzeentch horde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchairarbiter Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 What does everyone think of modifying the Gryph-Hounds models from AOS to be fiends? I think the base bodies are great... would just need to add a new tail and upper body/head/arms? Or would Centigors maybe work better.... hrm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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