Today in Titanicus I...

[Fajita Fan]

Well my printer was acting up so I’m printing that to test it., Warlord height is about as big as my printer will go but point taken. We don’t have any of those within hundreds of miles of DC.

[blackbabyjesus]

Titanicus is '6mm scale', epic space marines fit perfectly on the platform on the back of a warlord. 8mm scaled space marines would be much too large.

 

The 8mm scale thing has been going round for ages but the size of the models just doesn't match.

[Doctor Perils]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/08/8th-aug-adeptus-titanicus-war-on-a-new-scalegw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-1/

 

Chris Drew from the Specialist Games team is the man responsible for turning the huge Warhammer 40,000 models into their 8mm scale counterparts

Officially 8mm according to WC

[Sherrypie]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/08/8th-aug-adeptus-titanicus-war-on-a-new-scalegw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-1/

 

Chris Drew from the Specialist Games team is the man responsible for turning the huge Warhammer 40,000 models into their 8mm scale counterparts

Officially 8mm according to WC

 

 

Being written wrong in an article by a person not too concerned with the thing does not a truth make. The sculptors have stated they used 1/4 of 40k models as a guide, which would be 7 mm in scale, but 40k has always been wonky with internal scaling. Measurements on the AT models end up about 1:270, where a normal 180 cm person is roughly ~6.5 mm. The only GW statement of merit is "we made some mock-ups and if we'd make infantry, marines would look nice being about 8 mm tall." Marines aren't normal humans nor a measure of scale.

 

8 mm statement is flat out wrong, please let it die as the misunderstanding it always was. As has been pointed all over the internet for the last year, old 6 mm miniatures match up pretty much perfectly with AT stuff (like the backdoor and railings of the Warlord or the small doors in Civitas buildings). While GW plays fast and loose with scales, AT is "heroic 6 mm" more than anything else.

[Doctor Perils]

Fair enough :)

[Fajita Fan]

6mm regular infantry line up but marines are much bigger than regular humans. I still can’t believe AT and AI share a scale because the cockpits are huuuge.

 

I started out trying to line up the scale by looking at pictures of 40k models. I wish I had a reference that said “a Rhino is one Warhound shin long” or “Landraider is one Warlord femur long” so I keep things close.

 

Either way I think 6mm looks fine next to our titans but when Epic is rereleased someday those models will be huge.

[Mandragola]

Today I had another serious think about painting up some titans as Legio Fureans. I drew up a 1750 point Regia maniple (featuring Iben Faruq and a lot of hunting auspexes) that looks quite fun to play. Very tempted to build it now.

[Sherrypie]

Have you considered something else than flames, Mandragola :D

 

Faruq is a pretty rough fellow, had the pleasure of losing one Warlord to their guns before crushing him to the ground. Fureans get pretty nasty with their targeters.

[Mandragola]

I’ve definitely considered a non-flame-based colour scheme. I’ve now painted quite a lot of flames and am getting a bit tired of it. Rather than Mortis with Iben Faruk I’ve been thinking of Mortis with Penumbral reaper.

 

There’s absolutely no rush to decide. My hobby time at the moment is being spent on my Crimson Fists, a brigade of which I need for the 40kGT finals in January. And then I need to get my Astorum guys (and probably a few knights) ready for The Legio Walks in Feb.

 

So I won’t be doing any traitor titans for months - or at least I shouldn’t be. But I can still play around with lists in the meantime!

Edited November 28, 2019 by Mandragola

[Fajita Fan]

Where is our lists thread?  And which weapon do you think I should use to represent the Ember Wolves ursas claws?  I'm thinking the flamer, being a template weapon, is appropriate to represent something on a chain but that means equipping all of my Warhounds with flamers rather than megabolters.

 

2000:

 

 

Warhound

Turbolaser Flamer  

 

Warhound

Turbolaser Flamer  

 

Warhound

Plasma Flamer  

 

Warhound

Plasma Flamer  

 

Warhound

Megabolter Flamer  

 

Warhound

Megabolter Flamer  

 

Warhound

Megabolter Flamer  

 

Acastus Scion

Conversion  

 

Acastus Scion

Conversion  

 

Acastus Scion

Conversion  

 

2 Cerastus lancers

Edited November 28, 2019 by Fajita Fan

[Mandragola]

Honestly I'd just wait to see the actual rules for the claws, not try to represent them with flamers - which are pretty terrible in my opinion. That list might be quite fun to play I guess, and you could always magnetise the flamers for when the real claws turn up.

[Fajita Fan]

Oh I magnetize all my guns, this is just a conversion opportunity.  Gameplay wise having the megabolter or laser blaster represent the claw is probably a safer bet as I could see every Warhound in an all Warhound list being equipped with one.  Leaning towards the bolter so I can hit shields.  

[Sherrypie]

Eh, I rate flamers as support tools on twinferno Hounds. Autohits are surprisingly good when applied well.

 

That said, I agree the claws are too different from the other options to feel nice as counts-as. If they had access to melta weaponry with singular, devastating shots, that would be nice while waiting, but eventually I'd love to see short ranged grappling guns that would combine Melee and Quake traits in an interesting fashion: something that hits well, punches nicely through as a single shot and allows wolf packs to snare their prey.

[Fajita Fan]

Well it should reduce movement and scale by how many Warhounds made a Coordinated Strike, right?  I should playtest some rules.  I have 3 Warhounds built and primed Leadbelcher, anyone got ideas how I can paint them?  Ember Wolves don't really have official art that I've seen so I can kinda do whatever and I'm not good at creative schemes.  I thought dull gray with little flecks of red, orange, and yellow like embers floating in the wind would be cool but I'm not what you'd call a talented painter. 

 

I started another of the Warlord-sized cooling towers at work when I went by there this morning but in TinkerCAD I've scaled it up and cut it in half so it'll be 260mm tall and 153mm square, that's the biggest footprint I can do then print both pieces and superglue them on top of one another.  It will be a taller ,narrower cooling tower than the typical squat look but my printer is sadly too small.

Edited November 28, 2019 by Fajita Fan

[Fajita Fan]

I've got a pair of Hoth shield generators sliced and ready to print to act as dynamos.  

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1174989

[Mendi Warrior]

I have 3 Warhounds built and primed Leadbelcher, anyone got ideas how I can paint them?  Ember Wolves don't really have official art that I've seen so I can kinda do whatever and I'm not good at creative schemes.  I thought dull gray with little flecks of red, orange, and yellow like embers floating in the wind would be cool but I'm not what you'd call a talented painter.

 

Well, colours as described in the wiki are "dark red trimmed with iron, decorated with embers and cracked lava designs" https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Legio_Audax

 

There are a few guys who have painted Ember Wolves warhounds (40K size) with pictures on the internet

Look for Legio Audax Syrgalah https://www.flickr.com/photos/89191953@N05/with/22559877012/ (the gallery seems to show 2 pictures only, there are more, try a google search, on flickr, Pinterest they seem to go to at least n°16)

On Twitter there is a hashtag "firetheursasclaws" with a cool magma effect

Another take http://studio.awakenrealms.com/galleries/ember-wolves-warhound-titan/

Also worth checking, khornetitanicus on instagram, quite a few cool conversions and some Ember Wolves warhounds.

 

For magma effect, apart from the typical lava images you can see online, there is one specific blog I put in my favourites: https://prometianpainting.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/tutorial-molten-skin/ (there are also tutorials for lava bases). I love what he did.

 

From the short Ember Wolves extract I read I remember the way weapons are organised is quite rigid, so keep that in mind. Some ideas for ursus claws: https://adeptus-dad.github.io/2019/04/18/ursus-printed.html

 

I hope this helps. Let us know what you come up with!

 

Ember Wolves are on my list as well and I hope we'll see a dedicated plastic set in the future, with ursus claws and heavier armour plates (not holding my breath though).

[Burni]

My FW Warlord carapace weapons just arrived! Casts look good (though the plastic) but now I have to hand them over the missus so they can go under the tree...

[Reyner]

My FW Warlord carapace weapons just arrived! Casts look good (though the plastic) but now I have to hand them over the missus so they can go under the tree...

That's a good idea! My wife was asking me what I wanted but had no clue carapace Gatling blasters for Christmas yay!

 

And I have made progress on deciding on my Traitor Legio... The current front runners are Legio Tempestus with their nice transfer sheet and upgradable laser weapons and lovely chance to shoot back at something that kills them. Thinking very bright silver instead of white and a nice deep blue. No idea how to play them or make the most of their rules though.

Edited November 29, 2019 by Reyner

[Mandragola]

I generally take the view that my girlfriend doesn't need to know what I spend on toys. I'm happy for people whose partners are more supportive of their hobby.

 

That said, I get to have my guns sooner, without waiting for Christmas. Hooray!

 

...except that my order is still "pending" with FW. No guns for me yet. Boo!

[Robbienw]

Mine still says pending online, but my order arrived this morning, they don't always update the order status in time so you may still get them today :D

[Burni]

I generally take the view that my girlfriend doesn't need to know what I spend on toys. I'm happy for people whose partners are more supportive of their hobby.

 

That said, I get to have my guns sooner, without waiting for Christmas. Hooray!

 

...except that my order is still "pending" with FW. No guns for me yet. Boo!

Oh I buy them and the invoice doesn’t need to be wrapped...

[Mandragola]

Mine still says pending online, but my order arrived this morning, they don't always update the order status in time so you may still get them today

 

You were right, box just arrived. All the dakka is mine!

 

Edit: this may affect my plans to spend as much of the weekend as possible painting Crimson Fists. Oh well.

Edited November 29, 2019 by Mandragola

[Fajita Fan]

 

 

I have 3 Warhounds built and primed Leadbelcher, anyone got ideas how I can paint them? Ember Wolves don't really have official art that I've seen so I can kinda do whatever and I'm not good at creative schemes. I thought dull gray with little flecks of red, orange, and yellow like embers floating in the wind would be cool but I'm not what you'd call a talented painter.

Well, colours as described in the wiki are "dark red trimmed with iron, decorated with embers and cracked lava designs" https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Legio_Audax

 

There are a few guys who have painted Ember Wolves warhounds (40K size) with pictures on the internet

Look for Legio Audax Syrgalah https://www.flickr.com/photos/89191953@N05/with/22559877012/ (the gallery seems to show 2 pictures only, there are more, try a google search, on flickr, Pinterest they seem to go to at least n°16)

On Twitter there is a hashtag "firetheursasclaws" with a cool magma effect

Another take http://studio.awakenrealms.com/galleries/ember-wolves-warhound-titan/

Also worth checking, khornetitanicus on instagram, quite a few cool conversions and some Ember Wolves warhounds.

 

For magma effect, apart from the typical lava images you can see online, there is one specific blog I put in my favourites: https://prometianpainting.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/tutorial-molten-skin/ (there are also tutorials for lava bases). I love what he did.

 

From the short Ember Wolves extract I read I remember the way weapons are organised is quite rigid, so keep that in mind. Some ideas for ursus claws: https://adeptus-dad.github.io/2019/04/18/ursus-printed.html

 

I hope this helps. Let us know what you come up with!

 

Ember Wolves are on my list as well and I hope we'll see a dedicated plastic set in the future, with ursus claws and heavier armour plates (not holding my breath though).

I had seen a description on a wiki but no official art, I love that lava effect though. I had given thought to cracked lava but I don’t think I have the skill or stead hands for it. I have a few extra Reaver bits so maybe I can experiment and see what happens.

 

I read that short story too and I don’t think there’s a specific arm they all carry their harpoon on but I wanted a weapon that was fluffy and useful so I guess the flamer rules are the former but no so much the latter. I guess I can just save some points and shamelessly bring Acastus knights. :D

[Mandragola]

What you should do is what I should also do: wait and see what the next book is and then make a decision.

 

Both of us have tons of stuff in progress. We ought to try and finish things, not start new ones. 

 

Unfortunately, that applies to every wargamer in history. Not many manage it!

[Sherrypie]

*insert personally attacked meme here*

 

Oe, I'm reasonably sure I painted more this year than I built for completely unrelated projects... Though I might have bought more :P