hushrong Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I can wait but I hear the pounding of drums in the background! At least if you get the start collecting scions kit you have scions to use as trophies on your rig and buggies. Maybe secure some up on front mounted poles used for holding captives and blood-bags. Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5155491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 Update: I did have some money today, so when I picked up my Limited Edition of The Lords of Silence, I picked up a Trukk. Sadly, I figured something out looking at the Trukk kit and the War Rig from Fury Road: The extended nose of the War Rig, with the two engines (note the two distinct blowers along the nose) means I'd need a SECOND Trukk kit to extend the frame of the front further. It'll be worth it, but that's really annoying to figure out AFTER the GW store has already closed for the night. Ah well, looks like I'll have to pick up a second one sometime next week. I can wait but I hear the pounding of drums in the background! At least if you get the start collecting scions kit you have scions to use as trophies on your rig and buggies. Maybe secure some up on front mounted poles used for holding captives and blood-bags. Hmm... That is a good idea. Might steal it. Plus, the Commissar comes with a hat, and I totally have to put that on one of the Orks. Maybe the chill Nob who'll feature in the story of the Waagh Rig's origins... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5156856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I like how the War Rig is coming along. Will you add gun turrets to it? (According to one of the stories in 'Mad Max: Fury Road: The Prelude to the Blockbuster Film!', the halved Volkswagen Beetle on the trailer was meant to be a gunner's station.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5156901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 I like how the War Rig is coming along. Will you add gun turrets to it? (According to one of the stories in 'Mad Max: Fury Road: The Prelude to the Blockbuster Film!', the halved Volkswagen Beetle on the trailer was meant to be a gunner's station.) I'm planning on it having guns. Or in this case, gunners, with four Nobs with big shootas on the trailer to defend the recovery vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5156909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I'm planning on it having guns. Or in this case, gunners, with four Nobs with big shootas on the trailer to defend the recovery vehicle. Good ideas. Will the War Rig also serve as a Transport? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5156911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) I'm planning on it having guns. Or in this case, gunners, with four Nobs with big shootas on the trailer to defend the recovery vehicle.Good ideas. Will the War Rig also serve as a Transport? Probably. Might be for Lootas (because it's the Big Boss Mek's recovery vehicle). Edited August 30, 2018 by Gederas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5156922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Loot the idea, my friend! I'd love to see it plus looting is an Ork way of life. Also living trophies on display make the best bragging rights! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5157419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Ahh, the War Rig. It was love at first sight. Also reminds me of the face mask of a marine from this angle. I wish you luck in your mekgineering of that beast and hope you pull it off. Deadass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5157606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Ahh, the War Rig. It was love at first sight. Also reminds me of the face mask of a marine from this angle. I wish you luck in your mekgineering of that beast and hope you pull it off. 100% agreed. Looks like you've set yourself quite the task! Godspeed, man - or maybe more like Gorkspeed? ... I'm sorry. I'll see myself out. hushrong 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5157613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Great to see you doing Nurgle and Orks too Gederas. The War Rig always just feels like the natural conclusion to making Ork Vehicles. It's one of those 'one day' projects. I'm really glad to see you tackling it. I'm looking forward to your progress. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5158338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I intended to post these the other day, but Imgur was crapping the bed I couldn't upload any images to the site; here's some concept art for the War Rig that looks even more orky to me. This one in particular because it almost looks like it has a gob. Bryan Blaire, Krakendoomcool and Gederas 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5158346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Loot the idea, my friend! I'd love to see it plus looting is an Ork way of life. Also living trophies on display make the best bragging rights! Will do! Ahh, the War Rig. It was love at first sight. Also reminds me of the face mask of a marine from this angle. I wish you luck in your mekgineering of that beast and hope you pull it off. I can see it, yeah 100% agreed. Looks like you've set yourself quite the task! Godspeed, man - or maybe more like Gorkspeed? ... I'm sorry. I'll see myself out. Thanks! Great to see you doing Nurgle and Orks too Gederas. The War Rig always just feels like the natural conclusion to making Ork Vehicles. It's one of those 'one day' projects. I'm really glad to see you tackling it. I'm looking forward to your progress. Well, if you looked from the first post, I was doing Nurgle from the get-go But yeah. I intended to post these the other day, but Imgur was crapping the bed I couldn't upload any images to the site; here's some concept art for the War Rig that looks even more orky to me. This one in particular because it almost looks like it has a gob. Oooh, now those are actually quite helpful. That looks cool In other news, I had my first game with my Orks against someone's Necrons (just over 1k) at my FLGS on Wednesday. Went interesting. Turn one, he went first and ran his Tomb Blades and Annihilation Barge up the field. He managed to not kill everything in my front row I then moved my lads up. My first shooting phase: I SHOT THE ANNIHILATION BARGE OFF THE TABLE! A Gretchin (yes, really), the Russian Clown Car of Burnas, and the Kans did the damage in that order. I moved the Deff Dread towards his Praetorians to prepare for a charge. I then assaulted the Tomb Blades, killing two. He backs his Tomb Blades out, and he manages to take the Deff Dread down a peg, but not enough to kill it. Uh-oh. Clown Car then torches the last Tomb Blade. Now on turn 2, he deep-strikes his Deathmarks and kills my Weirdboy. Ah well. Deff Dread proceeds to kill most of the Praetorians. The Killa Kan then ties up the Immortals and the Clown Car kills one of the Warriors squads. Gretchin, Runtherd and the Warboss close in on the Cryptek. What happens to a Cryptek in melee against 10 Grots, a Runtherd and a Megaboss? Pain. The game ends with the Deff Dread dying, blowing up the last Praetorian and taking out some of my Grots. All in all, a fun game. Edited September 8, 2018 by Gederas Honda and hushrong 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5163143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 No new painted/assembled models yet*. But I DID get a message last night from a friend. I'll call him Don Corleone for now, 'cause he made me an offer I cannot refuse right now: Hey, I am currently in possession of a fully unbuilt, new in bag Forge World Greater Brass Scorpion. It came as part of a large trade, but I don’t think I’m gonna use it. Would you be interested? Figured I’d ask before I put it up on eBay or bartertown. So.... There goes my paycheck this week, since I'm picking it up on Friday from him :lol:*well, ones I can show on these forums :lol: Honda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5165638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 Now now. What ever can I do with this..... :D ElDuderino, Honda and Subtle Discord 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5167216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Ready for priming! Now I need to finish her MASSIVE base. That's gonna be fun :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5167873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Why oh why don't I have friends like that:) I'm a bit jealous, hope it's a fun beast to paint! Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5168096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Sweet score Gederas! Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5168698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) Why oh why don't I have friends like that:) I'm a bit jealous, hope it's a fun beast to paint! Trust me, I was super surprised when he asked me that. I immediately jumped on it :lol: And I'm hoping it will be fun to paint too. Because it's one of my Call of Chaos vows :lol: Sweet score Gederas!I know right? In other news, I finally finished the Crimson King I was commissioned to paint by a friend. The fuzzed up primer actually HELPED Magnus, as it gave really nice texture on his skin instead of it being super smooth it now almost looks like actual skin. And finally, I asked for Saturday off. For 40k of 40k One of the people at my FLGS managed to organize a mega-battle. And I'm bringing my Death Guard and Nurgle Daemons. Each player has an 8k point limit, minimum 2k. I threw my hat into the ring. And what am I bringing? This: Superheavy Detachment Lord of War: Mortarion Brigade HQ: Typhus HQ: Daemon Prince (Claw, Sword) HQ: Malignant Plaguecaster Troop: Plague Marines x7 Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Bubotic Axe x2, Mace of Contagion, Flail of Corruption, Power Fist) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Plague Belcher, Blight Launcher) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Power Fist, Plasma Gun) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Power Fist, Plasma Gun) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Power Fist, Plasma Gun) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Power Fist, Plasma Gun) Elite: Noxious Blightbringer Elite: Foul Blightspawn Elite: Biologus Putrifier Elite: Plague Surgeon Elite: Tallyman Elite: Deathshroud Terminators (2 Plaguespurt Guantlets on Champ) FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (2x Plaguespitters) FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (2x Plaguespitters) FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (2x Plaguespitters) HS: Chaos Land Raider (Combi-bolter, Havoc Launcher) HS: Plagueburst Crawler (Plaguespitters, Rothail Volleygun) HS: Predator (Predator Autocannon, Heavy Bolters x2) HS: Predator (Twin-Lascannon, Lascannons x2) Transport: Rhino (Combi-bolter, Havoc Launcher) Vanguard Detachment: HQ: Lord of Contagion (Manreaper) HQ: Lord of Contation (Plaguereaper) Elite: Blightlord Terminators x5 (x4 Combi-Plasma, x2 Bubotic Axe, x2 Balesword, Flail of Corruption) Elite: Helbrute (Helbrute Plasma Cannon, Helbrute Fist) Elite: Helbrute (2x Helbrute Fist, Heavy Flamers x2) Outrider HQ: Daemon Prince of Nurgle (wings, 2x Talons) FA: Myphitic Blight-Haulers x3 FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (2x Plaguespitters) FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (Fleshmower) Battalion (Daemons) HQ: Rotigus HQ: Epidemius HQ: Sloppity Bilepiper Troop: Plaguebringers x10 (Icon, Instrument) Troop: Nurglings x3 Troop: Nurglings x3 FA:Plague Drones x6 (Icon, Instrument) HS: Soul Grinder (Sword) Total: 22 Command Points 6692 points 135 models No poxwalkers in the list because of these reasons: 1: I don't have all of them built 2: While I could fit the two detachments of Battalions, I didn't want to bring an extra TWO-HUNDRED AND TWENTY MODELS 3: I didn't want to out-horde the Tyranids player by 100 models :lol: Edited September 20, 2018 by Gederas Honda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5169687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) Man, it's been too long. I've been.... somewhat productive? Well, I've gotten one model of my Call of Chaos vow done, and I'm nearly half done with my Brass Scorpion. I say somewhat because I got super into working on my Deathwatch, been working on them a lot, usually when I'm not painting. Speaking of painting, here's the current status of the CoC vow: The Brass Scorpion: She's about 45% done in these pictures. I'm working on the body plates now, and after I finish her, I'll take a break and work on some of the other models in my vow next. And Khrogar is finally finished. It only took me since February I'll have better pictures of him on Friday. He's also been based since I took those pictures Edited October 11, 2018 by Gederas Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5171631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoras Bitz Box Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Oh man, Tackling the Brass Scorpion! I love that model, my friend has one but its not painted (like most of his stuff... yet... hopefully ). Also cool to see you taking on Magnus, great job... I dont have him yet but it seems like a pretty intimidating model to do well. Impressive efforts man, this is really helping me to try and get my mojo back after not hobbying for like... 6 weeks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5173165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Oh man, Tackling the Brass Scorpion! I love that model, my friend has one but its not painted (like most of his stuff... yet... hopefully ). Also cool to see you taking on Magnus, great job... I dont have him yet but it seems like a pretty intimidating model to do well. Impressive efforts man, this is really helping me to try and get my mojo back after not hobbying for like... 6 weeks. Inform your friend to REALLY scrub the deep recesses of the Brass Scorpion. I thought I did, and ended up missing mold release agent in some of them. Thankfully it's in an area that will never be seen during normal gameplay (and if it is seen, that means someone will have had to broken it off the base and flipped it over. At that point, I would have already thrown them out the door ) And thanks for the compliment on Magnus! People's feedback means a lot to me, especially since I tend to always think my painting ability is crap. Now. I've gotten a plan for my Orks (and I'm probably going to start a log in the Orks forum), which involves this guy. Throgg, King of Trolls from Warhammer Fantasy (and also my FAVORITE model Games Workshop has EVER produced, period): http://whfb.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/1/13/Throgg.jpg I ordred two, and I'm going to turn one into a Bad Moons Megaboss. I wasn't sure on how large he is, but I do know he comes with a 60mm base (same as a Dreadnought and the AoS Megaboss). Then in Grotsmasha's challenge, BCK posted this helpful size comparison: If you need a comparison, I have a Throgg model, which is how I knew what parts he was in. Does this help for a size comparison? .... Now I need to figure out how in Gork & Mork's name I'm going to armour that monster Anyone got ideas? :lol: Edited October 13, 2018 by Gederas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5173295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 .... Now I need to figure out how in Gork & Mork's name I'm going to armour that monster Anyone got ideas? If you have spare Dreadnought parts pr simmiar in your bits box then that could work, or just go sreight for plasticard to make it look suitably orky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5173307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 .... Now I need to figure out how in Gork & Mork's name I'm going to armour that monster Anyone got ideas? If you have spare Dreadnought parts pr simmiar in your bits box then that could work, or just go sreight for plasticard to make it look suitably orky. Don't yet have spare Dreadnought parts, but I am getting another Dreadnought soon. Also, so. Saturday the 22nd of September at 12pm Eastern Standard time marked the 1st annual 40k of 40k at my FLGS (technically we hit FIFTY-EIGHT THOUSAND instead of 40,000 points). The armies: 1: Adeptus Mechanicus with Knights 2: Grey Knights 3: Tyranids 4: Space Wolves and Knights 5: Adeptus Custodes and Knights 6 & 7: Two separate forces of Necrons 8: Krieg and Imperial Guard 9: Eldar 10: Death Guard and Nurgle Daemons (me) My list was as such: Superheavy Auxiliary Detachment: Lord of War: MortarionBrigade: HQ: Typhus HQ: Daemon Prince (Claw, Sword) HQ: Malignant Plaguecaster Troop: Plague Marines x7 Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Bubotic Axe x2, Mace of Contagion, Flail of Corruption, Power Fist) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Plague Belcher, Blight Launcher) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Power Fist, Plasma Gun) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Power Fist, Plasma Gun) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Power Fist, Plasma Gun) Troop: Plague Marines x7 (Power Fist, Plasma Gun) Elite: Noxious Blightbringer Elite: Foul Blightspawn Elite: Biologus Putrifier Elite: Plague Surgeon Elite: Tallyman Elite: Deathshroud Terminators (2 Plaguespurt Guantlets on Champ) FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (2x Plaguespitters) FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (2x Plaguespitters) FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (2x Plaguespitters) HS: Chaos Land Raider (Combi-bolter, Havoc Launcher) HS: Plagueburst Crawler (Plaguespitters, Rothail Volleygun) HS: Predator (Predator Autocannon, Heavy Bolters x2) HS: Predator (Twin-Lascannon, Lascannons x2) Transport: Rhino (Combi-bolter, Havoc Launcher) Vanguard Detachment: HQ: Lord of Contagion (Manreaper) HQ: Lord of Contation (Plaguereaper) Elite: Blightlord Terminators x5 (x4 Combi-Plasma, x2 Bubotic Axe, x2 Balesword, Flail of Corruption) Elite: Helbrute (Helbrute Plasma Cannon, Helbrute Fist) Elite: Helbrute (2x Helbrute Fist, Heavy Flamers x2) Outrider Detachment: HQ: Daemon Prince of Nurgle (wings, 2x Talons) FA: Myphitic Blight-Haulers x3 FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (2x Plaguespitters) FA: Foetid Bloat Drone (Fleshmower) Battalion (Daemons): HQ: Rotigus HQ: Epidemius HQ: Sloppity Bilepiper Troop: Plaguebringers x10 (Icon, Instrument) Troop: Nurglings x3 Troop: Nurglings x3 FA:Plague Drones x6 (Icon, Instrument) HS: Soul Grinder (Sword) Total: 22 Command Points 6692 points 135 models The Sons of Barbarus and Nurgle's Daemons began their battle deployed between the Knights of Titan, Tanks of Krieg and the Wolves of Fenris. The beginning was frantic and sketchy, and despite the loss of their Primarch, the Death Guard continued on. Perhaps now seeking vengeance for Mortarion's banishment by the Wulfen. The Eldar's titan was slain by the Grey Knights, it exploding collapse causing a chain reaction of detonations in the Grey Knights and Adeptus Mechanicus' lines, heavily damaging the Predator Destructor and a Rhino of the Death Guard. The Tyranids managed to slay the Soul Grinder, but in destroying it, the Soul Grinder's detonation took the Trygon with it. By the end of the battle, only the Necrons, Eldar, Tyranids and the Death Guard, now lead by Rotigus and Epidemius remained. Due to the disgusting resilience of Nurgle's chosen sons and his daemons, they managed to win the victory. Final standings: 1 - Death Guard and Nurgle Daemons (193 Points) 2 - Tyranids (171 Points) 3 - Eldar (79 Points) 4 - Necrons 1 (18 Points) 5 - Adeptus Custodes and Knights (Retired) 6 - Space Wolves and Knights (Retired) 7 - Necrons 2 (Retired) 8 - Adeptus Mechanicus with Knights (Tabled) 9 - Grey Knights (Retired) <and would have won if he stayed> 10 - Krieg & Imperial Guard (Retired) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5173705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 And the rest of the images from the game: It was fun, but we all agreed:8k was WAAAAY too much for a max limit. Especially with a Tyranid player there. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5173707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Man, triple post? Wow, I'm unpopular tonight In any case, here's the FULLY finished Khrogar: He is INCREDIBLY difficult to get good photos of due to the Mechatendrils. Also: Brass Scorpion is now 60% done. All that's left is the legs: Also, figured out the Power Klaw situation for my Throggboss. I had a spare Defiler Claw thanks to the Soul Grinder only using one. The boy is for scale: Edited October 15, 2018 by Gederas Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345433-gederas-forge-resurrection-40k-world-eaters-30k-ultramarines-pg-35/page/7/#findComment-5173879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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