Laurence Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 57 minutes ago, GSCUprising said: I've already mentally converted it in a ride for my Primus. I'm thinking a Patriarch throne on the back. Guy leaning on the railing might possibly work as a re-creation of magus vizier whispering in the ear... GSCUprising 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 The real question is, how much will these cost? im hoping no more than $70 for the generic two and $85 at most for graves’ kit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I missed out on Severina, so I'm happy to have another shot at a Femme Commissar... Though I think the Commissar in the Mika Lesk Command Squad is female, and I have that box sitting at home unopenned. I like her ride and the squad that comes with it; I'll paint the 5 Scions I got in Ashes of Faith to match them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, ThePenitentOne said: I missed out on Severina, so I'm happy to have another shot at a Femme Commissar... Though I think the Commissar in the Mika Lesk Command Squad is female, and I have that box sitting at home unopenned. I like her ride and the squad that comes with it; I'll paint the 5 Scions I got in Ashes of Faith to match them. Commissar Shand is a man. Great character actually, my favorite from those books. Laurence 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Ahh, thanks. That makes the new Commissar that much more special... Especially since I don't have Rayne. Speaking of which, when she dropped, someone probably already coined the term Femissar, but it's time to bring it back! And before anyone else can do it: Don't turn around (Oh Oh Oh) Die Femissar's in town! (Oh Oh Oh) (RIP Falco!) ggergnayr and Evil Eye 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 31 minutes ago, ThePenitentOne said: Ahh, thanks. That makes the new Commissar that much more special... Especially since I don't have Rayne. Speaking of which, when she dropped, someone probably already coined the term Femissar, but it's time to bring it back! And before anyone else can do it: Don't turn around (Oh Oh Oh) Die Femissar's in town! (Oh Oh Oh) (RIP Falco!) I need to listen to more Falco. Rock Me Amadeus and Die Commissar are all I know, tragically. Looking at Graves, whilst the overall package doesn't quite do it for me, I like it enough I'd happily buy it to convert the vehicle into a transport for a Genestealer/Chaos cult leader (as mentioned) and Graves herself into a pair of unrelated Femmissars. It's a nice vehicle, to be clear, but the punisher(?) cannon in the hull is a bit much and the whole thing seems a bit too much like a "GW obligatory centrepiece" as stock. Like I say though, I think as a basis for conversion it will be wonderful and I definitely want to pick one up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2026 at 4:08 PM, Marshal Rohr said: I like the half track but do not like the scout car. I’ve never liked scout cars though so that’s a personal preference thing. Same mate, I really like the half track but the scout car feels off to me. I like the commissar half track though, completely impractical and very 40k. Like others have said it'd be great for Arbites allies. Marshal Rohr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 20 hours ago, TheVoidDragon said: If you mean the very slight angling at the back: I wouldn't say that's some sort of distinctive feature that clearly shows they took inspiration from it. It's just going to be a design choice because they didn't literally just copy the Saladin in the same way the Centaur isn't literally a M5A1 Halftrack exactly, they're a 40k version based off that so some variation and differences are going be there. I can't see a clear view of the engine area so not sure what you're saying is similar, but the underside being ribbed like that is just something they'll have done to help it keep in line with the Rogal Dorn tank, which has the same thing. Several features of it are there to maintain a somewhat similar style to the Rogal Dorn as that's clearly the direction they want new vehicles to go. Considering how hard they’ve worked to de-German a lot of the guard aesthetics with the Krieg and Cadian refreshes I’d be shocked if any German vehicle was used for anything but a what not to make guide. 37 minutes ago, Doghouse said: Same mate, I really like the half track but the scout car feels off to me. I like the commissar half track though, completely impractical and very 40k. Like others have said it'd be great for Arbites allies. Wasn’t there a half track in Judge Dredd? I may be misremembering my comics. EmprahsStrongestGuardsman and Doghouse 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 @Marshal Rohr you're thinking of the Kill Dozer from the Cursed Earth storyline. It could separate in the middle into two vehicles. Doghouse, ZeroWolf, ggergnayr and 2 others 1 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Cactus said: @Marshal Rohr you're thinking of the Kill Dozer from the Cursed Earth storyline. It could separate in the middle into two vehicles. It joined up with the Land Raider... EmprahsStrongestGuardsman, Burni, Cactus and 2 others 1 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said: Considering how hard they’ve worked to de-German a lot of the guard aesthetics with the Krieg and Cadian refreshes I’d be shocked if any German vehicle was used for anything but a what not to make guide. What a shame really. They went too far with the Krieg. They got rid of all the French influence on the Death Riders and Grenadiers. They shouldn't have changed anything in the first place. I guess I got what I wished for with plastic Krieg, shame it was a monkey's paw wish. Shame the Macharius got squatted instead of getting a plastic refresh like the Malcador. Now we have a "new" plastic tank named after the worst Primarch. Evil Eye and Marshal Rohr 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShibeKing Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 46 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said: What a shame really. They went too far with the Krieg. They got rid of all the French influence on the Death Riders and Grenadiers. They shouldn't have changed anything in the first place. I guess I got what I wished for with plastic Krieg, shame it was a monkey's paw wish. Shame the Macharius got squatted instead of getting a plastic refresh like the Malcador. Now we have a "new" plastic tank named after the worst Primarch. There's a Lorgar tank? I think the new vehicles are pretty cool. Not the most exciting Guard reveals we've ever had, but they look like fun kits to build and paint. I'm still relatively new to Guard (started with the Cadian refresh) so I'm kind of clueless on what the range needs atm. What are the vehicle kits that need to be updated the most? What sort of vehicles is the range lacking right now? Edited March 28 by ShibeKing ThaneOfTas, Xenith, Kommisar_K and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, MoriyaSchism said: What a shame really. They went too far with the Krieg. They got rid of all the French influence on the Death Riders and Grenadiers. They shouldn't have changed anything in the first place. I guess I got what I wished for with plastic Krieg, shame it was a monkey's paw wish. Shame the Macharius got squatted instead of getting a plastic refresh like the Malcador. Now we have a "new" plastic tank named after the worst Primarch. I'm hoping they held the Macharius design back for the next time they are on a super heavy/centrepiece phase, I'd love to see it back, especially the Omega. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 3/26/2026 at 12:53 PM, grailkeeper said: The thing I find funniest about the new Commissar is that the mini on foot - y'know, when she might actually be close enough to hit something with her sword - and she's sheathed the damn thing! I could see a certain amount of logic in kitbashing the two versions together to create a more static pose atop the car, and a more dynamic combat pose on foot? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, Laurence said: It joined up with the Land Raider... Good god, My brother had these two toys. They might still be in my loft, though time has not been kind to them. It's a bit of a shame that we didn't get Commissar Yarrick atop The Fortress of Arrogance, but on the plus side we got Commissar Graves atop The Bunker of Uppityness. I like these designs over all, but they are straying further and further away from the Chimera and the Russ Aesthetically. I'm sure they are lovely for more modern looking Cadian and Steel Legion regiments, but they don't feel quite crude enough to look right for Krieg in my opinion. A shout out to MoriyaSchism for the Macharius. I'd love a Macharius Vanquisher just for the model, but sadly the second hand market isn't going to get any cheaper since it was discontinued... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 11 hours ago, ShibeKing said: There's a Lorgar tank? I think the new vehicles are pretty cool. Not the most exciting Guard reveals we've ever had, but they look like fun kits to build and paint. I'm still relatively new to Guard (started with the Cadian refresh) so I'm kind of clueless on what the range needs atm. What are the vehicle kits that need to be updated the most? What sort of vehicles is the range lacking right now? The range doesn’t ‘need’ anything. we have 2 different 10+ man transports. so the centaur wasn’t really needed we we have 2 chassis that already fill the light vehicle role the hippogriff fills, so that wasn’t needed. we have artillery vehicles, we have an MBT inspired heavy tank, and a heavy tank inspired medium tank. we have multiple different kinds of infantry. NorthernUltramarines, Laurence and Dezron 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6163535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 (edited) And now a word from today's sponsor: World of Tanks. Edited April 16 by Lord Marshal Brother Carpenter, SteveAntilles, Dark Shepherd and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) Hippogriff is honestly a little underwhelming. Especially the vigilator cannon. with an ability called ‘convoy escort’ I’d have expected something like +1 to hit when within X” of another vehicle. though graves mounted looks like a must have. Edited April 16 by Inquisitor_Lensoven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAntilles Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I need these new tanks, like something fierce. Commissar is meh, but Centaurs loaded up with heavy weapon teams fills me with joy. Hippogriffs zooming around with melta cannons and jumping back into cover just sounds hilarious. Casual Heresy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) Graves is a fun piece; if you're playing Mechanized Assault it's basically a no brainer with the synergy bonuses. Not too overpowered either, and having the ability the hammer of wrath ability on top of being able to tank shock is gonna make her kinda nasty against big pieces. I can't ever imagine running her on the ground, but I do hope it's indicative of changing ALL commissars to having Move Move Move. That feels fluffy and thematic enough without overpowering them, and would get me putting commissars in smaller squads more often. I was hoping (I know it was Pure Hopium) that the Centaur was gonna give us the abilty to stack 15 in it (squad plus command squad), but I get why they didn't. Being able to have Graves just order the disembark is probably enough, but it does limit their efficacy a bit. They really need to introduce something less crazy than a castellan that can attach to these fodder battleline squads. Hippogriff is whatever. They're cool. Edited April 16 by DemonGSides Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 My prediction for the hippogriff statline in the guard forum was almost spot on though. Off by 1 wound Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 The Centaur looks fun because the Firing Deck means all your Scions or Kasrkin can unload and be safe, but not getting orders to be more efficient is less cool. I don't play Guard but I'm sure there's something there. Graves is fine but she's not really filling a role that Guard need. Also gotta say I appreciate GW leaning into aggressive female characters like Graves and the new AdMech gal. 1 hour ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Hippogriff is honestly a little underwhelming. Especially the vigilator cannon. with an ability called ‘convoy escort’ I’d have expected something like +1 to hit when within X” of another vehicle. though graves mounted looks like a must have. It's underwhelming at first, but my guess is that it's gonna be dirt cheap. With the shoot and scoot, there's 100% play. Inquisitor_Lensoven and Casual Heresy 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30n1d4s Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I agree about a Centaur loaded with (2) HWTs. If you go with Krieg HWTs, then you can have 6 x D6 D5 AP-1 Dmg2 shots that autohit and ignore cover (which work equally well with both regular shooting and Overwatch) If you go with Catachan HWTs, you can choose 6 Lascannons, give the Centaur Scout 6", and then turn 1 stay still (to activate Heavy) and give them +1BS with an order... that's 6 Lascannon shots hitting on 3+s... if you are running Grizzled Company, then the Centaur also gets reroll 1s to Hit and you can use a Strat to give its shooting Ignores Cover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I do hope they mention somewhere there are two vehicles with the name "centaur"! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 30 minutes ago, L30n1d4s said: I agree about a Centaur loaded with (2) HWTs. If you go with Krieg HWTs, then you can have 6 x D6 D5 AP-1 Dmg2 shots that autohit and ignore cover (which work equally well with both regular shooting and Overwatch) If you go with Catachan HWTs, you can choose 6 Lascannons, give the Centaur Scout 6", and then turn 1 stay still (to activate Heavy) and give them +1BS with an order... that's 6 Lascannon shots hitting on 3+s... if you are running Grizzled Company, then the Centaur also gets reroll 1s to Hit and you can use a Strat to give its shooting Ignores Cover. Oh good call, I didn't think about Heavy Weapon teams. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387712-imperial-guard-commissar-graves-centaur-rsv-hippogriff-afv/page/4/#findComment-6166783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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