bluntblade Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Perhaps some partial protection on the box dreads' joints would be an idea. They just look very exposed just now Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4581205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 @Bluntblade I totally agree I was actually considering that and will rectify this issue on the next dreads I build and possibly on these later down the road but since I've been staring at them for a solid month now they'll work as is ;) Did some major base work today and got everyone mounted a few finishing touches here and there and 4 more dreadnoughts were added to my painted models collection. Ancient Alexion Ancient Iram Ancient Prometheus Ancient T'Kyllok And my current painted model collection surrounded by all my other random crap ;) Thanks for checking out my work your C&C is always appreciated The Traitor and our_baz 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4581985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Good to see them finished, they surely make for an impressive sight. No deredeos though? Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4582374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 Not yet brother soon though I was actually planning on getting a couple whenever I get around to making a FW order. Probably won't be til a lil bit after Christmas how envious I am of the people who live within driving distance of one of there stores. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4582843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 it only took me a week of debating but I finally decided what to do for the month of December. Currently I'm at 1510/3000 for my list for the Tale of Twenty Hobbyists that may seem like I have a lot left but this list consists of some fairly expensive units and the ones that didn't start expensive were made that way with basically all the upgrades possible I'm not sure if I've mentioned this or not but this army was not intended to be a competitive tournament army by any means it's more meant to be fluffy and look cool, and will more than likely end up being sold to finance my next army. Once again I'm rambling on to some pictures. -Veteran Sergeant Kyros with the rest of his squad I decided to go with a missile launcher and heavy bolter for a little bit more flexibility. still gotta dig through the old bits box a bit and finish kiting these guys out. my goal is to visually represent a little bit of all the special veteran rules so I can pick whichever suits the scenario the best before each game. Thanks for checking out my work your C&C are always greatly appreciated. bluntblade and Bryan Blaire 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4586109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_baz Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The dreads look so good. You have achieved a very individual look on each one with all the plasticard work, well played. I'm interested in the tribal markings, I've looked through the the thread and can't find any background on them. What was your thinking for using them? As those kind of pseudo Mauri makings are associated with RG. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4586250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Good point brother baz I suppose I didn't explain those all that well my idea was that since these are the salamanders who have been found wanting in the pursuit of the Promethean creed I didn't really want to do the flames so typical of our legion. That led me to the tribal markings which to me seemed to fit since there is often mention of of the Earth Shamans and the Nomadic Tribes of Nocturne in the different books. I also kinda always assumed the branding the salamanders do on themselves would probably take some "tribal" looking form (with barbed wire bands that wrap all the way around ;) ) I've actually been thinking about ways I can use tribal markings to do squad designations/ company markings I'll be experimenting with that a bit on the vets coming up as well as the terminators I've still got to build for the Vipers. As far as the fluff goes I will explain that a bit better some time soonish when i get around to posting more I was planning on doing some for the dreads but ended up too busy painting them ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4586744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Good to see the Vipers coming together Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4587436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Thanks Bluntblade Im pretty excited about it as well I'm starting to think my list may see another expansion however as I'm lacking quite a bit in the armor department what with only my one mars pattern rhino. The question is what to get I can't decide whether to get a Spartan or a Caestus. Both are models I want to eventually have several of but the funds required for that are not likely to materialise so I'll have to settle on one. In the meantime I've been painting away on my vet tac squad. Nothing super exciting just got the whole group primed and got the green for there armor painted. in between the 3 layers of green I got started on the bases as well so it was a fairly productive day. Thanks for checking out my work your C&C is always greatly appreciated. The Traitor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4589429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 I finally got around to working on a little bit of that fluff I've been saying I'd do for months now. Unfortunately I that you've I don't think my writing skills have improved so remember though I paint like 5th grader I write like I'm in kindergarten ;) Theric Kyros a Terran born legionaire who was a member of the Legions destroyer cadres before there reunion with the Primarch. Kyros was always a warrior who was unafraid to test limits and push boundaries causing no small amount of friction with his commanding officers. However he was also incredibly lucky and what some described as a supernatural marksmen. During a particular xenocide campaign Kyros is recorded as having disobeyed no less than 33 direct orders from various commanding officers it was stated by several line captains that "the only person he answers to is the Emperor himself". Before the legion was unified with there gene sire and the position was abolished Kyros had been promoted or demoted depending on perspective to the rank of Moritat, A position it seemed as though he was born for. So it was no small disappointment for Kyros when the calling he had finally found was stricken from his legion however he was not without purpose. Kyros found a new calling among the ash Vipers many of whom shared his distaste for taking orders from anyone save Vulkan or the Emperor. Kyros proved himself to be a natural leader commanding a unit of veteran tactical legionaires. Each member of Squad Kyros is a veteran of not only countless wars and compliance actions but they were also survivors or of the Istvaan atrocities. Many of the veterans of Squad Kyros still bear the scars to prove it including Sgt Kyros himself who lost his left arm to a world eaters chain axe. The World Eater in question was then immediately rewarded with a blast from Kyros' Volkite Serpenta that caught him square in the eye lens and proceeded to burn the contents of his skull into vapor. Squad Kyros is one of several Veteran Tactical squads that make up the back bone of the Ash Vipers. Being veterans of the XVIIIth legion the squad has access to the most devastating weaponry in the Legions arsenals, Enabling them to utilize whatever weapons best suit the mission in question. However thanks to there all around flexibility the heavy weapons specialists of Squad Kyros typically go into battle armed with a combination of heavy bolters and or missile launchers. Flexibility is the calling card of Squad Kyros adapting themselves to any situation they are called to respond to from stealth operations behind enemy lines, to ship boarding, zone mortallis actions, or even protracted sieges. As is the case with all of the squads that make up the Ash Vipers Squad Kyros is made up of veterans drawn from every specialty in the XVIIIth legion there is no method or means of combat that is alien to them no weapon that is unfamiliar and there is is no length they won't go too to ensure the total annihilation of traitors they once called kin. I seem to have been bitten by the writing bug once again so perhaps I'll get some more fleshed out for the army over the next couple days. I would really love to hear your thoughts even if you think it was total crap lemme know C&C is always greatly appreciated. bluntblade and The Traitor 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4590872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 still plugging away on my vet squad Monday night's typically don't leave me with a ton of hobby time but I did manage to put in some work on the metal areas on the squad. I'm really happy with my new method of painting steel using the green and brown base under a Leadbelcher drybrushing. I think it may need a little refinement and I may need some new brushes but when it works I think it looks killer. One issue I'm having I could really use some help on I can't seem to figure out the under shading that seems so popular, where you use a light primer over a dark to simulate a light source under your base coats. I attempted this on the entire vet squad using white over black doesn't get much lighter than that rite? maybe I'm expecting to much out of the technique but I don't really notice a difference over models I've primed a solid color. If anyone has any tips or tricks in this area you would be my hero. One are I'm trying very hard to improve is my shading and light source effects but I'm really having a rough go at it. Anywho there I go rambling again. picture time I'm really quite happy with the poses on this squad I wanted to have them appear somewhat in action while still portraying a nonchalant arrogance what do you think? this fellow in particular since the charging pose he's in happened completely by accident. Next up for these fellows is a little touch up on there armor where I was a tad sloppy with the caliban green and a few spots of stray Leadbelcher. Then I'll start the washes on there armor and start doing various layers of different metals so it doesn't look like everything was cut from one big block of the same iron. I'm really quite happy with how these guys are coming along I was just thinking about the last vet tac squad I did the one for my ETL vow and it's insane how much things have changed since that squad. I think that might be one of the best parts about plogging besides the immense motivation I get from your comments is being able to actually see my models improve at least I think they are and the speed at which they're finished had improved immensely I think that last squad took me a couple months and so far I'm into this one about a week. Anywho I'll work on getting something more fun to look wry finished tonight thanks for checking out my work lemme know what you think your C&C is always greatly appreciated. bluntblade and our_baz 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4591809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 They´re really coming together, the poses are great! And... is it me or the heavy bolter marine has two knifes on the back? So badass! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4592066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 @ The Traitor thanks brother I'm glad you think so the heavy bolter legionaire Manedius does indeed have two knives. When I was building him I had the image of the heavy bolter running dry and him dropping it drawing his blades and getting messy. I think I may have to write some fluff where something similar happens :D The Traitor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4593172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBelly1863 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Goodness those dreads ended up fantastic. The tribal markings continue to astound me. Look forward to seeing more infantry! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4597688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Thanks Bluebelly your Ashen Brigade is coming along quite nicely as well. Since you mentioned Infantry--- and I thought the tribal markings were a pain on parts of the dreads :D [ The more of these guys I get the line work done on the happier I am I decided to give it a shot I think these guys will look pretty frackin awesome on the table provided I ever play a game ;) Seriously I should probably brush up (*Read "completely re-learn") on ye old rules since I'll have a respectable fully painted army by the time this project is complete. Anywho as always thanks for checking out my work your C&C is always greatly appreciated. Vairocanum, Anamnesis, Raztalin and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4597760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Awesome. With your skill in freehanding, are you sure, you don't want to paint a Space Shark army? I thought they were the ones with that style of armour art. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4597824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Well, I'm sure that when you finish your army you'll surely have an impressive force to play with, the veterans surely are looking good! Are you planning to paint their eyes in bright orange? I think that would look very cool actually, and even better if you try a OSL effect, though not too much. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4597874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 @ Quixus thanks brother your too kind and potentially a mind reader :) the paint job on these fellas was actually inspired by all the awesome Carcharodons I've seen popping up lately malchy's in particular. And after the Vipers are finished I've been toying around with ideas for a Carcharodons ZM force since I've always pictured them as masters of ship boarding and close combat in other words breachers and dreads my kinda army :D @ The Traitor thanks man I'm glad you think they're turning out as well as I do. And I am indeed planning on doing my usual fiery orange for the eye lenses with just a touch of osl like you said. That's actually why I painted the warpaint before the eyes so the glow would be cast over the top of it like it would irl. Now I just need Christmas to hurry up and get here so I can get my hands on some mk III and start copying you're awesome conversions ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4598532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBelly1863 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) Isn't it funny how that works?? I also have yet to play a game of 30k... I've used my sallies for a game or two of 40k, but nothing in the setting for which they were intended! whoops! I hope you get those boys on the tabletop once theyre done though, for they look fantastic! Tribal markings really sets your guys apart from the rest of the Salamanders on the forum, including my own. Keep it up! For Vulkan! Edit: me spell more better Edited December 20, 2016 by BlueBelly1863 Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4598572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 @Bluebelly I'm glad its not just me ;) I think in the 13 years I've been into the hobby I can probably count the number of actual games I've played on both hands that was mainly because when I was younger I could never talk any of my friends into reading the rules and the small town I lived in didn't have a very big gaming community. But I think once this army's finished I aim to change that since there is quite a large wargaming community here in Portland. I'm also really happy to hear so many positive responses to the tribal markings I wasn't sure it was gonna work for the sallies quite like it has but now I'm definitely glad I went this route especially since like you said it definitely sets them apart from other XVIIIth legion forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4598602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 That support weapon missile launcher with devastator launching missile bit is quite wonderful idea. Now i need to get my fingers in both kits. Pyroclast91 and Bryan Blaire 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4598715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Brutal Salamanders are cool Salamanders. I'm starting to picture these chaps as ancestors to the Black Dragons. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4599106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Thanks Bluntblade I've always been a huge fan of the Black dragons. And in my mind they're absolutely founded from corrupted salamanders gene seed. Each of the other legions who suffered a visible genetic deviation from the norm ended up with later "failed foundings". For instance the Raven Guards raptors, And the Space Wolves Wolf Brothers. And with Vulkans legion being badly depleted after Istvaan it makes perfect sense to me that if Corax approached him and was like "hey bro I can help you churn out a fresh generation of legionaires way faster than normal" Vulkan would probably be like "yea I'm down" bam accidental mutant marines with bone blades in there arms. Of course this probably wouldn't help the salamanders somewhat questionable image with the newly founded inquisition so they would probably destroy all records of the Black dragons creation. But Vulkan being the giant hammer wielding fire walking unkillable teddy bear he is probably wouldn't be able to kill off his mutant sons so he'd ship them off to the edge of the galaxy to be angry and kill traitors and aliens. So with that in mind it's possible and now upon further consideration someone in this army will probably end up with forearm blades not bone but built onto armour most likely :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4599285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I want to do a Black Dragons story sometime, when I learn more about their Chapter ethos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4599299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 @Bluntbladee I've pondered it myself on several occasions they're definitely a chapter that's on my life long hobby to do list but like you said I'll have to wait til they get a little more cannon background before I dive into that project. I managed to once again stay up far later than I should have working on my plastic dudesmen. But I finished the line work on the squad and just couldn't help myself I had to start laying down my first layer of red. Starting with everyone's eyes then did sgt kyros' serpenta , and started on everyone's krak grenades. Thanks for checking out my work I'd love to hear your thoughts your C&C is always greatly appreciated our_baz, Raztalin and The Traitor 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/11/#findComment-4599971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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