Trokair Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Could I have a quick rundown of how to use a Rhino in this game. What actions are avilable/tests are needed and such. Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5776926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I thought the answer was ram the immolator into the gorge? Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5776947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 That may indeed be something to attempt, I’m just not sure how to get there precisely.   I am also not sure how much space there is on the bridge, and in the melee in front of the rhino is a fellow squad member, who probably would appreciate not being driven of the bridge. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5776949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Radago has a jump-pack -- he'll survive. Machine God and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5776953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Could I have a quick rundown of how to use a Rhino in this game. What actions are avilable/tests are needed and such.  Right then young man *cracks knuckles* Always enjoy a good first driving lesson. Now this is half 40K First Edition and Half RPG, so you roll not to see how well you do, but for how big the explosion is.  A Rhino has three speeds: Stopped (Waiting for granny to cross at the crossing) Tactical Speed - 15m (Carrying breakables, unstable heavy furniture, looking for a space on a car park); and, Cruising Speed - 70 Kph (Late for work, Drag racing at lights against Youths In Hatchbacks) A Rhino gives no Ag Bonuses for driving it. It's a Mehtul Bawks.  Tactical Speed is the only one you need to worry about, and forms the Half-Move Rate. (So a Full Move is 30m)  Normal stuff at Tactical Speed does not usually require a Test, but any risky manoeuvres require one at a starting difficulty of Challenging (+0). All Marines have Drive (Ground Vehicle) as a known skill.  You can do one of these things: Dodge (Ag Test -30 due to Size) but fail by 5 DoF and you crash. Tactical Move (15m - 30m) 5 DoF and crash Go evasive (-10 To Hit per DoS on Test) fail by 5 DoF and... Floor it! (Test at -10, Pass = Full Move, +5m and + 5m per DoS) 5 DoF and... Ramming Speed:  But looking at the situation, you may be unable to do this, since you need to move at least 15m, otherwise it's a gentle "Spill your tea" kind of bump... Lysimachus, Trokair and Necronaut 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5776954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 I'd say you're far enough away to get up ramming Speed against the rear of the Immolator. But we can assume that you'll start slow enough that the characters in CC in front of you have time to get out of the way? Â I think Rites of Battle has the rules for Damage on Ramming attacks, but I can't remember off the top of my head... but you'd be going Front Armour into Rear Armour and the Immo is down to 17 SI points left, so I reckon you'd have a decent shot at taking it out? Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5776966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Edited the Bolter Assault summary post to include Ithan (who I forgot) but didn't do much... Â Also, Mol the Paragon suits give Unnatural Str + T so they're all TB8? (I think C is still unlikely to survive as her Dodge is now used, but I'll just let the others finish off their BA actions before I start rolling SoF's for the Traveller's SAB) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5776983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Edited post to account for TB8. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5776986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 @MR - you should have used Ripley driving the APC in Aliens for ramming speed! Mazer Rackham, Lysimachus and Trokair 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 @MG: just to clarify, by Celestine do you mean the Celestian C or Canoness Theodora, I wasn't 100%? Â (If you meant the Celestian and she gets taken down by the Bolter Assault, I'll transfer the Traveller's SAB to the Canoness?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 @MG: just to clarify, by Celestine do you mean the Celestian C or Canoness Theodora, I wasn't 100%? Â (If you meant the Celestian and she gets taken down by the Bolter Assault, I'll transfer the Traveller's SAB to the Canoness?) @Lysimachus - Sorry, yes at C as she's the only one that Draak could see. I have updated my post. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Perfect, added and rolled SoF, failed so Celestian C is toast. Â Just need Decimus and Odysseus Bolter Assault actions, then I'll go back to Traveller's regular actions (is that OK to transfer his shooting to Theodora, Mol? Or would you prefer to hit the Dominions?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) (oops, wrong thread) Edited December 28, 2021 by A.T. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 @Necro - You don't need to roll for Righteous Fury. Iron Gods characters automatically get it versus Agents of the Imperium. Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 @Necro - You don't need to roll for Righteous Fury. Iron Gods characters automatically get it versus Agents of the Imperium. Yeah I didn't roll to confirm, just for the bonus damage, but thanks for reminding me that I need to keep an eye on that in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I'd say you're far enough away to get up ramming Speed against the rear of the Immolator. But we can assume that you'll start slow enough that the characters in CC in front of you have time to get out of the way? Â I think Rites of Battle has the rules for Damage on Ramming attacks, but I can't remember off the top of my head... but you'd be going Front Armour into Rear Armour and the Immo is down to 17 SI points left, so I reckon you'd have a decent shot at taking it out? So to ram the Immolator I need to roll an Ag -10 test to see if I drive the Rhino well enough to hit. Â A bit of googleing seems to indicate I then do 1d10 + that facings Armour facing (31) damage against the 20 rear Armour of the Immolator. Does this sound right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 sounds like our psyker may need to introduce the Canoness to a force weapon. Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) I really miss playing my (now-deceased) sorcerer from a BC game long ago, who had a nasty habit of regularly one-shotting large, gribbly beasts and other high wound enemies. Edited December 29, 2021 by Necronaut Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 sounds like our psyker may need to introduce the Canoness to a force weapon. Not with rolls of ... 65, 85, 75, 72, 62, and 92 :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Â I'd say you're far enough away to get up ramming Speed against the rear of the Immolator. But we can assume that you'll start slow enough that the characters in CC in front of you have time to get out of the way? Â I think Rites of Battle has the rules for Damage on Ramming attacks, but I can't remember off the top of my head... but you'd be going Front Armour into Rear Armour and the Immo is down to 17 SI points left, so I reckon you'd have a decent shot at taking it out? So to ram the Immolator I need to roll an Ag -10 test to see if I drive the Rhino well enough to hit. Â A bit of googleing seems to indicate I then do 1d10 + that facings Armour facing (31) damage against the 20 rear Armour of the Immolator. Does this sound right? Â Â You have it. Â The important bit to Ramming is that you will move the target object 1m per point of damage you inflict, so as long as you hit it, you're going to shove them 10m+ and potentially send a flaming wreck down into oblivion. Â Still only counts as one... Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 So, erm, failed at ramming. I presume the Rhino still moves forward to some extent.  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Hmm, just a thought but worth a FP reroll? Â Edit: not that it mattered for the first try, but I don't think it's a -10 test, RoB says its Challenging (+0)? Â Otherwise, yep the Rhino will move forward a few metres and stop (With driving tests it seems to be 5DoF causes a crash, so you're OK there at least!). Â Or if you want to try the same thing again next Round, we can say it stalls in place (that way you'll still have a bit of a run up to get enough speed up). Edited December 29, 2021 by Lysimachus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Hmm, just a thought but worth a FP reroll? Â Edit: not that it mattered for the first try, but I don't think it's a -10 test, RoB says its Challenging (+0)? Â Otherwise, yep the Rhino will move forward a few metres and stop (With driving tests it seems to be 5DoF causes a crash, so you're OK there at least!). Â Or if you want to try the same thing again next Round, we can say it stalls in place (that way you'll still have a bit of a run up to get enough speed up). It's a gearbox not a toolbox! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Hmm, just a thought but worth a FP reroll?  Edit: not that it mattered for the first try, but I don't think it's a -10 test, RoB says its Challenging (+0)?  Otherwise, yep the Rhino will move forward a few metres and stop (With driving tests it seems to be 5DoF causes a crash, so you're OK there at least!).  Or if you want to try the same thing again next Round, we can say it stalls in place (that way you'll still have a bit of a run up to get enough speed up).  I had assumed it was a -10 on account of being tricky, it’s a narrow bridge, and there is a friendly to avoid or some such.  However even without that the reroll also failed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 Damn, that's some bad luck... :( Â Round 4, I guess? :D Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/82/#findComment-5777224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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