thamier Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 A tabard is like the thing the Black Templars wear Maloghurst is already looking great, can't wait to see him complete :) yup, and a rabbard would cover all the wirk i did on the torso. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4603905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Well, okay then: Maybe a tabard's not exactly what I meant, because I am definitely not suggesting to cover up the work you've already done on his torso -- but I'd give him more of a skirt or ...erm the lower part of a tabard than a mere loincloth, mostly to give him more of a presence. As for being able to take it off, given the extent of his injuries, I'd suspect taking off his armour (and everything on top of it) would be the exception rather than the rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4603907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Well, okay then: Maybe a tabard's not exactly what I meant, because I am definitely not suggesting to cover up the work you've already done on his torso -- but I'd give him more of a skirt or ...erm the lower part of a tabard than a mere loincloth, mostly to give him more of a presence. As for being able to take it off, given the extent of his injuries, I'd suspect taking off his armour (and everything on top of it) would be the exception rather than the rule.hehe its hard to discribe an idea, english isent my first language and that dosent make it easyer either. but not a loincloth and not a tabard but some kind of manly space marine skirt, but i like it to be true to the airtwork and also plausible. so it is differcult and i really appreciate the coments and ideas you guys share here. i did a bit of greenstuff work on the legs and its not much but its progress http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/A7E12FC3-B5A9-4AB4-9594-561999BF5C61.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/ACBD762E-7960-4194-A274-5E7161693D13.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/3531B06C-36FB-4848-AEE5-1C8584514FE1.jpg Edited December 27, 2016 by thamier The Traitor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4604359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Manly space marine skirt... That would be something for sure :-P. Mal is looking good, I'm sure you'll get great results, can't wait to see more! This makes me rember you said some time ago that you improved your sculpting skills a lot thanks to acquiring the right tools... What is it excatly that you use? You always get such smooth surfaces in your conversions and I just wondered how did you manage that. Pd: English isn't my first lenguage either, I understand that sometimes it's difficult to express something in the forum, specially on specific and technical subjects such as "astartes clothing" ;-)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4604522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Manly space marine skirt... That would be something for sure :-P. Mal is looking good, I'm sure you'll get great results, can't wait to see more! This makes me rember you said some time ago that you improved your sculpting skills a lot thanks to acquiring the right tools... What is it excatly that you use? You always get such smooth surfaces in your conversions and I just wondered how did you manage that. Pd: English isn't my first lenguage either, I understand that sometimes it's difficult to express something in the forum, specially on specific and technical subjects such as "astartes clothing" ;-)... That i wanna know too. My surfaces are rough and i have to sand it down a lot. Saving that step would be so great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4604735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 Manly space marine skirt... That would be something for sure :-P. Mal is looking good, I'm sure you'll get great results, can't wait to see more! This makes me rember you said some time ago that you improved your sculpting skills a lot thanks to acquiring the right tools... What is it excatly that you use? You always get such smooth surfaces in your conversions and I just wondered how did you manage that. Pd: English isn't my first lenguage either, I understand that sometimes it's difficult to express something in the forum, specially on specific and technical subjects such as "astartes clothing" ;-)... That i wanna know too. My surfaces are rough and i have to sand it down a lot. Saving that step would be so great. i did say that, ill take some pictures of the tools tomorrow and post them, have a look tomorrow, a few i made myself but most bought at local store and some freom greenstuff world, and if i dont get the desire look from sculpting i cheat and file and sand it smooth ;) The Traitor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4604787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 sculpting tools! i took a few pictures mosy of them are silicone tiped clayshapers from arts and craft stores or from green stuff world, most are firm and a few soft, keeping them dampnand clean makes for very smooth finish since the tips are nonstick, also have metal tools, the balltiped tools from greenstuf world again and the dentist like sculpting tools from galeforce 9. the few tools i made myself is four detail tools made from metal sewing pinn needles, i heated one and flatend it and the others are pretty much just used as is, i glued them into anbit of wooden rod for handle, then added greystuff around the base for some strength . other than thsi i always use gloves when working with green or greystuff, have paper handy and a cup of water to wet the tools, some silicone baking sheet is also quite handy, i bought one and cut it into smaller bits useful for mixing and flatning the greenstuff on and under the nonstick surface. http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/9C759591-2EAD-4B4D-96E9-C8554D373F61.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/9DBA010E-5228-4465-86AA-AA3C0085819A.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/2D852F91-2DD4-44CE-B04C-4D68EAA3D6BA.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/EFD52D1D-4FEF-441D-830E-FCE14713650E.jpg hope that helps any questions or comments just let me know ;) The Traitor and Teetengee 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4605367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Thanks a lot that is a DAMN LOT OF TOOLS! Apart from that do you use normal latex gloves or something else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4605420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Thx alot. I will get some of the stuff and take your tips to heart. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4605437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 Thanks a lot that is a DAMN LOT OF TOOLS! Apart from that do you use normal latex gloves or something else? hehe well they are all shapes and sizes depending on the job its good to have just in case. and just normal hospital style gloves. Thx alot. I will get some of the stuff and take your tips to heart. jsut hope it can make things easier for you :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4605460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 little by little maloghurst is taking shape http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/AEADDA01-86B3-4E5A-B77A-D7F84D6EA324.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/BEFE63E1-87DE-45F2-B095-6BE7B7440284.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/4955EDF9-8A87-44F7-BC4F-8F4F9A2B568D.jpg what do you think? to early to tell? BrotherJim, The Traitor, m0nolith and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4605664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandrian Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 i think Maloghurst is coming along well! The way you have positioned the chest and head already give the model the feel that he is having some back issues lol!. Are you planning to do so sort of spinal contraption or support on his back/on his backpack? Almost like a corrective medical spin to try and keep me stable as he walks around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4605746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemac Vradon Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Maloghurst is looking really cool Thamier! I will have to try out reposing some legs myself. Nemac Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4606307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 i think Maloghurst is coming along well! The way you have positioned the chest and head already give the model the feel that he is having some back issues lol!. Are you planning to do so sort of spinal contraption or support on his back/on his backpack? Almost like a corrective medical spin to try and keep me stable as he walks around. no spinal contraption planned, gonna aim close to the artwork s i can and tjen a awsome paintjob. Maloghurst is looking really cool Thamier! I will have to try out reposing some legs myself. Nemac it goes a very long way just ajusting legs a bit makes the models much cooler. now update time! Tadaaaaaaaaa! http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/C7FC7B42-D348-451A-9B8C-C635BBDEC56A.jpg BrotherJim 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4606707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 hehe okay maybe a better update, same bit of plastic card but adter a few hours of filing and sanding and a hanful of ajustments http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/294AAEB4-17FC-478D-8EBB-79E012A561ED.jpg Rangaman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4606734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Man, the patience that must have taken. I'd never be able to get that. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4606865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I tried to do the pitchfork base for my Maloghurst conversion too...man, I do not have the patience for that. Yours looks great though, looking forward to the finished model! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4606878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Man, the patience that must have taken. I'd never be able to get that. :) well i had friends to chat with while i worked on it at the gaming club also had netflix as backup ;) I tried to do the pitchfork base for my Maloghurst conversion too...man, I do not have the patience for that. Yours looks great though, looking forward to the finished model! i love to see your maloghurst, have any picture of it? sbother update sculpting continues http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/66057999-AE62-4096-8B06-8B08ECDB344F.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/6D50951A-5721-4FA6-9097-BE22B7DE0AF3.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/0F560B46-B001-47D0-8613-4F2B7E86C2DA.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/95B62C3B-B7D9-4E83-BA19-8D02B7D63512.jpg The Traitor, Augustus b'Raass, Rangaman and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4607004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 My Maloghurst is no where near as intensive as your conversion, honestly yours is a complete resculpt and mine is a few parts swaps/minor sculpting. I imagine FW will eventually do a Chaos-ified version to match his artwork in the future so my take is on a Pre-Heresy Maloghurst. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4607727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemac Vradon Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 That's just awesome. Have you ever done a tutorial on how you work with greenstuff? If not it would be very much appreciated :D Nemac Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4607729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I am very confident that the detailing on your Maloghurst will end up looking fantastic. If I can make one small suggesion, however: I really prefer the more static alignment of his head to the more dynamic pose you've used in the new mockup: I matched the artwork more closely, for one, and it also hints at the severity of his injuries: Maybe he has lost some mobility in his entire torso and something as simple as turning his head is no longer all that easy for him -- I really got a bit of a Darth Vader-vibe from the very first mockup, and I think it would fit the character (and the art) rather perfectly! In any case, keep up the excellent work! :) Bryan Blaire and Augustus b'Raass 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4607826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 My Maloghurst is no where near as intensive as your conversion, honestly yours is a complete resculpt and mine is a few parts swaps/minor sculpting. I imagine FW will eventually do a Chaos-ified version to match his artwork in the future so my take is on a Pre-Heresy Maloghurst. i really like that model, its a cool maloghurst. That's just awesome. Have you ever done a tutorial on how you work with greenstuff? If not it would be very much appreciated :D Nemac ill see what i can do, but its a slow process :) I am very confident that the detailing on your Maloghurst will end up looking fantastic. If I can make one small suggesion, however: I really prefer the more static alignment of his head to the more dynamic pose you've used in the new mockup: I matched the artwork more closely, for one, and it also hints at the severity of his injuries: Maybe he has lost some mobility in his entire torso and something as simple as turning his head is no longer all that easy for him -- I really got a bit of a Darth Vader-vibe from the very first mockup, and I think it would fit the character (and the art) rather perfectly! In any case, keep up the excellent work! :) i got his legs set and the upper body tagged on, and took apicture before seeing your comment, but the head isent glued in yet. the aim is to having him walk down the strp and leaning on the banner for support, hopefully it will give him the look of weight and a hint at his injuries. http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/38C67C5A-4B32-433B-AD3F-36B06E22D5D5.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/51CA4A7F-1E1A-4648-A504-53ED48946289.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/A199FC79-7CD0-4696-B989-DA8D55D8527D.jpg Hrolf the Cunning, Vairocanum, Augustus b'Raass and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4608004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 i also been wondering what weapons to give him. his wargear says bolt pistol and boltgun and powersword, so for hos other aem im thinking a bolt pistol, the boltgun seems too heavy to be hefted onehanded and he dosent seem to be so close combat oriented so powersword might be okay in a scabbard, what do you all think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4608177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Power cane? I love that guy, great work on the torso. I'd buy a box just for that if it was available:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4608207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Amazing conversion work so far, eager to see how this will turn out. I think the power sword in a scabbard is a good idea. Perhaps the boltgun could be in a sling under his arm? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/73/#findComment-4608253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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