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[Wicced]

i'm not digging the idea of shielding the plasma and i think it wouldn't work. sure the plasma cell is shielded, but what about the "projectile" leaving the barrel?

and i presume a standard astartes helm would have some kind of default flash suppression, which a crafty night lord might modify to his own liking.

[Kol Saresk]

You woild need something for that initial flash, but for the most part it'll be there and gone, like a bottle rocket.

 

Then again, one could argue that the Astartes helm's automatic adjustment to various levels is more than enough to compensate for any weapons fire.

 

In the eye of the beholder is where I'd ultimately end up leaving it.

[RolandTHTG]

I could see it for a 'stealth' look. It would allow you to launch a surprise attack with plasma. But I don't think the eyesight reasoning holds up. 

[Augustus b'Raass]

Yeah shielding the plasma chamber makes the NL more stealthy - and when the plasma bolts start flying stealth isn't necessary anymore anyway. I agree with TJWyrm ^^ :tu:

[Chandrian]

Soooo for any of those who missed the first T/Sweater sale....like me ...... and yes I've been keeping an eye on this since then    

 

This relaunched:  http://teespring.com/ave-dominus-nox#pid=212&cid=5822&sid=front    

*scurries back to lurking*

[Tenebris]

... I thought it worth mentioning... today I will begin to read the Night Lords series... It was due time to devour this awesome piece of wordsmithing by ADB...

[Phantomzero17]

Soooo for any of those who missed the first T/Sweater sale....like me ...... and yes I've been keeping an eye on this since then    

 

This relaunched:  http://teespring.com/ave-dominus-nox#pid=212&cid=5822&sid=front    

 

*scurries back to lurking*

Still bothers me that the T-shirt doesn't come in blue.  Maybe I'll drop for black or grey.

[Marshal Traben]

I might get the hoodie in black.

[Slips]

I got it in Navy the last time, and TBH the Eight Pointed Star isn't that visible. So consider White/Blue over Black if you want the full image.

[Marshal Traben]

Too late, i just put my reservation for a black XL size hoodie.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Brother Khairon

[Slips]

Oh well, no harm to foul, lol :p

 

Thing is comfy as hell been wearing it more or less all week.

[Marshal Traben]

Honestly, i liked the black hoodie more than the blue or grey ones. 

 

My The First Expedition hoodie which i got last year at the Games Day, is from the same manufacturer.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Brother Khairon

[Flint13]

... I thought it worth mentioning... today I will begin to read the Night Lords series... It was due time to devour this awesome piece of wordsmithing by ADB...

This is how it starts. I'll keep a spot open in our legion roster for you ^_~

 

@ Haelim - got a black T in small. As predicted, thing is still like a circus tent on me. I use it as pajamas ^_^

Edited November 7, 2014 by Flint13

[Tenebris]

No worries, I am not set on the VIIIth legion, though I appreciate to have a spot in the line. I do in fact have a single Night Lord in my warband (and several of his astartes) named Marcoman the Lictor, a Night Lord scholar of sorts, who embraced this persona of judge, jury and executioner a bit too literal. He is a collector of ancient law texts, important cases and so on and when his warband was attacked by the Arrogant Sons he was recognized as a fellow scholar soul when he was willing to trade the lives of his warriors in order to spare his vast collection and library of law texts from the flames...

 

In simple terms he is the classic Night Lord who took a step too far in roleplaying judge (confessions are sweet when the victim screams its guilt to everyone... kind of). His role in my warband is that of a notary, of the confidante of my Sorcerer Lord, and the gruesome twosome made some really interesting ... contracts... with other warbands, with single warriors, with daemons... contracts in a very literal sense of the term as actual bindings of two souls to a purpose. 

 

Yesterday I have read the Shadow Knight and it was a nice intro, philosophical in some verses but indeed a sweet introduction to the character. I really liked it. 

[Skrall]

On a subject of night lords on the tabletop, i've begun to develop the 31st company. I've one my first marine and wouldn't mind a little feedback. I've also given my project a great title with a less than subtle nod... The Doomstar Requiem.

 

Oh and has anyone heard anything on when we'll see konrad or severtarion?

 

-skrall

[Kol Saresk]

I believe the rumors said before the end of the year.

[Noctem Cultor]

I believe the rumors said before the end of the year.

 

It will be great to get a full look at both of them. I imagine its going to be a Christmas treat for alot of us 

 

Well seems my shielded Volkite/Plasma idea is a divided one, its more the stealth and constant irritant (I believe its mentioned in the NL Trilogy that the slaves have to turn off or lower their lamp packs as even those irritate the NL). Anyway im happy with it and now have a painted version up, if anything it just sets my Warband apart that little more.

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad165/Liamgregg1988/Night%20Lords%20WIP/VolkiteCharger_zps70b3032d.jpg

[Kol Saresk]

Honestly, if I was Forgeworld, I think I'd go with a one-two punch. One before the end of the year, and the other not soon after. That way, you create interest while also keeping the consumers conservative that you will get an immediate response when the second model releases.

[Augustus b'Raass]

Honestly, if I was Forgeworld, I think I'd go with a one-two punch. One before the end of the year, and the other not soon after. That way, you create interest while also keeping the consumers conservative that you will get an immediate response when the second model releases.

Shhhhshhhshhhhhhhhh!!!! Don't give them any ideas you fool! Must. Have. ASAP.

[incinerator950]

I thought the exposed ridge was apart of the coolant system.

[Noctem Cultor]

I thought the exposed ridge was apart of the coolant system.

 

I know on a Plasmagun that part is Magnetic Accelerator Coils. Not sure on how the Volkite weaponry works but if similar I would imagine it to get hot with use, I will be painting heat stress on the shield plating when finished.

 

Back on the FW NL subject. How many of you are thinking of getting Sev for a 40k force to use/convert for a Lord? I can see him being very popular for this seeing as the Night Lord Hero is no where near as awesome looking.

[Tenebris]

Second feedback incoming. I have finished reading Soul Hunter and as it is the case with ADB's books it was an awesome story, with interesting characters and down into the meat of the things, the grit and grime of life in a Chaos warband. It was as you promised Kol, a very interesting book from that point of view. 

 

Personally I quite liked this interpretation of the Night Lords, their observance of purity, even if it costs them, makes their warband perilously under strength as well as their interactions with their slaves. Still it is as ADB wrote, Talos is an atypical Night Lord and he is not the standard set by the legion, the other characters better fill the bill.

 

In terms of actions the narrative was nicely paced and it it did not wade needlessly into "bolter-porn" as it the case with so many BL novels and in proper ADB fashion it was gritty, almost realistic (another thing I appreciate in his works).

 

The most interesting facet of the book was how ADB tried to explain the death of Kurze and the ramifications it had for the VIIIth legion. How petty in truth were the captains of the Night Lords and how quickly the legion was able to shed even the last strains of dignity it had (after the assassination of the Night Haunter) for trinkets and temporal power. Even so this is my only critique of the novel, it wades a bit too much in the Night Lord's allegory and mythology but seeing it as the first interpretation of the Night Lords after ten and more years of canon it had to be done, the novel had the goal to present the VIIIth legion, perhaps ti felt so because I read it in 2014 and not with the eyes of one in 2010 when it was released (which then meant almost zero legion/chaos novels).

 

All in all my personal vote is a 7/10, (in 2010 would be 8-9/10) and as Kol promised it is indeed a must have book in the collection of any Chaos Space Marines player worth his name.

 

I am eager to discuss it with you Night Lords...

 

 

Ave Dominus Nox! 

 

 

PS: For Shadow Knight my vote would be a 6/10, it does the job well as a short story which introduces several characters and it also waxes philosophical on some interesting aspects. A good reading but IMO just a medium to introduce the reader to the Soul Hunter series. The vote is because I would love to read more of it and because it is just an introduction. 

Edited November 9, 2014 by Tenebris

[Flint13]

That's a pretty on point synopsis. 

 

I'll agree 100% that my favorite thing about A D-B's work is that he typically adds a much more "realistic" aspect to his work. As much so as 30/40k could ever be called realistic, I suppose

 

But it gives his characters so much more flavor and really got me more attached to them, because they felt like an actual military unit with believable interactions outside of the bolter-porn. In the omnibus edition's foreword, A D-B even touches on how many legitimate military professionals have contacted him to say pretty much the same. That he has conveyed that sense of brotherhood, even though you may not be able to stand the person next to you as soon as the fighting is through. There are so many moments from any of the three novels that are so unique, and I love each of them for it. 

 

Shadow Knight was when I knew I was in love with 10th Company and made me immediately snap up Soul Hunter on express ship from Amazon (back before I had my ipad or kindle!). I liked so much (especially on subsequent readings) that it really isn't centered around Talos, but around 1st claw as a whole. It was really when I first realized that this wasn't another generic bunch of interchangeable marines, just with spikey shoulderguards. These were living, breathing characters who had a distinct personality. Personalities that were from a time before the rigid indoctrination and religious zealotry of "modern" 40k warrior-monk Space Marines. Again, they function like a believable military unit who have fought together for ages, recognizing each other's failings, strengths and even how the others will react to certain situations. 

 

The first time I read about Cyrion shutting off his vox so no one would hear him laughing uproariously, it blew my mind. These weren't the Ultramarines I had been reading about so recently in Mr. McNeil's work. It gave me an entirely different take on what an Adeptus Astartes could be. Like us... just cooler

 

But my absolute favorite line of the entire work is in the first few pages of Soul Hunter. 

 

"This is no mere vengeance. My right to destroy is greater than your right to live."

 

While there will always be a dozen different motivations and themes for what drives each of our splinters of the 8th, that is what the Night Lords are to me, summed up in a perfect few little words. The depth of feeling, whether is it regret, passion, hatred, spite, lust, is unfathomable on a human scale and I love it. That is why they will always be my legion. 

Edited November 10, 2014 by Flint13

[Tenebris]

They must be brought to obey through fear of the consequences, not crushed into obedience by hopeless depression. The former breeds motivated, willing workers who wish to survive. The latter breeds suicidal husks that care nothing for pleasing their masters.’

 

From Blood Reaver, by ADB (Chapter: The City at Night)

 

As I have said, I love the bookmark feature in the e-book format. The above is what I think the is Night Lords philosophy in a nutshell. 

[Flint13]

"Under fire," Cyrion voxed to the Covenant. He sounded amused.

"Barely," Septimus's master amended.

"I've got this one," Xarl said, rising out of cover, his bolter in his fist. On the side of the lander, the single weapon detonated under the kiss of the explosive bolt shell.

"Another glorious victory," Cyrion chuckled in the silence that fell afterwards.

 

My initial thoughts: Are these space marines? ... they seem... hilarious. These are the space marines that I want to play! Gawd, I hope the rest of the novel is like this!

 

and it was. And it was *awesome*