Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Of course tomorrow at the latest. Else it will be forfeit brother! In other news, my Marshal is nigh on complete. Just some minor transfer work to complete, then the base rim lap of glory! Picts to follow brethren! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibomots Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Vow 2 Complete Redemptor Dreadnought, 185 Pts. <fluff> THUD "What was that? Vox check.. Sol, did you feel that?" "Roger commander, heat scan shows a big guy running up to our pos.. Oh wait.. Is that you Sibo?" "Yes sir, catching up.. right behind you. Lets do this." </fluff> Ready for battle: w/ onslaught gatling cannon: Inside: Closed up, different angle for faction markings. Redemptor Fist w/ Heavy Flamer: Edited January 31, 2022 by sibo Lord Blackwood, templargdt, jaxom and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Praise Be Brothers!My Vow is complete!My Marshal: Crusaders: And for comparison purposes, the original Marshal my mum painted for me when I was a kid: 9x19 Parabellum, Marshal Reinhard, sibomots and 10 others 13 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just letting the decals dry now… :D sibomots and Sword Brother Adelard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Brother Adelard, that Crusader squad is outstanding, very nicely done. I'm envious! Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Vow completed… sibomots, Urkh, Grotsmasha and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Brother Adelard, that Crusader squad is outstanding, very nicely done. I'm envious! Thanks! They took enough time, I bought them in the army box on release day. I've been looking at people with 60 crusader lists and wondering how on earth people get them painted! templargdt 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 As much as it pains me to say it, I'll be needing the Oathbreaker tab. I'm only halfway through the amount of painting I vowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Brother Adelard, that Crusader squad is outstanding, very nicely done. I'm envious! Thanks! They took enough time, I bought them in the army box on release day. I've been looking at people with 60 crusader lists and wondering how on earth people get them painted! Can you pass me that white recipe? I'm terrible at white, and would like to get better at it. As for the sixty man lists, I can only assume they aren't painted, or it's been outsourced to multiple paint for you companies. Edited January 31, 2022 by templargdt Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 All of my white is just Corax white base paint. For the robes, I properly cheated and just used Apothecary White thinned with contrast medium as the wash, which was an experiment I think paid off. I then used White scar to highlight. The pads are just Corax, I think it's a great paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urkh Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 After an all nighter painting, and being very tired, competed vow! Time to sleep! Marshal Reinhard, Brother-Chaplain Kage, TheOneTrueZon and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) sleep is an illusion of the senseslaziness an illusion of the mindnow to paint! Edited February 1, 2022 by noigrim BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 THE TIME IS NIGH BROTHERS! PAINT AND COMPLETE YOUR VOWS! TheOneTrueZon and templargdt 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 BLACK BLŒ FLY, Sword Brother Adelard and templargdt 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 REMEMBER WATER BOI… YOU CANNNNNNN DOIT !!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibomots Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 After an all nighter painting, and being very tired, competed vow! Time to sleep! That is remarkable. I am blown away by the detail and color and BT style used. Your vow was on my list of "I cannot wait to see how it turns out" Worth the wait. Congratulations on the work. templargdt and Urkh 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 As things currently stand: Dangerman is on course for the Seal of the Assault, with three completed vows, and a fourth in the pipeline, yet Lord Blackwood is also on his third, so there may be a joint placing to play for. We should also applaud Dangerman's worthy strategy of multiple small vows, may his modest progress be a lesson to us all Brothers. At the other end of the scale, although Sword Brother Ryan's ambition is, as ever, an inspiration for all of us to dream bigger, he is about to set forth on a penitent crusade, leaving the field open for Lord Blackwood to take the Mantle of Command, but can he complete his final vow in time? We are still yet to identify our judge for the Best in Show, and the people's champion is still to play for. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I think this brings us up to date! -Participants- TheOneTrueZon - VOW ONE: (1x Marshal / 1x EC / 1x Primaris Crusader Squad / 1x Redemptor : 573 points) jaxom - VOW ONE: (1x EC / 1x Castellan / 1x Primaris Crusade Squad / 1x Redemptor Dreadnought: 563 points) - OATHBROKEN BayOkuz - VOW ONE: (1x Marshal / 1x EC / 1x Redemptor / 1x BGVS: 753 points) - NEWS PENDING 9x19 Parabellum - VOW ONE: (1 Primaris Emperor's Champion /1 Primaris Marshal / 1 Primaris Sword Brother / 1 Repulsor Executioner / 1 Redemptor / Bladeguard Veterans: 884) LAST HEARD OF PAINTING A REPULSOR EXECUTIONER... nusphigor - VOW ONE: (1 Marshal / 1 Emperor's Champion / 1 redemptor / 1 Crusader squad / 1 Assault Intercessor squad: 693 points) - OATHBROKEN Lord Blackwood - VOW ONE: (1 Primaris Tech Marine / 1 Primaris Chaplain on Bike / 1 Redemptor Dreadnought / 1 EC / 1 Marshall 5 Blade Guard Veterans / 10 Intercessors Sargent / 1 Assault Intercessor Squad / 3 Eradicators :1390) COMPLETED | VOW TWO: (2x Hammerstrike Storm speeder / 2x Impulsor w Multi Melta / 1x Gladiator Reaper / 1x Gladiator Valliant / 1x Firestrike Servo Turret / 1x 5man Heavy Intercessor Squad Hellstorm / w 1 Hellstorm Heavy Bolter: 1290 points) COMPLETED | VOW THREE (1x Primaris Helbrecht , 1x Primaris Master of the Forge, Bladeguard Veterans x 5, Judiciar w Aurillan Shroud, Vanguard Veteran Squad x 5) - NEWS PENDING ON VOW 3 SkimaskMohawk - VOW ONE: (1 Emperor's Champion, 2 Marshalls, 3 Redemptor Dreadnoughts, 1 Invictor Warsuit, 1 Juidiciar 1 Primaris Chaplain, 1 Assault Intercessor Squad, and 1 Primaris Crusader Squad: 1676pts) - LAST HEARD OF WITH WASHES AND MODELS TO DO ON 24TH ConradToskan - VOW ONE: ( 1 Chaplain of Bike / 1 EC / 1 Crusade Squad / 1 Assault Intercessor Squad: 618 points) - NOTHING HEARD SINCE 10 NOVEMBER Grotsmasha - VOW ONE: ( 1 EC: 100 points) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x Primaris Grimaldus: 140 points) COMPLETED Brother Captain Alberic - VOW ONE: (EC / Marshall / Primaris Chaplain on bike / Primaris Apothecary / Redemptor Dreadnought: 570 points) - VOW COMPLETED 28 JANUARY! Metzombie - VOW ONE: (1x Marshal / 1x Chaplain / 1x EC: 285 Points) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x Primaris Crusader Squad, 1x Primaris SB Squad: 358 points) COMPLETED | VOW THREE (1x Funky Redemptor: 175 points) - VOW COMPLETED 30 JANUARY! SWORD BROTHER RYAN - VOW ONE: (Mt. Everest: 4,005 points) - OATHBROKEN Gederas - VOW ONE: (1x Marshal / EC / Primaris Chaplain / Primaris Chaplain / Primaris Chaplain on Bike / Primaris Crusader Squad: Total 685) - LAST SEEN CHASING CHAPLAINS urkh - VOW ONE (5 man devastator squad / sword brother with chainsword / terminator assault squad / redemptor dreadnought / chaplain with jump pack / 1x Marshal: 700) COMPLETED 31 JANUARY! Zarkkarn - VOW ONE (1x EC / 1x Crusader Squad / 1x Biker Chaplain / 1x Outrider Squad) - LAST HEARD OF LEADING SOME GREY CRUSADERS Brother Adelard - VOW ONE (1x Crusader Squad / 1x Primaris Marshal: 303 points) COMPLETED 30 JANUARY! templargdt - VOW ONE (10x Vanguard Veterans: 304 points) COMPLETED Metic - VOW ONE (1 Primaris EC / 1 Marshal with MC power axe and Auto flamer / 3 Bladeguard Sword Brethren / 1 Primaris Apothecary) - PARTIAL COMPLETION BY 28 NOVEMBER, INCOMMUNICADO SINCE Brother Christopher - VOW ONE ( 1x Marshal / 1x Castellan / 1x Techmarine: 275 points) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x Primaris Helbrecht) COMPLETED Black Blow Fly - VOW ONE (1x EC: 100 points) - COMPLETED 31 JANUARY Crom's Will - VOW ONE (1x EC: 100 points) - COMPLETED 12 JANUARY Brother Kraskor - VOW ONE (1x Judiciar: 85 points) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x HMH 1x Crusader Squad) - COMPLETED 3 JANUARY Reinhard - VOW ONE ( 1x Primaris Marhsal / 1x Primaris Castellan / 1x Prmaris SB Squad: 345 points) COMPLETED Opprobrium - VOW ONE (1x EC: 100 points) - COMPLETED 12 JANUARY The Inquisitor - VOW ONE (1 EC, 1 Marshall, 1 Primaris crusader sqaud, 1 redemptor dred: 563 points) - PARTIAL COMPLETION, OATHBREAKING SEEMED LIKELY 23 JANUARY Dangerman - VOW ONE ( ) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x Primaris Helbrecht) COMPLETED | VOW THREE (1x EC: 100 points) COMPLETED sibo - VOW ONE (1x Crusader Squad) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (Dreadnought: 105) COMPLETED noigrim - VOW ONE (1x Redemptor: 185) COMPLETED SlimothyJ - VOW ONE (Phobos Captain, Reiver Lieutenant, Invictor Warsuit, and Eliminator Squad: 405 points) - NO NEWS SINCE VOW MADE... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibomots Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) I think this brings us up to date! [ ... ] I have been tracking this too. I have slightly different data Update: I got worried I had a bug so I re-read every post in the thread, made printed by hand checklist. I found and fixed these mistakes: 1. Metzombie actually had three vows, not 2. Corrected that mistake. My bad. 2. Dangerman's vows were correct but I had the dates mixed up. Corrected that mistake. Too fast for me ;-) 3. I left The Inquisitor off the list for some reason. ?? Why, I cannot explain. A vow was made, 16-Dec-2021 (463pts) Fixed that too. 4. I mis-read the thread (quotes of quotes threw me off) and accidently gave Grotsmasha 3 vows. Just 2! Corrected. My apologies for the errors. I've corrected them. Edited February 1, 2022 by sibo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 As things currently stand: Dangerman is on course for the Seal of the Assault, with three completed vows, and a fourth in the pipeline, yet Lord Blackwood is also on his third, so there may be a joint placing to play for. We should also applaud Dangerman's worthy strategy of multiple small vows, may his modest progress be a lesson to us all Brothers. At the other end of the scale, although Sword Brother Ryan's ambition is, as ever, an inspiration for all of us to dream bigger, he is about to set forth on a penitent crusade, leaving the field open for Lord Blackwood to take the Mantle of Command, but can he complete his final vow in time? We are still yet to identify our judge for the Best in Show, and the people's champion is still to play for. Pretty sure vow four is all done ;) http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/?p=5789050 Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inquisitor Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Well, I see that I'm partial in completion so I'll post a pic up untl the time I had to shift gears.We lost the initiative, then failed all saving throws against the plague of nurgle. This is a loss brothers, but we shall consolidate and reclaim the ground that was taken! So, here's where everything stands right now. If I had another couple weeks, could have finished. Everyone got sick here, set my schedule back a couple weeks, and recovery time gobbled up chances to finish. Then work would not wait for any vow. I'll probably finish sometime this month. I'll post when I get done! Thanks for running this! Going to FOR SURE participate in any 2022 vows. Was really fun and helpful to get motivated. Edited February 1, 2022 by The Inquisitor TheOneTrueZon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Okay, got it all done No big "all together" shot because the models are all in different places (Emperor's Champion and Crusaders are at my FLGS, the Marshall and Chaplains are at my house) so here's a few images :lol: I would have gotten these painted sooner, but a lot of "fun" happened during the months this event was running from :lol: 9x19 Parabellum, Urkh, TheOneTrueZon and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibomots Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Okay, got it all done [...] No doubt about it, BT finish strong.. Those are really well done. Kudos. Congrats on finishing a hefty vow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I think this brings us up to date! -Participants- TheOneTrueZon - VOW ONE: (1x Marshal / 1x EC / 1x Primaris Crusader Squad / 1x Redemptor : 573 points) jaxom - VOW ONE: (1x EC / 1x Castellan / 1x Primaris Crusade Squad / 1x Redemptor Dreadnought: 563 points) - OATHBROKEN BayOkuz - VOW ONE: (1x Marshal / 1x EC / 1x Redemptor / 1x BGVS: 753 points) - NEWS PENDING 9x19 Parabellum - VOW ONE: (1 Primaris Emperor's Champion /1 Primaris Marshal / 1 Primaris Sword Brother / 1 Repulsor Executioner / 1 Redemptor / Bladeguard Veterans: 884) LAST HEARD OF PAINTING A REPULSOR EXECUTIONER... nusphigor - VOW ONE: (1 Marshal / 1 Emperor's Champion / 1 redemptor / 1 Crusader squad / 1 Assault Intercessor squad: 693 points) - OATHBROKEN Lord Blackwood - VOW ONE: (1 Primaris Tech Marine / 1 Primaris Chaplain on Bike / 1 Redemptor Dreadnought / 1 EC / 1 Marshall 5 Blade Guard Veterans / 10 Intercessors Sargent / 1 Assault Intercessor Squad / 3 Eradicators :1390) COMPLETED | VOW TWO: (2x Hammerstrike Storm speeder / 2x Impulsor w Multi Melta / 1x Gladiator Reaper / 1x Gladiator Valliant / 1x Firestrike Servo Turret / 1x 5man Heavy Intercessor Squad Hellstorm / w 1 Hellstorm Heavy Bolter: 1290 points) COMPLETED | VOW THREE (1x Primaris Helbrecht , 1x Primaris Master of the Forge, Bladeguard Veterans x 5, Judiciar w Aurillan Shroud, Vanguard Veteran Squad x 5) - NEWS PENDING ON VOW 3 SkimaskMohawk - VOW ONE: (1 Emperor's Champion, 2 Marshalls, 3 Redemptor Dreadnoughts, 1 Invictor Warsuit, 1 Juidiciar 1 Primaris Chaplain, 1 Assault Intercessor Squad, and 1 Primaris Crusader Squad: 1676pts) - LAST HEARD OF WITH WASHES AND MODELS TO DO ON 24TH ConradToskan - VOW ONE: ( 1 Chaplain of Bike / 1 EC / 1 Crusade Squad / 1 Assault Intercessor Squad: 618 points) - NOTHING HEARD SINCE 10 NOVEMBER Grotsmasha - VOW ONE: ( 1 EC: 100 points) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x Primaris Grimaldus: 140 points) COMPLETED Brother Captain Alberic - VOW ONE: (EC / Marshall / Primaris Chaplain on bike / Primaris Apothecary / Redemptor Dreadnought: 570 points) - VOW COMPLETED 28 JANUARY! Metzombie - VOW ONE: (1x Marshal / 1x Chaplain / 1x EC: 285 Points) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x Primaris Crusader Squad, 1x Primaris SB Squad: 358 points) COMPLETED | VOW THREE (1x Funky Redemptor: 175 points) - VOW COMPLETED 30 JANUARY! SWORD BROTHER RYAN - VOW ONE: (Mt. Everest: 4,005 points) - OATHBROKEN Gederas - VOW ONE: (1x Marshal / EC / Primaris Chaplain / Primaris Chaplain / Primaris Chaplain on Bike / Primaris Crusader Squad: Total 685) - LAST SEEN CHASING CHAPLAINS urkh - VOW ONE (5 man devastator squad / sword brother with chainsword / terminator assault squad / redemptor dreadnought / chaplain with jump pack / 1x Marshal: 700) COMPLETED 31 JANUARY! Zarkkarn - VOW ONE (1x EC / 1x Crusader Squad / 1x Biker Chaplain / 1x Outrider Squad) - LAST HEARD OF LEADING SOME GREY CRUSADERS Brother Adelard - VOW ONE (1x Crusader Squad / 1x Primaris Marshal: 303 points) COMPLETED 30 JANUARY! templargdt - VOW ONE (10x Vanguard Veterans: 304 points) COMPLETED Metic - VOW ONE (1 Primaris EC / 1 Marshal with MC power axe and Auto flamer / 3 Bladeguard Sword Brethren / 1 Primaris Apothecary) - PARTIAL COMPLETION BY 28 NOVEMBER, INCOMMUNICADO SINCE Brother Christopher - VOW ONE ( 1x Marshal / 1x Castellan / 1x Techmarine: 275 points) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x Primaris Helbrecht) COMPLETED Black Blow Fly - VOW ONE (1x EC: 100 points) - COMPLETED 31 JANUARY Crom's Will - VOW ONE (1x EC: 100 points) - COMPLETED 12 JANUARY Brother Kraskor - VOW ONE (1x Judiciar: 85 points) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x HMH 1x Crusader Squad) - COMPLETED 3 JANUARY Reinhard - VOW ONE ( 1x Primaris Marhsal / 1x Primaris Castellan / 1x Prmaris SB Squad: 345 points) COMPLETED Opprobrium - VOW ONE (1x EC: 100 points) - COMPLETED 12 JANUARY The Inquisitor - VOW ONE (1 EC, 1 Marshall, 1 Primaris crusader sqaud, 1 redemptor dred: 563 points) - PARTIAL COMPLETION, OATHBREAKING SEEMED LIKELY 23 JANUARY Dangerman - VOW ONE ( ) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (1x Primaris Helbrecht) COMPLETED | VOW THREE (1x EC: 100 points) COMPLETED sibo - VOW ONE (1x Crusader Squad) COMPLETED | VOW TWO (Dreadnought: 105) COMPLETED noigrim - VOW ONE (1x Redemptor: 185) COMPLETED SlimothyJ - VOW ONE (Phobos Captain, Reiver Lieutenant, Invictor Warsuit, and Eliminator Squad: 405 points) - NO NEWS SINCE VOW MADE... BROTHER YOU ARE A TRUE METAL BEAST AND I DONT SAY THAT LIGHTLY…… EXALT !!!!!!!!! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Vow Complete: Bladeguard Veterans: Marshall, Emperor's Champ and Sword Brethren: Redemptor Dreadnought with Bonus Chaplain on Bike: And last but not least the centerpiece of my army, Repulsor Executioner: sibomots, Sword Brother Adelard, Opprobrium and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372170-knightfall-indomitus-20212022/page/9/#findComment-5791984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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