BitsHammer Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Rules for cover come out tomorrow, which might change your mind. And it's not like MSU Crusader spam wasn't a meta in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Rules for cover come out tomorrow, which might change your mind. And it's not like MSU Crusader spam wasn't a meta in the past. There was a point to it then though. With less weapon options, it isn't really the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Rules for cover come out tomorrow, which might change your mind. And it's not like MSU Crusader spam wasn't a meta in the past. There was a point to it then though. With less weapon options, it isn't really the same.I just don't agree with the idea that all is doom and gloom already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I mean, actual template rules didn't kill big Crusader squads in previous editions. I don't think new blast rules are going to kill them now. The problem with big Crusader squads in 8e has been that they simply aren't good in the first place, especially now that they cost more than Tacticals for no reason. If point changes make them more competitive with Intercessors and morale changes don't punish big squads anymore, I'd happily field a squad of 20, even against blast weapons. If somebody wants to let me allocate their d3-damage battle cannon shots to my Neophytes, more power to them. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Me neither. I'm just saying that that particular scheme had run its course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Basically the Silent King has 32 wounds at T7 and T8, that regenerate, and has a 4+ invul, and his cost is 340 points. He also has an aura that combines Guilliman and Abaddon's abilities whist boosting regeneration for units around him. Wow. Deceiver should never have given him that many wounds! No wonder the C'tan got beaten! (A fluff crime in my eyes... but beside the point!) he has just 16 wounds and the monolith/shields (whatever they are) each have 8 Gonna have to run 5 + 5 Crusader Squads in 9e https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/10/having-a-blastgw-homepage-post-1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Rules for cover come out tomorrow, which might change your mind. And it's not like MSU Crusader spam wasn't a meta in the past. Moridan glory did. ( not that bad as i heard, but not that successful for placings like first or secound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Thinking about it, Dreadnoughts are going to benefit a lot from the new Heavy weapon rules. No sacrifice of shooting capability whilst still moving up at full speed to smash things with their CCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendo Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Thinking about it, Dreadnoughts are going to benefit a lot from the new Heavy weapon rules. No sacrifice of shooting capability whilst still moving up at full speed to smash things with their CCW. Venerable at 2+, Las and Fist seems very good now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 but honestly - normal dreads are not benefit like the (already) better dreads do. There will be no difference.If you want to play a dread, then take the good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 but honestly - normal dreads are not benefit like the (already) better dreads do. There will be no difference.If you want to play a dread, then take the good ones. The FW dreads will change when they re-release Imperial Armour. We don't know how - but we can say for sure that Dreads of all flavours are buffed by the Heavy weapon change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 With the change for heavy weapons and vehicles I think Redemptors will get to see more light, specially the plasma variant since it can now move and fire without overheating instantly, of course it will depend on their points but overall Dreads just got better even if they got like a 20pt increase across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalMittermeier Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) the new terrain rules very much remind me of 4th edition's "terrain size" rule, where size 3 terrain blocked LoS etc. depending how this is implemented, it indeed may help assault armies a lot. a terrain with lots of ruins, in particular, would mean HELL for a gunline. and it makes sense; urban warfare in real life is dominated by pistols and carbines, compact weapons, and even a small ammount of axes have made an appearance for urban warfare in iraq and afghanistan. lets see how TOs react. Edited June 12, 2020 by MarshalMittermeier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 4th edition got the absolutly best terrain rules. I think GW improved it a lot in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The new Marshal model has three heads! Bare, Crusader style and crusader style with raised faceplate!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Think i might give the raised face plate to one of the blade guard... depends on how it looks up close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Either way, it means one extra crusader Primaris helm for the bits box!Shame about the lack of BT transfers on the new sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Surprised it wasn't UM only Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I need to see the sprue again for the Chaplain and Judiciar. I want to know if there are helmet options. I don't like the Judiciar's at all. I also refuse to kit out a BT Chaplain in a bare helm, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Surprised it wasn't UM only It's basically all of the chapters with books which didn't have their own sheet. So none of the chapters which have upgrade kit transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I saw space wolves, blood angels, dark angels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Yeah, but those upgrade kits didn't have transfer sheets. Whereas the Salamanders, Iron Hands, Raven Guard and Fists upgrade kits came with Transfer Sheets as well as bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Jes just described the robes as 'surcoats' not tabards. That may explain the new approach to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Yeah, but those upgrade kits didn't have transfer sheets. Whereas the Salamanders, Iron Hands, Raven Guard and Fists upgrade kits came with Transfer Sheets as well as bits. Hmm I know the transfer sheet exists... I have a blood angel one... but I realize i got it from a Blood Angel Intercessor kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Jes just described the robes as 'surcoats' not tabards. That may explain the new approach to them. I mean, the Judicar is specifically wearing a surcoat. Everyone else.... No idea what they're wearing, but those aren't surcoats :lol: The Bladeguard Ancient is wearing what looks like a modified surcoat though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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