Blindhamster Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, TrawlingCleaner said: Nothing indicates it here but a lot of the Firstborn characters are currently in Legends, Relic Termies and Contemptors are going to Legends too. My assumption is they'll release a list of units that are in Legends and are in this Index to be used for the rest of the edition. If it's in the Index, I suppose more poeple are likely to use it. Perhaps it's a step in the right direction to try to get more people to use them IMO relic terminators were not confirmed anywherre as going to legends, contemptors with HH options may go to legends, looks like the other kind may not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kilamandaros said: Am I missing something anyone see the Bladeguard captain & lieutenant? Or are they just considered part of the Bladeguard squad now somehow? Their options are on the Primaris Captain and Primaris Lieutenant datasheets, just as they were in 9th. Edited June 9, 2023 by Lord Nord Kilamandaros 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbedark Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Do Scout Sniper Rifles and Eliminator Bolt Rifles look absolutely NASTY to anyone else? Aramis K, Ammonius, Cruor Vault and 1 other 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Kilamandaros said: Am I missing something anyone see the Bladeguard captain & lieutenant? Or are they just considered part of the Bladeguard squad now somehow? They are part of the Primaris Captain and Lieutenant datasheets as wargear options. Sea Creature 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, LostTemplar said: Dreadnoughts are still there. I find it wierd that captains can now have bolt pistol, power fist and MW bolt rifle. And the MW bolt rifle is inferior to a regular bolt rifle. What am I missing? MW bolt rifle is better, it already hits on 2s because captain so heavy does absolutely nothing for it, and its damage 2, does lose assault though, which kinda sucks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Blindhamster said: relic terminators were not confirmed anywherre as going to legends, contemptors with HH options may go to legends, looks like the other kind may not. It's conflicting at the moment, we were told in that article that the old Dread is being discontinued and GW does, 'no model, no rules' atleast for non-legends stuff. Wugo_Heaving 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrkPlayer137 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Just noticed boltguns - no longer rapid fire, just flat 2 shots. Did we already know that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Calgar is extremely strong, team him up with Bladeguard, Eradicators, whatever and good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, OrkPlayer137 said: Just noticed boltguns - no longer rapid fire, just flat 2 shots. Did we already know that? Yes, from chaos IIRC. It's implementing bolter discipline into the profile pretty much. Non-marine bolters are still rapid fire 1 like Sororitas IIRC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Judiciar looks Spicy teamed up with BGVs rolling out of a land raider.... there's alot here, I'm gunna wait for the wolves one to drop before I dig to hard... Karhedron, Dark Shepherd and tinpact 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 How many characters can we attach to a squad again? Just asking to see who is getting a Bladeguard Veteran bodyguard... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Tor Garadon is S14 hitting vehicles :D Sea Creature, Orange Knight, ZeroWolf and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Blindhamster said: Tor Garadon is S14 hitting vehicles :D I noticed. The Imperium's Fist lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 And ap - 4 and damage 4 Blindhamster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtrouble Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 53 minutes ago, Kilamandaros said: Ooo Devastator squad with grav cannons in a drop pod is back - anti-vehicle 2+ with 3 shots D3 looks really strong, shame about only -1 AP but poor AP is across the board it seems. I’m loading mine in a razorback. Planning on putting some hellblasters in an impulsor and will play a machanized list for a bit. Backed up by a whirlwind. Should be fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 56 minutes ago, TrawlingCleaner said: Nothing indicates it here but a lot of the Firstborn characters are currently in Legends, Relic Termies and Contemptors are going to Legends too. My assumption is they'll release a list of units that are in Legends and are in this Index to be used for the rest of the edition. If it's in the Index, I suppose more poeple are likely to use it. Perhaps it's a step in the right direction to try to get more people to use them IMO I think they kept the relic terminators and relic contemptor from the previous codex simply out of inertia. The new contemptor kit is legends, the old one is not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Am I reading it right that Drop Pods can carry Phobos and Tacticus Marines? Starlight_Wolf, Carcosa, Ramell and 4 others 1 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradogmatic Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Iron Father Feirros misses out on having other models in his squad unlike the other characters because he's not a Captain etc.. his keyword is Iron Father which isn't mentioned on the Leader exception rules... Kayvan etc are all marked as Chapter Master or Captain keywords.. Hope that one gets FAQed because its a bit odd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbedark Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Paradogmatic said: Iron Father Feirros misses out on having other models in his squad unlike the other characters because he's not a Captain etc.. his keyword is Iron Father which isn't mentioned on the Leader exception rules... Kayvan etc are all marked as Chapter Master or Captain keywords.. Hope that one gets FAQed because its a bit odd Given that he gives his unit a 5+++, I'm not sure that's an error... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Just now, Ammonius said: Am I reading it right that Drop Pods can carry Phobos and Tacticus Marines? Yes ‐--‐-------------- While I'm mostly ambivilent about the weapon condenscing, I have to admit that Assault Squads having more weapon options than Vanguard Vets feels backwards. Probably to do with Wargear prices being eliminated wherever possible, but you'd think they'd have at least done a heavy/light weapon split like on the basic Heretic Astartes. Petitioner's City, Kallas, burningsky25 and 4 others 2 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Large and Moving Torb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) The Tactical unit comp change is really obnoxious. I have a small Dark Angels army with a Razorback and was planning on adding another with a five-man Tac squad. I guess that is going to have to be a second Devastator squad now, just with bolters so I can take my second RB. Edited June 9, 2023 by Large and Moving Torb Kallas, Toxichobbit and Firedrake Cordova 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 If I am reading this right, Stormravens can now carry Primaris Dreadnoughts. I think my Brutalis just found a ride! Wugo_Heaving, Sea Creature, tinpact and 4 others 1 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danodan123 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said: How many characters can we attach to a squad again? Just asking to see who is getting a Bladeguard Veteran bodyguard... Just one, but certain characters have rules to allow an 'extra' character to join. ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradogmatic Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Just now, Arbedark said: Given that he gives his unit a 5+++, I'm not sure that's an error... Possibly -- I do enjoy the concept of a 10 man Heavy Intercessor bodyguard for him so this may be true Iron Father Ferrum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrkPlayer137 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Sicarius and Cassius can be added to Sternguard squads! I think that's the only case I've found of mixing Firstborn characters and Primaris units. tinpact 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378896-space-marine-index/page/4/#findComment-5957227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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