Necronaut Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 You've all been slated for posthumous gene-seed removal -- why are you working so hard to prolong the inevitable? ;) Mazer Rackham, Trokair and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Fate point to top off the hitpoints for Odysseus 1d10 = +9 Necronaut, Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Anyone have any potent squad modes to throw up? Immovable Defense or Dig In for instance? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I'm out of support range - sorry! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Post updated: https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370180-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-episode-iii/?do=findComment&comment=5845502 Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Vesalius has a rather useful one (AS IF YOU LOT DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THIS):  Raven Guard attack Pattern: Exploit Weakness Action: Half Action Cost: 4 Sustained: No Effects: The Raven Guard use precise application of force to cripple their enemy. The squad works in concert to exploit the foe’s weaknesses and deliver potent, strategic blows. As a Half Action, any Battle-Brother in Support Range may single out an enemy. Until the beginning of that Battle-Brother’s next turn, all members of the Kill-team may re-roll damage rolls against that target (the second result must be taken). Only one target may be singled out at a time.  But I'm waiting to hear back from Lysimachus about something first...  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Is that what Hypno-Gogic Instruction is for? Getting Iron Gods to use other Chapters Squad Modes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Necronaut said: Vesalius has a rather useful one (AS IF YOU LOT DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THIS): The generic strongpoint pattern is 3 cohesion and sustained - it has the single target damage rerolls, but also grants +20 to hit and the option to trade reactions for more shots. Exploit weakness almost seems like a typo, as if it should be a sustained ability that takes a half action to switch targets. But I don't think an errata was ever released for the later books. Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I agree -- it is an oddly expensive squad mode ability relative to others (not to mention being somewhat redundant as you laid out above). That's about all I have to offer of note. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 46 minutes ago, A.T. said: The generic strongpoint pattern is 3 cohesion and sustained - it has the single target damage rerolls, but also grants +20 to hit and the option to trade reactions for more shots.  42 minutes ago, Necronaut said: I agree -- it is an oddly expensive squad mode ability relative to others (not to mention being somewhat redundant as you laid out above). That's about all I have to offer of note. The thing you have to bear in mind is that Strongpoint is a Full Action, and you must nominate either yourself or another as the Centre. The centre cannot move, and if they are forced to, the SQD mode ends. It cannot be improved on either. It is 1 point of Cohesion less, and is Sustained, true - but what Exploit Weakness does is that it lets you move, and at Rank 5, you can move/shoot/wipe your arse, and still hand one bad guy theirs. Strongpoint is for when you set up a heavy bolter in cover, with a killing field of fire. Exploit Weakness gets you there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I'm thinking that with a bit of Roleplay - Draak can get the squad to believe that they have The Strength of Iron. Mazer Rackham and Necronaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 It's worth noting that you're currently down to 1 CP... but I did say that I'd reward team building, which getting to the bridge and doing all of that stuff probably would contribute to team morale? So I will reward you with +3CP for a current total to start the fight of 4! Necronaut, Machine God, Mazer Rackham and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: It's worth noting that you're currently down to 1 CP... but I did say that I'd reward team building, which getting to the bridge and doing all of that stuff probably would contribute to team morale? So I will reward you with +3CP for a current total to start the fight of 4! Did not see this before I posted just now, so there is one additional point as I threw one in thinking we were at 1 and in need of some. Lysimachus, Mazer Rackham, Necronaut and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 Very nice rousing post there, MG! I must be feeling very generous this evening as I'm going to reward it with 1 more CP, giving you a total of 6... ...but that's the last one anyone is getting from me going into this fight! Mazer Rackham, Necronaut, Machine God and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Does the Surprise Round count as a combat round? I mean do I have to declare Squad Mode or can I do that on Round 1? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) I think some of you are still in Squad Mode, so those who are don't need to roll. Those who are in Solo can still join too, but need to do a Cohesion test, I think? Â Then it depends on the Squad Mode you want to use, it might be a Free/Half/Full Action? So you could use the Surprise Round to activate it if you want, or do it in Round 1 (Draak is fairly near the top of the Initiative order, so either way you should get it done before the enemy can attack?) Edited July 13, 2022 by Lysimachus Machine God and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Thank you, I think I've got it.  So if I've got it: We tell you our positions when we roll Initiative. Then: We get a Surprise Round and do our actions in Initiative Order. After that we get: Round 1.  Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 Ok, excellent, so I think we've got:  1) Initiative for everyone except Svelk.  2) Everyone is happy with their positions on the map? AT, did you mean you want Odysseus moved south so he's in cover? In the first doorway? And Vesalius won't appear on the map just yet, as he is concealed... somewhere! Again, I just need to check where Svelk is (possibly from previous comments, maglocked ready to drop on the enemy?)  3) Actions for the Surprise Round: Draak, Decimus, Brynjarr and Vesalius are setting Overwatch? Odysseus is activating Force Dome? So again I just need Svelk's action (did you want to set up the Demo Charge somewhere?)  Is that right for everyone? Shout out if its not!  Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Apologies for the double post Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 No worries, mate, good post! Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 there may be enough there to id his chapter Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Black Cohort said: there may be enough there to id his chapter I don't know, I'm baffled - I think you've played that really well. I thought (chapter) and then went no, the name of the comatose Marine seems wrong for that, then I thought (chapter) because of the horrific losses/campaign, but that felt wrong as well. I was erring on Dorn's geneline, but I think I might be barking up the wrong tree.... Well played indeed. Black Cohort and Necronaut 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: 2) Everyone is happy with their positions on the map? AT, did you mean you want Odysseus moved south so he's in cover? In the first doorway? And Vesalius won't appear on the map just yet, as he is concealed... somewhere! Again, I just need to check where Svelk is (possibly from previous comments, maglocked ready to drop on the enemy?) If no-one else is moving forward he'll just take partial cover at the south pillar instead (which is to say moving directly south until he hits a wall) Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Nice post Black Cohort - Looks like Decimus isn't an Imperial Fist but a Crimson Fist a Rynn's World veteran. @Lysimachus - After looking at Defensive Squad Mods I decided to change Draak's action for the Surprise Round. He will spend a Fate Point to raise Cohesion to 7, he will then declare Strongpoint and nominate Odysseus as the Centre Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 Ok, yep that seems like a useful pick! AT, are you happy to be the Centre and pick new targets as and when required? If so, do you still want to be positioned next to the the wall (I'm guessing it's still Ok, don't think you'll need to move?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/118/#findComment-5845849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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