Brother Heinrich Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Excellent work on the Apothecary, as usual! I'll have to be the odd one out, however, in that I can see why you're unhappy with the wolf: While he's certainly competently painted, he lacks the certain "je ne sais quoi" of your usual work: Normally, all of your models are instantly recognisable as kizzdougs pieces because your style is so distinct -- even your World Eater, and he was just as heavily weathered as this guy. Anyway, a cool model, but I am looking forward to seeing your second attempt at painting him! If anything Kizz's style seems to include very well defined and precise edge highlighting, something that isn't very clear on the wolf model. That's probably why it doesn't jump out at you. Look at his Word Bearers, Night Lords and Emperors Children, they all have a "pop" effect from high contrast edge highlighting. While that is the norm, I think it's always great to see hobbyists evolve their style and I like the more gritty, down to earth vibe of the Wolf. It contrasts excellently with his pristine III Legion peacocks ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 @ Brother Heinrich: Sorry, but I'll have to disagree here: Look at kizzdougs' World Eater: That guy is as far away from the Emperor's Children as possible, yet you'd still immediately attribute the piece to kizzdougs, because it has that particular look. I wasn't really referring to the clean, edge-highlighted look, but rather to a certain stylistic tightness, a "unity of effect", if you will -- and the Wolf doesn't (yet) have that, in my opinion. It's a decently painted, heavily battle-damaged SW model, but it lacks the oomph of kizzdougs' other HH models -- which is why I can really sympathise with his urge to repaint the armour, even if I would probably call it "good enough" by my own standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Suitably and typically exquisiten Apothecary.My immediate thought on seeing the Wolf, even though I knew otherwise, was 'Cool Executioner'. The grey is so dark and there's so much metallic weathering that it looks like a very dark metallic scheme rather than weathered grey. I think your grey might be too dark, almost black. Which is a good way to actually do black, but it's not quite Space Wolves. I know they're not the grey-blue of 40k in the Heresy-era, but they're not Iron Hands either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I forgot to take my camera to the Campaign Day, but I've downloaded some pics taken by other players who attended. My army for the day. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/12311136_10154333249893776_8822052875382322987_n_zpsbeibleng.jpg A couple of the other fully painted armies at the event. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/12274456_10154333249768776_4348368348287239835_n_zpsotplofdf.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/12316135_10154333250003776_3238508778861763906_n_zpsyxmd8fm6.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/12291664_10208376396513817_3965180332322178862_o_zpsv4qt0ex6.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/12273655_10208376389993654_3914522437052563444_o_zpsysgpvnsv.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/11222467_10154333250743776_2081962292202857312_n_zpssutczmgt.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/12316518_10154333250698776_387887756676221801_n_zps8rvwtkrf.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/12316504_10154333250563776_2585057426439400172_n_zpslzslifpk.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/12301515_10154333250178776_8780739981595530532_n_zpsbc5elj9v.jpg I wouldn't change a thing about the weathering. It looks realistic.What colors did you use? The grey is spot on. Glad you like him, bro. The armour is just Mechanicus Standard Grey with a Nuln Oil wash. Super simple. It looks much darker and more complex because of the weathering. I wouldn't change a thing about the weathering. It looks realistic.What colors did you use? The grey is spot on. I agree with Marshal Rohr 100%. Don't change a thing on the armor! Thanks, bro! Glad you like him. Primus Medicae advocate represent! Seriously, you have no idea how Bummed I was when they gained Support Officer D: Space Wolf looks good to me. Yeah, It would be great if they didn't have 'support officer', especially in the Emperor's Children who were know for having a large number of apothecaries/medicaes. Imo, and this may be the lighting, the space wolf looks like he's metallic because of the weathering Yeah, that's how I feel too. The metallics are a bit too heavy and end up confusing the actual armour colour. Pics from.the campaign day buddy would be awesome man SalvationOfReason, Daemon2027, Thrillhouse and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Your army (and all the other guys) looks fantastic on there mate. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying out a different style, one of my best painting experiences reacently was trying out your EC scheme, even if I havent quite finished him yet. Kizzdougs 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Great army shots! I would also like to see you paint up the Wolf with non metallic weathering before I make a final decision. I find the metallic makes him look a little "busy" I suppose. Kizzdougs 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Dude looks great! So now you've got a game under your belt how do you feel? Kizzdougs 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 So, I've just finished this mini diorama for the Eye of Horus Podcast diorama comp. If I had a bit more time and hadn't left it to the last minute I could have produced something a bit better, but I'm still fairly happy with how it turned out. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3870_zpsouexcnmw.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3872_zps4kirapy8.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3875_zpsioamhq11.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3880_zpsfbidc9ge.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3881_zpsaztcdatx.jpg Your army (and all the other guys) looks fantastic on there mate. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying out a different style, one of my best painting experiences reacently was trying out your EC scheme, even if I havent quite finished him yet. Thanks, bro!! Yeah, I'm still waiting to see the finished product ;) Great army shots!I would also like to see you paint up the Wolf with non metallic weathering before I make a final decision. I find the metallic makes him look a little "busy" I suppose. Thanks, dude! I'm just in the process of repainting the armour now, so hopefully I'll have some pictures to share soonish :) Dude looks great!So now you've got a game under your belt how do you feel? Thanks, bro! It was a pretty fun day all up. I've definitely highlighted some weaknesses in my army that need to be fixed though. Thanks for looking ;) Brother-Chaplain Kage, Raztalin, Ramell and 24 others 27 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 What Timing considering the recent Thousand Sons news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Dude your a shoe in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Wow. An amazing diorama - it looks like the silence before the storm. Does it have a title? That 1000 son makes me feel sad you're not doing them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Holy :cuss that diorama is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 At first I though that the Thousand Son was leaning a bit back but that might be the angle. It's a beautiful my constructed scene, and your painting is, as always, very good. I would like to see to see you make more Thousand Sons and Custodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Awesome! Think I've said it before, but I absolutely love that gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The custodes facial expression is so perfect "I'm gonna tear your :cuss: head off" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 That confrontation is immense, you've really created a tense atmosphere with your diorama. Perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Full of awesome this thread is. Fantastic diorama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Ok the diorama is great but I do say the base isn't up the high standard of the minis you actually put on it. Some marbelling or shadowing effects on it would really help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Thanks for the kind words everyone! I've had a go at fixing up the Space Wolf's armour. The difference is subtle, but I think it works much better. Having said that, now I'm starting to think that the armour is just too dark to begin with... Before http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3856_zpsgg1ht2pg.jpg After http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3884_zpsbrtwpdxa.jpg http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3885_zpsye74glgg.jpg I've also built a XVI Legion test mini. I just need to decide whether to paint him as a Catulan Reaver or not. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3883_zpslxcjuhgi.jpg What Timing considering the recent Thousand Sons news... Indeed. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the XVth Legion around the place. Amazing Thanks, bro! Dude your a shoe in Thanks, dude! Fingers crossed that they like it Wow. An amazing diorama - it looks like the silence before the storm. Does it have a title?That 1000 son makes me feel sad you're not doing them... Yeah, I feel sad too... they've always been one of my favourite Legions. I'm really looking forward to seeing what FW does for the specialist units. I might not be able to resist... I didn't end up giving the diorama a title but I did write a short description, explaining the ideas and thoughts behind it. Holy that diorama is awesome! Thanks a lot, dude! At first I though that the Thousand Son was leaning a bit back but that might be the angle. It's a beautiful my constructed scene, and your painting is, as always, very good. I would like to see to see you make more Thousand Sons and Custodes Thanks, mate! I'm not sure if I'll build anymore Custodes, but when FW get around to releasing them I'll definitely be getting a squad to go with my Emperor's Children. As for the Thousand Sons, I'll probably paint up a few when FW releases their special units/characters. Given the title of this thread it would be just wrong if I completely ignored the release of the XVth Legion. Awesome! Think I've said it before, but I absolutely love that gold. Thanks, bro! Glad you like the gold The custodes facial expression is so perfect "I'm gonna tear your : head off" Thanks, mate! The head is from the B@C set and is a pretty nice sculpt. It's strange that while the FW resin minis usually have a greater level of detail and sharper lines etc. the GW plastics always seem to produce better bare heads. That confrontation is immense, you've really created a tense atmosphere with your diorama. Perfect! Thank, dude! That's exactly what I was going for Full of awesome this thread is.Fantastic diorama. Thanks, bro! Glad you like the thread Thanks for looking GrandMagnus, Ramell, Checkmate and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The Space Wolf is excellently painted, but I must say I'm not really sold on it. I like that it's currently looking far less metallic, and I don't think it's too dark. I don't know, maybe I just have a general apathy towards the Wolves. That Diorama though is looking almost perfect. The painting is stunning, and the positioning is great. I'm nitpicking, but the only thing I think that would improve it is if the roles were reversed. Have the Custode at the bottom of the steps come to claim the Magnus for his legions crimes, and the Thousand Son at the top confronting him for the destruction on Prospreo. I really like the SoH, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how you paint him. Also where is that skull and chains bit from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 That diorama is indeed awesome, beautiful work. And as far as the XVith legion marine, even though I like the catulan reavers, I would love to see you tackle the sea-green of the Sons of Horus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The diorama is indeed awesome as everyone else has stated. It's a thing of joy to look at those pictures. As for the wolf, the one thing I do like about the repaint is that it brought out the eyes more. He looks more menacing now in my opinion. And for the Son of Horus, I honestly would love to see your take on that sea foam green they have going on. However, that guy sure looks like he would be a hard-as-nails reaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 New wolf looks loads better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyrstuart Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Echoing everyone else, that Wolf looks boss! I cant wait to see the Son of Horus, but my prejudice swings me in favor of the Wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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