The Traitor Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) While I like the colour scheme I think that it is lacking a bit of volume, maybe as you're already going through so much to make them look good you could edge highlight them in a very bright green? Or even easier wash them with a very diluted nuln oil? (Of course the best would be to do both, but that would probably be too time consuming). I've just painted green primaris and those are the two techniques that worked best for me after applying the caliban green and the warpstone glow ;). But seriously, they're looking good, maybe it is just me being obsessive with contrast between lights and shadows on a model... Edited July 29, 2017 by The Traitor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4837405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 @The Traitor thanks brother it's funny as I read your comment I was actually taking a break from doing exactly like to the word what you suggested. It is definitely a lot more work this way but I think it definitely pays off in the end. But because of how tedious it is doing it this way I've also come to the conclusion I need to increase my batch size at least when I'm doing the base layers. After getting the highlighting done I moved on to painting my metal areas. I start all my gold by painting it brown and this is a convenient time to paint any leather items like pouches holsters and armor seals.And since I forgot to get pics of the metal in its different stages I'll just explain. After the brown layer I do a very thin layer of screaming bell followed by a very thin sepia wash. Then a layer of Fulgurite copper with another thin sepia wash. After that the gold areas get a final layer of Sycorax Bronze followed by you guessed it another thinned sepia wash. Like I said I kinda got ahead of myself and forgot to get pictures but I'll get some up soon but I'm not sure how much I'll be working on my models the next week or so since I'll be out of town and might not have a ton of free time in which I can set up my modeling gear. Thanks for checking out my work I love hearing what you think your C&C is always greatly appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4840975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Some very clean highlighting, something I can never hope to accomplish . All of them are seriously looking great, and you can see how far you've improved since the start of your thread! Keep up the awesome work! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4841150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Oh yeah, that's so much better! Really dig those extreme highlights, would have done something of the like for my dark angels if it wasn't because, well... Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4842259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Vairocanum thanks brother I'm pretty happy with them so far and its definitely taken a lot of practice and patience to get where I am and I still have a very very long way to go. @The Traitor I'm glad you approve brother I think on personal models its totally worth the extra effort and I think it's paying off. So I'm finally back from vacation and getting back into the swing of things. GW just won't give me a break apparently it seems every week they release something new I need to buy that new Morty looks amazing and I'm gonna need 1 but I've decided to make myself get my loyalists painted before I buy any more traitors and vice versa that way I clear out my current to do lists before adding more. In the interest of the new plan I spent last nite base coating the remaining Salamanders from the box set. After the stegadon scale I start mixing in some green I think the best part of sticking with your favorite army over the years is getting to see them evolve and man am I happy to be a Salamanders player I've yet to play a game in the new 8th ed but I've heard the new rules have been very kind to the sons of Nocturne. I'm hoping some time next month to have enough of both sides painted to test these rules myself. The other thing I've happily watched evolve is my paint scheme and technique it seems with every group I paint I find more things to add or tweek ever so slightly for instance I've been playing around with mixing in pearlescent paint into the green that I mixed up for my armor and I'm very pleased with the results so far I may add a bit more as the effect isn't quite as noticeable as I'd like. I decided because of the process going into each model that it made more sense to do the entire lot as a batch so I'm getting the rest of the salamanders up to the same point as there brothers before taking them further. But hopefully that will be soon thanks for checking out my work I love hearing your input C&C is always greatly appreciated. Vairocanum and The Traitor 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4854396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Hmmm... Curious to see that you start from such a blueish tone, it doesn't looks like it when you see the final product. Have you tried doing a model starting directly with Caliban Green to see if it is really that noticeable? Sometimes it happens that I find out that I can completely suppress a step from some painting recipe without it changing much at the end, I just recently stopped using Ushabti Bone in my bone formula at all! And yes, Salamanders are one of the best chapters in 8th, as are the Raven Guard, so you got lucky this time!:P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4854504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Hope you had a good vacation, nice to see you back at painting! Looking forward to seeing more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4856167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 @ The Traitor thanks man I always appreciate your input and to answer your question yes I did do a couple test models with my new blue to green recipe. Its hard to see in the pictures I but I think in person it does have a noticeable effect especially in shadowed areas it helps give the green a lot more depth in my opinion. But I do totally understands what you mean and if these weren't for my personal army I'd opt for the faster option but since I want this to be my army that I take places I really wan't it to be my best work. In other words no short cuts :) so far I think it's paying off and I think it will absolutely be worth it in the end. @ Vairocanum thanks brother I did indeed I had a blast camping and teaching my girls how to shoot it was definitely a nice break from the city :) That being said I think I was starting to have plastic crack withdrawals so it is good to be back in my dark corner where us nerds belong. I had big plans for yesterday hobby wise but the kids are at grandma's and my better half had the day off as well so plans were re arranged a but but i still got a great deal accomplished on the Salamanders. It's definitely a longer process the way I'm doing these fella but I'm very pleased with the results and I think this army is gonna look great on the table. Now that the basic green has been laid down for the armor I can start highlighting and shading. Getting closer and closer to having these guys finished thanks for checking out my work I love hearing your input C&C are always greatly appreciated. Vairocanum, The Traitor and our_baz 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4856859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Yea corner spaces away from everything do wonders for productivity . Glad your camping trip was great, I've actually got a small weekend camping trip myself at the end of the month (fingers crossed the weather stays clear). Everything is looking good, most excited to see Dek'Rath completed! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4858824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Thanks Vairocanum I hope you have a good time on your trip as well and I'm excited to get this squad finished and get on to the Iron Hands. And of course the Death Guard but I decided I really need to get the contents of the starter box finished before I add more to either force because at the staggering rate GW is releasing things I'll end up buried in half finished projects (more so anyways) if I don't figure out some sort of way to control myself. Unfortunately I've been pretty pressed for time here lately but I've gotten the armor painted green on the entire salamanders part of this first wave of primaris. And yes I paint while watching GOT which was a terrible idea with the most recent episode if you watched it you'll understand lol. That was a lot of highlighting on all that green armor but I think it was well worth it I've also started blocking out the areas that will be metal. I need to run by the craft store today to get some silver rub n buff as i want to try it on my bolters and blades etc but i also plan to use it on my iron hands i have what i think could be an interesting way of painting the Iron tenth in a way of blending the old and new so we'll see how that goes. Hopefully I'll have more time in the coming weeks to get more accomplished but we'll see how that ends up thanks for checking out my work I'd love to hear what you think your C&C is always greatly appreciated. The Traitor and our_baz 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4865380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I've said it before but I'll say it again: that green is fantastic. You've really pushed yourself with this primaris and it has given results, those edge highlights look great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4865491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Nice progress, hope you can power through all of them soon to start on the Iron Hands and Death Guard! Looking forward to seeing the effects of the rub n buff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4865506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Fear not brothers I've been busy painting I didn't disappear into the cicatrix maledictum or anything. RL has just been making sure my spare time is very limited but I the time I have had I've been trying to get the first batch of salamanders knocked out and I'm getting pretty close I think. Here's some pics The way I split up the primaris I have I ended up with 6 intercessors and 2 lieutenants so I've decided that each lieutenant will be designated to a combat squad indicated by the markings on the right knee pads of there armor. My goal here is to give a little fluffy diversity and to be able to eventually have each lieutenant leading a full 10 men and each having a second lieutenant. Ive started to do the flames on the armor now as well I'd completely forgotten how tedious that is. But I'm happy with the results so far. Hopefully ill have more time over the next couple weeks so I can get these guys knocked out and on to the next ones. Thanks for checking out my work I'd love to hear your thoughts C&C is always greatly appreciated. our_baz, spraehbuer, betrayer41 and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4873609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Looking great, those flames are truly awesome! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4873727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_baz Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I've missed following this. I'm not a massive fan of the new primaris marines, however your Sallie paint scheme is really winning me over. Your flames are great as always, the paint job on the armour is in my opinion your best yet. With regards to your Lieutenants, the idea of differentiating them is great, I personally would move away from "Codex" markings (i.e. red). For me I would use scales, more flames, hammers or anvils. Or perhaps just black or gold? Keep you the great work. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4874178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Oh my, those Salamanders are looking phenomenal, seeing you put so much work into every single marine is very inspiring! The flames look beautiful, hope you have more time to paint in the coming weeks! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4874211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Been a super busy couple of weeks but I've still been plugging away on the Salamanders. Thank you all for your continued support it truly is the best thing about this site. I know for absolute certain I wouldn't be anywhere near the skill level I'm at without the things I've learned here both from others threads and from all of your comments on my work so again my brothers and sisters thank you. On to the business. I'm down to the tedious detail portion of the task picking out details and highlighting metal things. I've been debating with myself as to how I'm going to do the shoulder pads and i think I'm going to suck it up and order some emblems from shapeways because if I sculpt them it'll be another 6 months before these guys are done. I had to take a break from the green for a while so I started the Iron Hands. I wasn't able to get rub n buff locally so ill have to try that plan another time but my current plan is to do something similar to my heresy IH but with a bit more actual black. But we'll get back to that. After that short break I decided the ancient should be the first fully painted. Thanks for checking out my work I really appreciate all your input hopefully I can get back into the habit of daily updates soon if life will allow me that much hobby time. The Traitor, our_baz and Vairocanum 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4884405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Wow, you've really been busy, I feel you there brother! This army is going to look so damn amazing when finished, the ancient is a perfect example of how well your new colour scheme works. However, if I'm allowed to suggest something, I would add another colour to the 18"-not-really-heavy-bolter thing that the Inceptors have, red or green, because I think the shields won't look too good if left metallic... Maybe simply paint them black as the weapon casings? Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4884423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Your Salamanders look great! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4884492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Awesome update! Salamanders look fantastic as usual, Iron Hands are looking good so far as well. Hoping to see some some of your previously made dreadnoughts painted in this paint scheme later on! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4884692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 FANTASTIC! Your Salamanders look great and I cannot get enough of the flames. The leader (I think) with the pistol, sword, and metal mohawk is the boss! Love how he's come together. Interested to see how the Iron Hands turn out. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4885037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 @The Traitor thanks brother you are too kind as always and have no fear those mag shields won't be left plain I may actually tackle them tonight time permitting. @Bjorn Firewalker thanks I'm glad you like them I think I'm starting to get the look I've been after. @Vairocanum thanks brother hopefully I can get myself back into doing them more regularly. As for the dreads the ones I've already finished probably won't see a repaint but with my dreadnought obsession you can count on seeing several big green stompy robots on this thread as soon as my hobby fund will allow lol. @ Hushrong thank you I'm glad you like what I did with the LT/ Captain for just being very small changes I think they've come out pretty well. And as for the iron hands they'll be next up on the painting block very soon. Thanks for all the comments guys they really help keep the hobby fires burning. So since the first batch of salamanders are nearing the home stretch I figured its time to throw some bases together. I considered doing something new from the bases I did for my Ash Vipers but since eventually I want my entire collection displayed on the same table uniformity won the debate. I started the same as always with glued down sheets of cork with tooth picks, paper clips, random bits including the odd helmet or hand, sand, small rocks, broken cork chunks, and random bits styrene all glued to the base on my next batch ill take more wip pictures so you can see my process. But basically after that mish mash is all glued together I spray paint it black then add liberal coats of Astrogranite (one of my all time favorite paints) followed by and this is a new step Sturland Battlemire which I'm still getting used to using but I think its pretty nice as well. Several of the bases like the one for my ancient have pipes on them and I'm using Nurgles Rot to add a sewagey effect and it works quite nicely. I still need to do some dry brushing a wash or two and get all the metal bits but it's all pretty quick easy work on the bases so that shouldn't take long. While I was waiting for the battlemire to dry I started working on the power swords. This is just the first layer of red to be followed by at least 2 more and then a super fine white highlight. Thanks for checking out my work I love hearing what you think your C&C is always greatly appreciated. Grotsmasha, our_baz, The Traitor and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4890316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 The LT and the Ancient look great! Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4890366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Lava swords, cool! Also the bases look a bit plain right now, but you've already said you'll add some washes and dry brush, so it should be better then. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4890378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Bases look awesome and they will really show off your primaris. The detail work is still superb and I love the banner. It looks great! I do not know how Ii glanced over it before. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322999-pyroclast91s-forge-salamanders-primaris-and-death-guard/page/16/#findComment-4890468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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