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[helterskelter]

Have you considered liquid green stuff for raised runes? If you were aiming for raised and not carved in that is

[Noctem Cultor]

 

Have you considered liquid green stuff for raised runes? If you were aiming for raised and not carved in that is

I didn't think about that, but I don't see why that couldn't work. I'll have to test it out in a week when I'm finally able to do some hobbying.

 

 

I have done some more runes in my w.i.p blog. I tried etching them in but I don't feel it worked well let me know if the liquid green stuff works well for you!

[Noctem Cultor]

The Long Night Audios out.

Finally some more Sevatar action.

Edited January 2, 2015 by Noctem Cultor

[Kol Saresk]

The Long Night is pretty good. Not what I expected though.

[Noctem Cultor]

The Long Night is pretty good. Not what I expected though.

 

Just downloading it now, to be honest as long as its good NL writing im happy we are still getting some attention.

 

Did anyone listen to The Watcher as it was one or the other and I opted for Sev over the Primarch (I know another Sin in my long list but im sure ill live....for now)

[Conn Eremon]

The Long Night is pretty good. Not what I expected though.

Spoilers for the non-audio inclined?

[Noctem Cultor]

 

The Long Night is pretty good. Not what I expected though.

Spoilers for the non-audio inclined?

 

 

Official Story Synopsis

 

 

The Dark Angels and the Night Lords fought one another to a bloody stalemate during the Thramas Crusade and, though the Lion eventually claimed victory, it left both Legions scattered and under-strength. Jago Sevatarion, First Captain of the Night Lords, languishes in a gaol cell in the heart of Ultramar. Far from a spent force, the Night Lords must consider where their loyalties lie, and what path they will take in the days and months to come.

 

Quick summary

Sevatar's gift is now slowly killing him as we previously knew. He is in a separate cell. He is chatting to Ghost or so he thinks its an Astropath who says she can help him control his 'gift' as she is part of a Choir and they all felt his dreams.

She is beaten for talking to him and Sevatar like a rare few NL decides that does not sit well with him. He is getting transferred with the rest of the NL prisoners (though not at the same time seems they decided to take him seriously).

She is powerful and hold his guard in stasis, he kills the Librarian to ease the strain and then makes his way to her to dispense some NL style justice with a chainsaw. Has a Night Haunter esc moment and then gets captured again but this time his curse/gift seems to be at ease or just his soul (its not really explained).

 

So No other Night Lords or even the Raven make an appearance hey maybe the jail break is next novel.

 

To be honest although im always happy for some more of the 1st Captain, I was hoping for more progression to help us figure out the grand plans for Sevatar, is there a chance he is still alive like Uzas of First Claw and many other claim or did he die during the Heresy!

[helterskelter]

I know these are separate novels/audios, but, why are the DA so fraggin inept? Like beyond forgivable rank ineptitude. Curze gets loose, lionel richie forgets to mention the first company is on his ship. Curze of still being loose, is not relentlessly hunted down AND they decide moving prisoners around is a good idea? Especially Sevatar. You don't just neglect these details. It does not compute to me in the slightest. I disliked DA before. Now? No time for them whatsoever. Full novels about them will be henceforth purchased for completion only. The little watcher creatures are worse. They threaten to kill the lion on caliban in case he's corrupt but luther waltzs about covered in sigils summoning stuff. I hope whoever write about his not turning up to terra makes lionel look like a total :cuss. Sorry i can't believe this legion got one up on the NL. Stupid xenos. Sorry again

[Kol Saresk]

No one knows where Curze is. The last anyone saw of him he was being sucked into the warp by a daemon. The only reason we know he is somewhere in the mountains in Macragge is because we(the readers) got to see him dumped there after he tore the daemon a new one.

 

And yeah, if I had to choose between a battle-barge or one of the most secure planets in the Imperium that is currently serving home to three Primarchs and only Cthulthu knows how many Astartes for a prison, I'd pick the planet.

 

It just so happened that Sevatar got an astropath of umpteenth level psyker abilities to like him. And freeze his guards in transit so he could escape.

 

So yeah, it's not exactly like the Dark Angels are getting it easy. And remember, they had to chase the Night Lords for three years before Sheol. If there's one thing the VIII is good at, its running into the shadows. Shouldn't really be a surprise they're good at it.

[Noctem Cultor]

It just so happened that Sevatar got an astropath of umpteenth level psyker abilities to like him. And freeze his guards in transit so he could escape.

 

He does have a lot of luck for a Night Lord and his other gift is to apparently win over the ladies 

Prince of Crows or Prince Charming?

[Kol Saresk]

The Charming Prince of Crows?

[helterskelter]

Might just be me, but personally if i'd had 3 legions worth of astartes i'd have been inclined to execute the first company of Night Lords. Considering how happy the lion is to kill his own men. I know the answers: plot and reasons, exist but I still think over the course of the DA versus NL, DA are continually making mistakes that should not be made. And if it wasn't for the xenos they picked up, lionel would be rocking back and forth in the foetal position surrounded by flayed corpses. I'm trying desperately not to sound like a fanboy either, because i do like stories about the other legions, I think what I'm getting at is DA could have been written alot better in my opinion

[Noctem Cultor]

Its true DA vs NL so far comes across as DA won but in reality we are really winning. Maybe Night Haunters prophecy has messed a little with the Lions head (if so it needs to be written to explain this). I guess I haven't really questioned it before as the NL were my focus.

[Flint13]

No one knows where Curze is. The last anyone saw of him he was being sucked into the warp by a daemon. The only reason we know he is somewhere in the mountains in Macragge is because we(the readers) got to see him dumped there after he tore the daemon a new one.

 

And yeah, if I had to choose between a battle-barge or one of the most secure planets in the Imperium that is currently serving home to three Primarchs and only Cthulthu knows how many Astartes for a prison, I'd pick the planet.

 

It just so happened that Sevatar got an astropath of umpteenth level psyker abilities to like him. And freeze his guards in transit so he could escape.

 

So yeah, it's not exactly like the Dark Angels are getting it easy. And remember, they had to chase the Night Lords for three years before Sheol. If there's one thing the VIII is good at, its running into the shadows. Shouldn't really be a surprise they're good at it.

Wait, so I just pieced this together after listening to Long Night... but does this mean that in Unremembered Empire, a substantial portion of the 8th Legion, including Sev, are just kinda hanging out in orbit over the burgeoning Imperium Secondus? ... now with minimal security considering most of them got jettisoned down to the planet in Kurze's hilariously timed drop pod shenanigans? 

 

I know these are separate novels/audios, but, why are the DA so fraggin inept? Like beyond forgivable rank ineptitude. Curze gets loose, lionel richie forgets to mention the first company is on his ship. Curze of still being loose, is not relentlessly hunted down AND they decide moving prisoners around is a good idea? Especially Sevatar. You don't just neglect these details. It does not compute to me in the slightest. I disliked DA before. Now? No time for them whatsoever. Full novels about them will be henceforth purchased for completion only. The little watcher creatures are worse. They threaten to kill the lion on caliban in case he's corrupt but luther waltzs about covered in sigils summoning stuff. I hope whoever write about his not turning up to terra makes lionel look like a total . Sorry i can't believe this legion got one up on the NL. Stupid xenos. Sorry again

 

First, a little bit of a pet peeve of mine (don't take it personal ) Why do folks continue to relate the Lion to Lionel Ritchie, much in the way they do Kurze to Batman? Lion El'Jonson is based on the late 19 century poet Lionel Johnson, bff of Oscar Wilde. 

 

But! I don't think it is so much that the Dark Angels are inept, I think it's more that they are trying to fight the Night Lords in exactly the way that the 8th legion excels. Astartes are roughly equal to each other physically and mentally, so when you have one legion predictably moving about their ship as unimaginative jailers and the 8th tossed directly into their element of shadowplay and guerrilla warfare, it only highlights how good the Night Lords have gotten at making the most out of situations in which they are forced to play the underdog. 

 

This goes doubly so when we look at the Primarch battle contained there. An armored Templar chasing a living shadow through the bowels of a capitol ship does not exactly put the Lion in his best element... Especially since the First Legion flagship seems to be the most stereotypical sci-fi space craft ever. ie...

 

1.) Five or more abandoned decks for every populated and well traveled one

B.) Huge unused voids of space with fantastical high ceilings spanned by girders. 

2.) Only half or less of the light fixtures work, and those that do flicker intermittently.

3.) Everything is inexplicably wet. 

4.) Probably a room somewhere containing nothing but superfluous chains hanging from the ceiling. 

 

The Long Night is pretty good. Not what I expected though.

 

Just downloading it now, to be honest as long as its good NL writing im happy we are still getting some attention.

 

Did anyone listen to The Watcher as it was one or the other and I opted for Sev over the Primarch (I know another Sin in my long list but im sure ill live....for now)

 

The Watcher was pretty awesome, if short and yet another shot across the bow of Space Wolf fans. (whats the deal with the 20 min dramas btw? They used to be about an hour each...).

 

Anywho, in short, it was hilarious.

 

A Space Wolf watch pack shows up to a 8th legion flagship and the Night Lords wait just long enough for them to dock before they begin a round of soccer hooligan-esque beatings. Seriously, they don't even really bother with weapons. Several thousand legionnaires just pound the crap out of the Wolves. It was like the author sat down and was like "I'm tired of all this Space Wolf 'we are the best legion' crap. Imma just show them what I think of that :D

 

But you also get to see the induction of a Space Wolf into the Knights Errant, which I thought was neat.

Edited January 3, 2015 by Flint13

[helterskelter]

If there was a more popular Lionel that's what he'd get called. It's actually nothing in relation to his character, and I use it as wholly derogatory. I'll refrain from it's usage in our hallowed section of forum hereon though. I just find it difficult that you would spend three years trying to stop a guy, and not deal with it before you got to an important destination, and fail for it to be the first thing mentioned when you got there. I'm beginning to think I'm wired wrong! (Insert awkward laughter as appropriate)

[Kol Saresk]

@Flint: No, remember the only people who were captured were the Atramentar that Sevatar ordered to board and whoever was on the ship Cirze hijacked. The rest of the Legion is still scattered across the Eastern Fringe.

[Flint13]

Ah, so it's just the Atramentar and Sev hanging around up there? 

[Kol Saresk]

And whoever went over from the ship Curze was on. Oh, and the Raven. All in all, I'd only say a few hundred Night Lords, no more. Very easily less.

[Flint13]

Heh... If they get loose (for reals this time), it is not going to be fun for the 1st legion to root Sev and Rushal out of the air ducts and maintenance passages.

[Kol Saresk]

I wonder if Sevatar is the kind of Grade A Jerkwad who would pretend to be Rushal's ventriloquist. Not gonna lie, I really hope we see this. It could be like "I am Justice! I am Death! And I..... am a Mute! Trolololol!"

[helterskelter]

You know he is, come on now ;) and can you now see my point as to why its daft not to mention this to rob and sanguinius? I can see the conversation now

Lion: erm, i have a slight issue

Rob: issue?

Lion: what i forgot to mention, now heres the kicker, I didn't JUST have Curze on the ship

Sang: who else?

Lion: Sevatar and most of the Atramentar...

Rob: wheres the issue?

Lion: They escaped

Sang: you're a total :cuss lion, you know that right?

Lion: yeah, can't deny that one

[Kol Saresk]

Except no one has escaped. The one person who did actually went back to them after he finished what he wanted to.

 

Also, we're assuming Guilliman doesn't know there are Night Lord prisoners up there. The astropath girl never said where they were going, only that they were leaving the Invincible Reason.

 

In everything, the Dark angels have currently upped the Night Lords. They won the Thramas crusade. They've Shattered the VIIIth and they have captured or killed the elite of the Legion.

 

Literally the only difference is that the Night Lords have gotten better representation throughout the entire thing thanks to A D-B, Dan Abnett and Guy Haley. Meanwhile the Dark Angels have two novels that are only connected by having the same characters, and then a novella of irrationality while sidelining in another novel.

 

So yes, we as readers have every right to complain about the crappy representation the Dark Angels have received. But we as Night Lords do not have the right to magically think that better representation magically fixes the fact the Legion is split into six colossal chunks and only Cthulthu knows how many smaller ones.

[helterskelter]

I'm not saying the Night Lords should be better, I don't think anyone has done a bad job so far except the dodgey short from the advent calendar. Let me see if i can reword what I'm trying to say. Ah yeah, details seem to be have omitted from the novels, that i think would have made sense to include, which have the added effect of making the DA look bad to me. Has that helped any? I seriously loathe this text based malarky so i apologise if i've came off looking odd ar any point.

Plus my little bit of dialogue was for potential futute scenario, with the assumption it gets explained to us in a novel at some point. Though if it gets left to abnett or thorpe, it'll be some twirly mootache convenience

[Kol Saresk]

Personally I like Abnett's cartoony portrayal from Unremembered Empire. The whole series, everyone has been complaining that Primarchs have been underpowered and then they were complaining because it was Curze who was shown kicking everyone's rear all over the place just because Guilliman took 900 high explosive armor piercing rounds while he was butt naked.