Brofist Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I really do try to keep the cost down, but mine usually clock in around 250 point or so. Closer to 200 if I really specialize them into a role. It's easy to overspend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4655147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Tell me about it far to many options. Want him to smash face Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4655376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 What LoW is everyone using (if any) at 3K (750 LoW)? If been using Atropos but I haven't really tried or thought through the other 40K LoWs (Stormlord?) that are available to Reductor. And what about Porpyhrion? Thanks for the opinions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4656276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge the Daemon Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 What LoW is everyone using (if any) at 3K (750 LoW)? If been using Atropos but I haven't really tried or thought through the other 40K LoWs (Stormlord?) that are available to Reductor. And what about Porpyhrion? Thanks for the opinions. Realistically the best LOW option is a warhound but is generally regarded as rather unbalanced especially at 3k. Knights can be good the Porphyrion is okay I'm not sure it's worth it vs the warhound though. The D ordinatus is also not a bad option it has a really high damage output and is unkillable for the first few turns. It's worse than the Ullator but I wouldn't underestimate the ability of the huge machine killer D template in removing a deathstars on a good role or a tank company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4656282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 You answered your own question, the Warhound's profile is pretty outrageous for even 40K, much less 30K, so of course not much is "worth it" in comparison. The Porphyrion is a better choice because it's basically 4 medusas for roughly the cost of 4 medusas with a twist. fedratsailor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4656391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Â Â But the biggest deal is that the mechanicum doesn't have a single assault transport. Can't Mechanicum take a Stormlord? :)Nope. They cannot. They can take Super Heavies not listed in their book "which do not already have a heresy era counterpart" Stormlord has rules in the SA list so it's a no go for Mech. Sorry about the quote from an old post but so if an LoW exists in a 30K SA or Legion list you can't take it with Reductor Mech? You can only take 40k LoWs that are not on any SA or Legion list? Â That means no go on the Gorgon, the Spartan chassis tanks, the Fellblade / Baneblade chassis tanks. I don't think that leaves anything else. Bummer..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4656541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol_Invictus Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yeah, unfortunately you're basically left with the Macharius variants and a few other things. Â There was a pretty good discussion on it here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329037-can-ordo-reductors-matrix-of-ruin-foc-take-a-typhon-tank/?do=findComment&comment=4610602 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4656555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Atrapos Knight-Titan does the job for me. I personally think the Knight-Lancer is the more competitive option (I5 D spear is no joke), but I like my vortex-spewing monstrosity. Also nothing is funnier than D-lasering a Spartan then charging the cargo before they can really respond. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4656874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
em_en_oh_pee Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Atrapos Knight-Titan does the job for me. I personally think the Knight-Lancer is the more competitive option (I5 D spear is no joke), but I like my vortex-spewing monstrosity. Also nothing is funnier than D-lasering a Spartan then charging the cargo before they can really respond.  Just Knight. Sorry... pedant. Can't help it.  Also, lol to the phrase "D Spear". That made me chortle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4656951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmarred Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Hey guys I'm pretty new to 30k and know nothing about mechanicum (no one I see plays them). I'm thinking of adding a small mechanicum allied force to my legion list. What I'm really looking for is something that can point efficiently threaten heavy tanks like Spartans and Typhons. Any suggestions on s good, small, mechanicum unit/detachment that can do that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkaira Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Vultarax Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Two Vultarax. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Magos Reductor + Krios Venator = str 9 ap 1 ordnance 4 tank hunter weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmarred Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Am I missing something with Vultatax? 2 haywire hits a turn that must somehow stay within 12" of a cortex controller while flying for 175 doesn't seem that great. Â Krios Venator is ridiculous. How is it cheaper than a Sicaran Venator? It doesnt really address Spartans though. Â Looking through the list either type of Myrmidons with some sort of Grav jumped out as a possibility. Are they any good? Edited February 17, 2017 by Angmarred Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Am I missing something with Vultatax? 2 haywire hits a turn that must somehow stay within 12" of a cortex controller while flying for 175 doesn't seem that great. Krios Venator is ridiculous. How is it cheaper than a Sicaran Venator? It doesnt really address Spartans though. Looking through the list either type of Myrmidons with some sort of Grav jumped out as a possibility. Are they any good? Am I missing something with Vultatax? 2 haywire hits a turn that must somehow stay within 12" of a cortex controller while flying for 175 doesn't seem that great. Krios Venator is ridiculous. How is it cheaper than a Sicaran Venator? It doesnt really address Spartans though. Looking through the list either type of Myrmidons with some sort of Grav jumped out as a possibility. Are they any good? Arc Blaster is 3 shots per Vulturax Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmarred Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I know. 3 shots at bs4 is 2 hits :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge the Daemon Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) I know. 3 shots at bs4 is 2 hits :)Which is almost an instant killed Spartan with 2 of them... And you can shoot into the flare shield and do exactly the same that's point for point amazing compared to most other anti tank. Edited February 17, 2017 by Purge the Daemon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 You don't need two. Play cibernetica, use your wizard power, shoot twice and statistically pop a spartan turn 1 Â The new titan guard throw out 10 haywire shots for around the same price, but they need a ride Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmarred Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Where are the Titan guard rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leman Russ SW Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Inferno. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 You don't need two. Play cibernetica, use your wizard power, shoot twice and statistically pop a spartan turn 1  The new titan guard throw out 10 haywire shots for around the same price, but they need a ride  Pop them in a Triaros and it's a combined 265 points for those Haywire shots. You're still stuck with the 12" range on their little arc spears but at least they'll be in a transport... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017  You don't need two. Play cibernetica, use your wizard power, shoot twice and statistically pop a spartan turn 1  The new titan guard throw out 10 haywire shots for around the same price, but they need a ride  Pop them in a Triaros and it's a combined 265 points for those Haywire shots. You're still stuck with the 12" range on their little arc spears but at least they'll be in a transport...   it would be a little bit more as those guys are not a compulsory choice for admec without a titan, so you need another troop choice. Granted it would be a unit of thralls but it would still add to the cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I just wish Knights counted as Titans for the Titanguard rule. As it stands, those rules pretty much will never get used except in huge narrative battles. :P Emperors Teeth 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unerde Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Vulturax have the enhanced targeting array which give +1BS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4659877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge the Daemon Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I just wish Knights counted as Titans for the Titanguard rule. As it stands, those rules pretty much will never get used except in huge narrative battles. :P I mean 3k isn't really that large and you can slot a warhound in there. The 24 inch fearless bubble should cover most of a table anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/33/#findComment-4660066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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