Iron-Daemon Forge Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 By Igor Sid https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dWqgx Plaguecaster, Custodian Athiair, Goreshed and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4869390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 It iritates me to no end that we have this art contradicting rules. We all had thunderhammers during heresy, did we throw them away? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4869505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Chaos can only maintain the power fields of power mauls, power axes, power swords, and power fists. Oh, cruel entropy! Edited August 27, 2017 by Juggernut Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4869571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Not only that, why havent they simply salvaged them since the HH? There's no practical reason chaos doesnt have small numbers of everything that the Imperium uses. Brother Aiwass and jeremy1391 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4869610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshed Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Because that would mean GW would have to upgrade our sprues..... Plaguecaster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4869951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettfp Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just finished my IW Helbrute :) thought you peeps might appreciate it! http://i.imgur.com/SsoDpgq.jpg  There are some WIP pics here Fhanados, Warsmith Aznable, Marqol and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4870301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushi2001 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Very, Very nice!! Altgoigh all that mutation doesn't fit tge Iron Warriors that much. Brother Aiwass and brettfp 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4871584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Very, Very nice!! Altgoigh all that mutation doesn't fit tge Iron Warriors that much. I think it fits perfectly well. The living damned trapped inside the sarcophagus do not get the same privileges as the rest of the Iron Warriors; their mutations are not cut away. Despite the fact that they are sheathed in iron, those interred with a hellbrute are naked before the ravages of chaos! brettfp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4871595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 ^ No idea where you get that idea. IW and mutations don't mix well, they replace them with bionics. It's a nice conversion though. Maybe just the tentacles just errupt from the Hellbrute right on the battlefield like The Thing, without anyone expecting it. brettfp and Brother Aiwass 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4871681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) ^ No idea where you get that idea. IW and mutations don't mix well, they replace them with bionics. It's a nice conversion though. Maybe just the tentacles just errupt from the Hellbrute right on the battlefield like The Thing, without anyone expecting it. I am fully aware that optimally the Iron Warrior would prevent such warping from occurring... but this isn't a typical member of the legion. It's a hellbrute. It isn't as if the thing can just take a knife and self-operate. It would require a warpsmith to crack open a hellbrute and cut away the corrupt flesh and then replace it with valuable cybernetics. If the Iron Warrior had already been condemned to living death within a sarcophagus, why would the warpsmiths care enough to bother preventing mutation? The hellbrutes are the mad dogs of the legion. Â Iron Warriors are against mutation, but would they bother extending such traditions towards one who failed so catastrophically? Maybe, but I could see why the answer might be a resounding 'no.' Â It is the exception that proves the rule. Edited August 29, 2017 by Azekai Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4871723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Personally I go for more normal looking dreads to be my hellbrutes but that's a great looking model. I like how you've added the maulerfiend claw to its power fist. Also I like the vents on the back, the industrial style of them, really adds something to the model. brettfp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4871785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Not all chaos dreadnoughts are corrupted insane beings. Some maintain their sanity and are functioning members of the legion. I think warpsmiths would quickly "fix" any mutations but hey, whatever works for you. Its a good conversion. brettfp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4871847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettfp Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Thanks for the feedback, but wow, I seem to have started quite the heated discussion. I feel I need to point out that my army is a bit different. My Warlord is technically a 'rogue' Iron Warrior. He wanted to experiment with mutations, but obviously the IW weren't keen on that so he left and continued his work elsewhere. I just put ti here cos I've painted it to look like IW. There's more info in my WIP thread. Â But basically, Yes, Normal Iron Warriors would not allow this much mutation, but this Helbrute was not made by a normal Iron Warrior Marqol and Brother Aiwass 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4871880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dawnstar Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I'm having someone else convert up my 30k Iron Warriors to have more of a 40k Chaotic aesthetic (green stuff and conversion work are well outside my wheelhouse) and one suggestion they've made is that they go over all the eye lenses, cables and the like to give them some object source lighting and give the models some stronger focus points. Right now the way they're suggesting doing it would look something like this, but I'm a little bit uncertain about that green because it isn't exactly the sort of colour I really associate with Iron Warriors' eye lenses. Â I was wondering if any of you guys could give me a second opinion? I haven't got a very good head for colours, contrasts and what "works" when it comes to cohesive paintjobs and army schemes, so I'd really appreciate if anyone could tell me what they think about that particular green and whether they think there'd be a better direction to go instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4873913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think that looks fine how it is. You could even do a blue if that's what you prefer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4874011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think that red glow would be the best (I did my Iron Warriors eyes glow red just as in the BlackBook art) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4874447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogon Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Hi all,  I’m looking for a bit of advice. I’ve started an Iron Warriors force and am thinking of adding a unit of Havocs but am not really sure what to arm them with.  With split fire now being a thing in 8th is it worth arming them differently or just go for saturation with one weapon type?  To put it into context the army so far consists of  Chaos lord in Terminator armour. Chaos Lord 5 Chaos terminators 20 Marines (including 2 unit champions 2 plasma guns, one melta gun and a heavy bolter) to be split as appropriate depending on scenario etc. Forgefiend FW Decimator Lord of Skulls  Also would a squad of 10 marines with bolt pistol and Chainsword be a good addition? I’m thinking they’d be handy but am not sure it fits particularly well with Iron Warriors.  Cheers  Vogon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4874521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Could do a squad of khorne berzerkers instead. I'm building up some right now with bp and chain axes that are in mk3 armour and will be painted in IW scheme except they will have a khorne symbol on their opposite shoulder pad and they will be covered in splattered blood As for havocs i think lascannons or autocannons are both good shouts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4874865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I should of added what's your plan with those bp/cs csm? Without a rhino they will be pretty much useless If you really want them them build them but i could see the points being used more effectively else where Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4874867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogon Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I think that I'm missing some melee capability for going and grabbing objectives. I will probably get them a rhino to move them about the board but in games where tactical objectives are used hanging back and shooting always the best idea.  Cheers  Vogon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4874957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshed Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Havocs are always nice, I've usually armed them with 2 Las an autocannon and rocket launcher. Works out fairly well for me. Â But looking at your list it seems like you could use more Marines to give you some flexibility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4875135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogon Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm definitely adding another 10 marines the question is Bolter or Chainsword? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4875297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Bolters! Vogon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4875435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'd give the havocs rocket launchers. They are the best weapon in 8th. For melee I'd get some Berserkers. They are the best csm melee fighters. Vogon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4875477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'd give the havocs rocket launchers. They are the best weapon in 8th. Â Is that so? Would you say because of their flexible rocket choices? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/48/#findComment-4875506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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