[DW] The Desolation of Innocence (RPG OOC Thread)

[Mazer Rackham]

47 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

The short answer is yes, because you forfeit the Reaction of your next turn.  The 'Turn' resets as the 'Round' completes.

This is RAW and RAI, since it basically means you sit there like a practice dummy for the next round, the enemy beating on you.

I know what I mean by this, but I want to clarify/expand on it, as Turn/Round/Initiative are all fungling it up.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that you can't Dodge/Parry until after you are called in the Initiative Order again when the Round resets- an example would help us all here I think:

Spoiler

+ ROUND ONE +

+ Initiative Order (Tro actions only)+

• Mook (Tro Dodges)
• Mook (Tro Can't Dodge)
• Trokair All Out Attack
• Mook (Dies) (Tro Can't dodge)
• Mook (Tro Can't dodge)

+ ROUND TWO +

+ Initiative Order +

• Mook (Tro Can't dodge)
• Mook (Tro Can't dodge)
• Trokair beats someone up
• Mook (Tro CAN dodge)
• Mook (Tro CAN dodge)

+ ROUND THREE +

+ Initiative Order +

• Mook (Tro Dodges)
• Mook (Tro Can't dodge)
• Trokair beats someone up
• Mook (Tro CAN dodge)
• Mook (Tro CAN dodge)

42 minutes ago, Machine God said:

Squad Leader decides whether to stay in a Squad Mode (if it is Sustainable) or whether to change the Squad Mode. Squad Members may leave Squad Mode and go into Solo Mode if they wish, they can't end Squad Mode. 

EDIT: Second time of writing this - the bloody quotes and spoilers are fudged, man.

That's nearly right.  It's not the Squad Leader, but whoever initiated the SQDM that has to sustain it.  Further, any member of the Squad can call another SQDM at any time.  Once that happens, the old SQDM ceases, and the new SQDM takes precedence.

If it was a Sustained ability, it ends immediately, and will require re-activation.

MG is right in how players may elect to drop out of Squad Mode, but if there is only one player in Squad Mode, it ends automatically as players cannot squad up with themselves.  On top of this there are the usual caveats about Cohesion, Support Range etc.

Does this work for you lads?

Edited July 14, 2022 by Mazer Rackham

[Lysimachus]

17 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Once that happens, the old SQDM ceases, and the new SQDM takes precedence.

If it was a Sustained ability, it ends immediately, and will require re-activation.

 

But it doesn't cost any more CP for the reactivation, right? (Errata1.1, pg5.3)

EG. So currently we are on LbE.

Someone else could call for a Bolter Assault at a cost of 3CP in this Round and we could all switch to that.

Then next Round (as each Character can only benefit from 1 SQDM in any given Round) we could go back to LbE... but wouldn't need to pay the 2CP for it again?

Edited July 14, 2022 by Lysimachus

[Mazer Rackham]

8 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

 

But it doesn't cost any more CP for the reactivation, right? (Errata1.1, pg5.3)

EG. So currently we are on LbE.

Someone else could call for a Bolter Assault at a cost of 3CP in this Round and we could all switch to that.

Then next Round (as each Character can only benefit from 1 SQDM in any given Round) we could go back to LbE... but wouldn't need to pay the 2CP for it again?

All correct.

[Lysimachus]

Um, GS3's first attempt to Dodge would be a Fail, I think? (Assuming you're using the profile from MotX, it's Ag40 -20 = 20)

Cleansing Flame and Cleanse and Purify are a nasty combo... 

 

 

Edit: and 'splodin' 'stealers??? AWESOME!!! 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Lysimachus

[Necronaut]

Xenos Flambé! 

[Mazer Rackham]

10 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Um, GS3's first attempt to Dodge would be a Fail, I think? (Assuming you're using the profile from MotX, it's Ag40 -20 = 20)

You're right, I'll have to re-roll...however, MOTX Stealers are Ag 40, but they have Dodge +10.... (50 total).

[Machine God]

Did Nergui kill the Purestrain with his Crosius?

[Mazer Rackham]

Yes, the post is updated.

[Necronaut]

@Mazer Rackham there aren't any targets within Arcturion's line of sight or immediate vicinity are there? Trying figure out exactly what I'm going to do with my turn in lieu of psychic dakka or choppa.

Not sure if a psyniscience check will determine anything particularly useful for us? 

[Mazer Rackham]

(Un)Fortunately, your colleagues have slaughtered everything.

You may attempt a Difficult (-10) Psyniscience Test to detect the nature of 1 Target (Blip) per DoS.

Beware, for the foe is guided by a malign intellect...as well you know.

Actually, I have forgotten that you are all facing a Fear (2) foe.  Being a Marine this drops down to a -10 penalties for all Wp tests.

Normally this would cause a Cohesion Damage challenge since you are in SQD, but we'll ignore it this Round since I b0rked it .  As of next round however, (I will use the narrative excuse of the FLAMBÉ-STEALER) the Kill Team Leader must pass a Wp test (with the modifier inflicted by the Fear causing foe ie -10 in this case) to resist the damage (-2 Cohesion)

This test only needs to be passed once per combat.  If it is failed, Cohesion will be reduced by 2 points, until the Leader can Test again.  Fail again, -2 more etc.

You can find more about this in Core p.277 "And They Shall Know No Fear."

[Machine God]

Here's a question for you Mazer.

It's not really in the rules because it's assumed that we'd all be wearing Power Armour.

All the Terminator Armour's are Old. Old is Good in 40K.

Mk's 2 - 5 give Fellowship Bonuses and Mk 2 and 3 give bonuses to prevent Cohesion Damage.

Shouldn't the TDA that we are all wearing get similar qualities?

[Mazer Rackham]

There are plenty of options for Cohesion Damage prevention/remedy open to the players. (Armour Histories, Chapter Trappings, Master Sig Wargear Affects, Deeds, Distinctions, and I think there's even a Squad Mode somewhere - for Ultramarines).

You can't mitigate everything. 

[Necronaut]

@Mazer Rackham I know I'm supposed to leave judgements of the outcome of a failed psyniscience test up to the GM (read: you), with the usual outcome being that the psyker fails to even tap into their power. However I thought this would be more fun -- completely overwhelming Arcturion with a flood of psychic malice and terror. Feel free to punish him further with additional psychic torment! 

[Mazer Rackham]

Well really, what you've posted is narrative, and left the rest to me, which is top job.  Nothing wrong with what you've done, leaves me to the rolls and decisions, makes my life easier.

So I'm going to make your life easier.

In SQDM LBE, don't you have like one team re-roll for anything per turn or something?

T'is optional....

Edited July 14, 2022 by Mazer Rackham

[Necronaut]

Oh great point -- I forgot about that reroll entirely (too many fething rules)!

Let me get in a cheeky re-roll and I will update my narrative drivel to fit. Stay tuned. 

[Necronaut]

Post has been updated. The mobile text editor is buggy as all hell! 

[Mazer Rackham]

6 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

Post has been updated. The mobile text editor is buggy as all hell! 

Being brutally honest, I think a lot of things are buggy as all hell.

The trouble I had with bloody spoilers. 

[Machine God]

That's the problem with mobiles, after a while the tinsel and candles fall off and the coat hangers don't get any reception

[Mazer Rackham]

Agreed.

Can't beat two tin cans and bit of string.

Wire if you could afford it.

[Trokair]

So Nergüi is currently in solo mode (he remained in solo back during the first engagement as I wanted to try out the extra movement solo ability). He also has Fearless, so as I understand it he is safe from the stealers fear effect.

Is there anyway he can help the others overcome fear or so?

 

Edit: On the round 2 map, Nergüi should be eastwards (towards the wall), after the stealer died he had a half action move. 

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Trokair

[Mazer Rackham]

21 minutes ago, Trokair said:

So Nergüi is currently in solo mode (he remained in solo back during the first engagement as I wanted to try out the extra movement solo ability). He also has Fearless, so as I understand it he is safe from the stealers fear effect.

That is correct.

Unfortunately, the Cohesion Damage check must be taken at the start of the Round.  However, as speaking is a Free Action, and due to the fact you are a Chaplain, I will allow you to provide Assistance on this test (ie, Lysi gains +10 to his roll) on a successful Difficult (-10) Fellowship Test.

The difficulty represents Philemon being in melee, and therefore distracted.

Acceptable?

[Lysimachus]

Ok, so it's a-10 WP Roll, but if Nergui passes a -10 Fel Roll, it becomes a straight +/-0 WP Roll?

So I'll wait to see what he gets before rolling?

[Mazer Rackham]

2 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Ok, so it's a-10 WP Roll, but if Nergui passes a -10 Fel Roll, it becomes a straight +/-0 WP Roll?

So I'll wait to see what he gets before rolling?

Yep, that's right, and yep, that's fine.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, if you didn't pick it up from the previous posts about the Hybrids, they have an Autocannon and autoguns.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Mazer Rackham

[Necronaut]

22 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Ok, so it's a-10 WP Roll, but if Nergui passes a -10 Fel Roll, it becomes a straight +/-0 WP Roll?

So I'll wait to see what he gets before rolling?

Remember that one may not lead themselves by example. ;)

[Machine God]

26 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Yep, that's right, and yep, that's fine.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, if you didn't pick it up from the previous posts about the Hybrids, they have an Autocannon and autoguns.

Of course, non Astartes weapons.

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Wait till you see what Korvaan has planned...

Edited July 14, 2022 by Machine God
Korvaan's idea