Ferrus Manus Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Ferrus, what type of angles? Can't go with robed angels to Dark Angels, go with skeleton angels to chaplain like, do you have any ideas? The Imperial Aquila is intresting, but how to use it that it doesn't take from the Emperor. Well Mol has used skeleton angels on the Company banners so it would be ok to use them. As for the Aquilla I'd suggest looking at how Sicarius' heraldry is composed. I've used a similar idea for one of my own captains. With regards to the brawling, I do plan on having the Companies fighting. I'm working on the Fifth Company's Challenger, Bassus the Thorned Fist, as we speak. Sounds like a plan. Guess I better start thinking up one for the 8th, can't leave you Battle Company guys getting all the glory now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1750024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I should have been taking the results down, but right now I havnt played in almost a week and Ill be out of town for a while, so I may be able to get something up coser to the middle of november, even though thats is a long way away ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1750113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Glad to see there's been a decent amount of discussion in the Second Company Discussion thread. :D Darth Potato/Marshal2_Crusaders: Would it be worthwhile starting a Third Company blog-thread? This past week I've been doing very little, in honesty, but I've written up a 1500 point list in preparation for games soon. That should turn out pretty interestingly. I have, however, been giving some thought to the death of Baraquiel. It's interesting how things fall into place so long after the fact. To me, the death of Baraquiel has always been something hazy - I knew he died, but it wasn't that important. Now I think I've come up with something that might've cemented the Castigators' views. Consider that during the Castigators' early history, they used psychic librarians - it was only after they found Losanco that the percentage of psykers within their ranks began to dwindle. They fought across the Howling Stars, eradicating the Ryssith. It occured to me that Baraquiel was wounded during the storming of the last Ryssith Nest-world, poisoned by the Ryssith Empress. Baraquiel ordered the Apothecaries not to extract his progenoid glands, lest the Chapter's gene-pool be irrevocably tainted. Knowing his death was imminent, Baraquiel continued to fight, sustained by his supreme force of will. After three days, he fell and could not rise - he was carried back into orbit by his Honour Guard. Baraquiel lay in the Apothecarion aboard the Holy Enterprise, tended to by the Apothecary-Primus. The entire Chapter awaited his death; all ten of the Company Captains kept vigil at his side, awaiting any last word before he passed into the Emperor's care. As he died, he looked upon the Ryssith Nest-world burning from orbit and knew the Howling Stars were free of alien domination. Upon his death, First-Captain Crassus became Chapter Master. Crassus was also a former Black Consul, and declared that the Chapter would enter fourteen years of mourning, painting their armour black to honour their fallen leader. I think that helps to cement the Castigators' views towards genetic purity. They were created as a response to the Dark Founding, and then with the death of Baraquiel and the homeworld they were drawn from, the unique chain of events that followed helped shape the Castigators into the Chapter they became. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1756795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Glad to see there's been a decent amount of discussion in the Second Company Discussion thread. ;) Darth Potato/Marshal2_Crusaders: Would it be worthwhile starting a Third Company blog-thread? This past week I've been doing very little, in honesty, but I've written up a 1500 point list in preparation for games soon. That should turn out pretty interestingly. I have, however, been giving some thought to the death of Baraquiel. It's interesting how things fall into place so long after the fact. To me, the death of Baraquiel has always been something hazy - I knew he died, but it wasn't that important. Now I think I've come up with something that might've cemented the Castigators' views. Consider that during the Castigators' early history, they used psychic librarians - it was only after they found Losanco that the percentage of psykers within their ranks began to dwindle. They fought across the Howling Stars, eradicating the Ryssith. It occured to me that Baraquiel was wounded during the storming of the last Ryssith Nest-world, poisoned by the Ryssith Empress. Baraquiel ordered the Apothecaries not to extract his progenoid glands, lest the Chapter's gene-pool be irrevocably tainted. Knowing his death was imminent, Baraquiel continued to fight, sustained by his supreme force of will. After three days, he fell and could not rise - he was carried back into orbit by his Honour Guard. Baraquiel lay in the Apothecarion aboard the Holy Enterprise, tended to by the Apothecary-Primus. The entire Chapter awaited his death; all ten of the Company Captains kept vigil at his side, awaiting any last word before he passed into the Emperor's care. As he died, he looked upon the Ryssith Nest-world burning from orbit and knew the Howling Stars were free of alien domination. Upon his death, First-Captain Crassus became Chapter Master. Crassus was also a former Black Consul, and declared that the Chapter would enter fourteen years of mourning, painting their armour black to honour their fallen leader. I think that helps to cement the Castigators' views towards genetic purity. They were created as a response to the Dark Founding, and then with the death of Baraquiel and the homeworld they were drawn from, the unique chain of events that followed helped shape the Castigators into the Chapter they became. I believe a third company discussion thread would be helpful Mol, yes. As for the death of Baraquiel, it sounds much more concrete now and I like it. His death exemplifies what it means to be a Castigator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1757012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 I believe a third company discussion thread would be helpful Mol, yes. Awesome, I've added it up here - Feel free to take the initiative here and discuss whatever you want to discuss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1757023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Just a quick suggestion Mol, I've just finished Battle For the Abyss, theres a passage in there which tells us about an honour bout between two astartes, might give you some ideas for the new rules system. Ill talk to you in more depth when I get the chance on messenger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1757127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Sounds interesting! I'll keep my eye out for it. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1758746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kael Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Does anyone else have ideas for symols to represent Purity? Angels perhaps, or even the Imperial Aquila, surely there isn't a more pure symbol than the Emperor's himself? P.S Welcome aboard Sevink IMHO: I think the whole angel thing is used too much throughout the Adeptus Astartes, I mean I know their are supposed to be very holy and pure, but it seems sort of repetitive. Instead of an angel, it could be something like a crystal, a flower of some sorts, a ray of light, the sun, the moon, or even a weapon of some sorts. You could even use a symbol of Baraquiel or something since the Castigator's revere him so much. Since he is what a Castigator is all about, he could be seen as the "purest form" of a Castigator. Captain Kael Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1766423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 You're entirely welcome to your opinion, Kael - I think a lot of it stems from the idea that the Adeptus Astartes are to be "Angels of Death whose shining wings bring swift annihilation to the enemies of Man... for a thousand times a thousand years, unti the very end of eternity and the extinction of mortal flesh." I think it's a little like this - there are twenty-six letters in the alphabet, and we draw upon the ones we need for each word in a sentence. Similarly, there are a number of themes inherent within the Space Marine archetype, and within the scope of each Chapter (canon or DIY), those different themes and ideals are portrayed to different extents. The knight, the soldier, the monk, the zealot, so on and so forth. The Castigators would certainly emphasise the role of the "zealot", but the other themes in the background serve to distinguish them from, say, the Black Templars. (Though they do seem to prove popular with Black Templar players....) I don't mind the Angel theme, though I don't give every Space Marine wings or the like. I think it's an acceptable element. I've only used Angels in the Castigators once, though - in the Tenth Company. Captain Vatrenus bears the heraldry of an Angel coveting a skull, whilst the (currently in-progress and subject to change) Tenth Company Standard shows a winged skeleton. That might well get dropped, though. The reason for that comes from the mention in the IA article that the inhabitants of Losanco see the Castigators as angels in the service of the God-Emperor. It's appropriate that the Company responsible for recruiting from Losanco would be influenced by that angelic ideology. I have seen some nice heraldries recently in a thread in the PC+A - the Desert Angels? Something like that? He has an army of bikes and terminators, and uses the brass-etch Forgeworld aquilas. There was a nice powerfist with three aquilas, and I could see that being incorporated with the symbol of the Second Company (a horizontal white stripe, I believe.) I'll have to give it a thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1767260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodeus' Swordhand Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 they're the desert eagles. I think your idea sounds really cool actually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1767372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 That's them - thank you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1767684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 Alas, I haven't been able to get much further with the Castigators recently. Work on my dissertation along with the other Castigator players absenting themselves from the internet has meant that development's slowed. I've continued to develop the Fifth Company in preparation for a Campaign I'll be participating in against Black Legionnaires. Having named all of them, I'm working on squad histories. The double-page spread in the latest Space Marine Codex has influenced me, and I like the multiple layers of loyalty that a Space Marine would find himself holding. Squad rivalries, Company rivalries... it all works to keep the Space Marines strong and battle-ready! I've also started working on homegrown rules for the ever-handsome Senior Sergeant Caetrus - feedback is appreciated. I think the next stage (as ever) will be overhauling the IA article to make it a bit more palatable, and then I'll be looking for peoples' opinions as to what to detail next. :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1790364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 That's funny....haven't seen you lately, mol :o Been waiting on your comments for the firebrands, to see what needs to be fixed. Nice to see you back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1790380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 I've commented on the Second Company blog - hopefully it'll give you some food for thought. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1790388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 I just received a PM from Nash Trickster with a very interesting link - if any of you guys still play Dawn of War it might prove interesting to you: Hi Mol, Just wanted to let you know that here you could find a "fan"'s attempt at a Castigator B&B set... He asked me to let you know since he doesn't have an account here at the B&C ;) /Nash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1790934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Mol, have you detailed any of the Howling Stars region? Just wondering. Should look up Codex: Harvesters. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1792388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 No, I've not done anything regarding the Howling Stars (nothing specific relating to planets, etc.) The main thing I want to do is to come up with a decent name for the Castigators' local forgeworld. Nothing I've brainstormed yet seems to fit. I'd like it if some of the random conversions I do can be explained away as being "XXX-Pattern equipment". :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1792413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 What have you brainstormed as possible names? What type of conversions have you done? describe how you see the forgeworld, and maybe get some ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1792452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyShip Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 No, I've not done anything regarding the Howling Stars (nothing specific relating to planets, etc.) The main thing I want to do is to come up with a decent name for the Castigators' local forgeworld. Nothing I've brainstormed yet seems to fit. I'd like it if some of the random conversions I do can be explained away as being "XXX-Pattern equipment". And don't forget about Legio Lux! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1792816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 No, I've not done anything regarding the Howling Stars (nothing specific relating to planets, etc.) The main thing I want to do is to come up with a decent name for the Castigators' local forgeworld. Nothing I've brainstormed yet seems to fit. I'd like it if some of the random conversions I do can be explained away as being "XXX-Pattern equipment". :) Skathia is a good name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1792860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Certainly not a bad one! Thanks for the suggestion, it definitely will be given further consideration. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1792884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Trickster Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 For the name of a Forge World I must propose a mythological name that hasn't yet been used by GW: Hephaestus (I give the latinized version of his name since it fits better with the 40k'verse than the Greek one). Of course, using such a name directly can be a "bit risky" if GW one day decides to use it too... So you may want to use a slightly "diagonal" reference to the lame god of Forges, using one of his nicknames: Mulciber ("maker of iron") or Amphigyeis ("who limps with both legs")... I'd go with Mulciber myself :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1793163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'd go with Mulciber myself -_- I agree with that, has a certain ring to it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1793330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Barret and I did brainstorm a number of forge/hell-like names, including Tartarus, etc - I'd not seen Mulciber, but I'd like to corrupt the name somehow to make it a little less obvious, and a little more mine... Definitely food for thought! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1793352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kairo Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Hey Molotov, I'm not sure if I've shown this to you before or not. I touched up a Castigators Banner for Dawn of War a few months back by adding a background flag, winged skulls in the corners and the Castigator symbol in the top left. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/Angel_Kairo/Warhammer%2040K/DoW%20Banners/Castigators_Banner3.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/30/#findComment-1793386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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