Pyroclast91's Forge = Salamanders Primaris and Death Guard

[Pyroclast91]

So my original goal for the weekend was to get the seekers base coated. That definitely did not happen :( however my revised goal of having them primed did and I did manage to get a base coat on Ancient Iram the Leviathan.

 

 

for the scheme I'm doing for the ash Vipers I'm using Castellan Green for a couple reasons 1. I wanted to go more muted than the typical Caliban Green base. 2. I have spray paint that matches. 3. I think it will work well as a base for any drake hides as well as the armour. and 4. As a force the Ash Vipers commonly use stealth and natural earthy colors aid in this. I've got a bowl full of old poorly painted push fit marines soaking in a bowl of alcohol at home tonight I'm gonna use a couple as test models to see how the different washes I have react with this color then we'll go from there.

 

 

Ancient Iram is gonna get himself some fluff soon but as I've mentioned before I'm much better with blade and brush than I am with pen and paper.

 

 

This is "Carver" Sgt Serens Right hand his real name is Tor'gal Pulakanos but is known as Carver because of his obsession with edged weapons. When Squad Seren is tasked with the retrieval of information before eliminating a target it typically falls to Carver to extract it from the less than cooperative marks.

 

 

This is "Kill-Shot" or Käl Tobbe to become a legion seeker you have to have marksmanship skills beyond even those of the other superhuman legionaires. But Tobbe was a class apart from even them the every legionaire who ever served with him would swear he'd never missed a target no matter the distance no matter the conditions when Käl pulled the trigger bolt would find a body. This skill and reputation as a marksmen earned Käl the nickname Kill-Shot.

 

 

Sgt Dominic Seren is a Terran born legionaire who served with distinction throughout the great crusade. Having spent a decade seconded to the Vylka Fenryka Seren proved himself an almost peerless hunter even amongst the wolves. Leading Kill Teams into the heart of hundreds of enemy occupied warzones to eliminate high value targets Seren acquired a reputation as a cold and ruthless albeit extremely efficient killer. However after returning to his legion his aggressive nature and apparent lack of empathy led to many disagreements between Seren and his commanders. One such disagreement led too fight between Seren and his then Captain who Seren almost killed. Afterwards Dominic Seren was permanently transferred to the Ash Vipers. On Istvaan V Sgt Seren was able to not only survive but thanks to his particular skills was able to strike back at the traitors. Seren would conceal himself often using the corpses of the fallen on more than one occasion piling the dead to build macabre hunting blinds that also served as barricades from which he ambushed the traitors attempting to hunt survivors. After his quarry was dead he would carefully remove there armour and cut out his enemy's progenoid glands something he'd seen the Emperors Children doing to his fallen brothers and a favor he decided to return in kind. However unlike the wayward sons of Fulgrim Seren would replace the progenoid glands with primed bolter rounds rigged to krak grenades, then carefully replace the fallen legionaires armour and leave them. This tactic led to the death of several and severe injury of many traitor apothecaries. Seren managed to rescue dozens of legionaires from all three loyal legions and helped most of them escape however refusing to leave Istvaan with any of the refugees for almost a year every time he was asked his answer was the same "My hunt isn't over". By the time Seren finally decided to leave Istvaan V himself he had earned an impressive reputation amongst the traitor forces hunting him who referred to him only as the "Ghost".

 

I'd love to hear any C&C you may have thanks for checking out my work.

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[Pyroclast91]

Ancient Iram got some paint love tonight maybe he'll get some fluff tomorrow.

 

 

 

the color is kinda a WIP as I didn't do a test model since the models I was stripping to use as test models seem to have been painted with liquid adamantium. I've tried simple green, alcohol, paint thinner, industrial solvent that has eaten models before. nothing on most of them and I can barely get to the primer on the others. I'll probably just prime over the garbage since I just plan to use them for test models anyways. Anywho where was I? Oh yeah so far I'm pretty happy with the color I think it's just the rite amount of green too say salamanders but the red and dark wash take it in the opposite direction of the cartoon green.Now I just need to get rid of all the lines from my sloppy washing do some highlights and do the freehand I'm planning and the armour will be complete. Sounds easy enough on paper ;) I'd love to hear your thoughts thanks for checking out my work.

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[bluntblade]

I like the dark green. Was never a huge fan of the light green lots of people favour when it comes to Sallies

[Lord Commander Eidolon]

@Lord Commander Eidolon thanks very much brother you're too kind that's very high praise coming from you yours are some of the only emperors children that have ever even tempted me to the IIIrd. I'm glad you like what I've done with the old boys. here's some pics I hope they help.

 

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the extended leg armour also helps for to hide the any seams. I hope these helped if not let me know and I can take more.

 High Praise indeed; why thank you!

 

Thank's so much for pics, very helpful, I will have to try it out! I shall have to trawl fleabay and see what I can get, as I quite fancy a box dread (I want at least one of each type!!) If I can manage to get one in the hobby tale, I'll let you name it!!

 

Cracking work on the seekers - I shall have to get cracking on mine, so I'll rip off a few of these ideas! Kill Team Tarvitz, incoming!!

[Pyroclast91]

@Bluntblade thanks brother I'm glad you like it so far I'm planning on making this force something of a depiction of the native warriors of Nocturne so I kinda want them to have something of a feral tribal barely constrained animals feel to them that bright happy green just won't work for.

 

@Lord Commander Eidolon no problem at all brother I'm happy I could help. I'm definitely a hardcore Dread Head I love em like a lot so far all I'm missing is a Deredeo lol. I would be honored to name an ancient for you and since you mention it I'm actually having a hell of a time coming up with names for either of the shield brothers. So far they're just choom and flamestorm lol. So if you have any suggestions is love to hear them :)

[Lord Commander Eidolon]

Hmm, had a little ponder.

 

Ancient T'Kyllok for your choom meister guy! and maybe Ancient Promethius for the flame storm guy! I am not massively up on Salamanders culture, but I figured fiery references and Star Trek Vulcan names would be cool!

 

I am sorely tempted to go out and treat myself to a box dread and hack it up, but must remain focused! Ancient Kurama demands some attention today!!

[Pyroclast91]

Haha those are prefect brother Ancient T'kyllok and Ancient Promethius both fit in perfectly with other names I've used . I Would definitely recommend it when time allows. I may end up grabbing another one...or two? next time I stop by the game shop I'm not sure what it is about dreadnoughts but they're damn addictive :) I just wish the plastic contemptor wasn't so much more than the ven and ironclad kits I could really use a few more of em for some reason I just can't justify $60 when the other dreads are $45.

[Pyroclast91]

Been a crazy week so I haven't really taken the time to post much I haven't been idle however I've been plugging away on the seekers and Leviathan I'm painting for the TOTH. I'm really liking the way the paint on my armour is coming out on the seekers at first I was worried it was too dark but I think when I do the highlights it'll counter it.

 

 

 

 

 

I also came to the realization that I hadn't even thought about how I'm going to base these fellows so I got to pondering. I decided since I'm going to paint Vulkan to go with this army I'd try to do something similar to his base which consists mainly of concrete old iron and corpses all things I can handle modeling wise.

 

 

in between the many various layers of washes and glazes ive also been doing a little work on my favorite Raven.

 

 

 

still definitely a lot of work to do on all fronts but that's the way I like it. Any C&C is always greatly appreciated

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[Pyroclast91]

So I'm sure I'm not the only person who's been drooling over the prospero box contemplating new lists and conversions and all that beautiful beautiful MK III !!!!!! I'm not even the slightest bit disappointed I didn't get another calth box I am planning on getting at least 4 of the Prospero box plus splitting at least one with a friend. I see this being a very painful holiday season for my wallet but since MK III has always been my favorite armor mark, my oldest daughter wants to play sisters, and my youngest wants to play wolves I have more than enough excuses to throw an excessive amount of money at GW. ANYWHO I did manage to get quite a bit of work done on my seekers and a little bit of work done on Ancient Iram.

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully I'll get the seekers done tomorrow but there is a better than likely chance that's me being overly ambitious.

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[bluntblade]

So is this basically a Shattered Legion force, or are those guys actually in (to paraphrase Father Ted) very, very dark green?

Edited October 16, 2016 by bluntblade

[our_baz]

Is that a yellow glaze over the scales on the dread?

[Pyroclast91]

@ bluntblade Not at the moment they aren't going too be, currently the list I'm working on for the Tale of Twenty Hobbyists is %100 salamanders. For the time being... That very well may end up changing down the road it's pretty difficult for me to stay away from The shattered legions I've always like to mix and match my marines.

 

@our baz that's actually a light drybrushing of averland sunset followed by a super light drybrushing of black then a wash of agrax all on top of the same castellan green base as everything else. I hope that helps it's been very much an experiment but I think it's coming out so far :)

Edited October 16, 2016 by Pyroclast91

[Pyroclast91]

It turned out to be a fairly productive weekend for the seeker squad seeing them almost completely assembled. With the exception of Sgt Seren's bolter which I need to attach a chain too since deciding he needed a second ccw. For the trim on the armour and other various embellishments I wanted to use similar colors to my other salamanders but I didn't want then to pop quite as much so I went with Sycorax Bronze over a Screaming Bell base, I'll probably highlight this with either a straight silver paint or use a Sycorax mix.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've also been toying around with how I do my drake hides something as a salamanders player I'm always trying to perfect. But I think I may have stumbled upon an effective method I'm really quite pleased with it and eventually I'll probably go back and redo a lot of my older drake hides. (I'm looking at you Nomus Rhy'tan) so now all that's really left on these fellas is the fun stuff detailing on weapons, glowing effects on certain lenses and on the single combi plasma, considering doing some more freehanding, adding heat staining to all melta and flamer barrels, then transfers, finish details on bases, do pre base weathering, attach to bases, final weathering, and finish it all of with my favorite heavy duty matte finish clear coat. Speaking of the clear coat I keep reading about other people who use multiple clear coats during different stages of painting alternating between gloss and matte why is that? I had assumed the clear coat was just to protect your finished paint job am I missing something? Anywho now that I've listed everything left to do on the seekers it seems a little more daunting than it really is but I definitely have no shortage of work to do. I'd love to hear any C&C you might have thanks for checking out my work.

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[our_baz]

What's your new method for the scales? I use straken green as a base, athonian camo shade wash, then dry brush straken followed by nurgling green.

[Pyroclast91]

The new recipe is

Scales-

-Basecoat Castellan green

-Wash Biel-Tan Green

-Drybrush Averland Sunset

-Super Light Drybrush Any Black

-Wash Carroburg Crimson

Leathery Bits

-Basecoat Castellan Green

-Thinned down layer Flayed One Flesh

-Thinned down layer Elysian Green

-Wash upper areas with Biel-Tan

-Highlight lower areas with 3:1 mix of Flayed One Flesh : Elysian Green

-Final Light Highlight of Flayed One Flesh

 

I hope that helps I'm pretty happy with it I'm sure it's something that will continue to evolve as I don't plan on switching legions any time soon :)

[Lord Commander Eidolon]

Great work on those Seekers mate, they look sufficiently like true war dogs! I shall have to raise my game and make my EC Seekers uberblingy!!

 

Love the work with the scales; I'd be sorely tempted to do some AL just to use them! I do however like your darker shade of green on them, I'm not a fan of the FW bright green, I just see it as not very drake/reptilian like!

 

Now, haven't you got some dreadnoughts to do.....

[Pyroclast91]

Thanks LCE that's exactly what I was going for with these guys. I'm glad you like the scales too that's exactly the problem I have with FW's scheme though I like the color they made the leathery bits so I tried to emulate that the actual scales seemed as you said far too bright. So I spent some time googling different lizards and alligators and crocodiles.

 

 

This is one of the pictures i used as kind of a guide. I think I've still got a little refining to do but I think I'm headed in the rite direction. Once the seekers are finished which I'm rapidly approaching it'll be ancient Iram on the painting block and then.....

Next month shall be DREADVEMBER!!!!! That's what I'm calling it anyways ;) I'm hoping to have some extra time after finishing Iram to finish up the shield brothers Ancients T'kyllok and Prometheus including some fluff I've been working on. But two dreads no matter how glorious wouldn't be worth renaming an entire month. I've also got a contemptor with conversion beamer and plasma cannon. And then since my Dreadnought addiction is never satisfied I'm also going to pick up a plastic ironclad. And if I can find someone who wants to get rid of them I also need two plastic contemptors but I may have to bite the bullet and just get them from gw but $65 is a tad steep IMO. in a perfect world our one where I was independently wealthy I'd also pick up a couple deredeos and leviathans but that's me dreaming and they'll have to wait but my goal is to have a talon of every type of dread before I call this army truly finished.

 

 

 

 

I started hitting the bases with my usual routine of grey followed by a wash followed by a lighter grey then repeat. My goal was for the bases to look like a scenery piece when they're sat next to each other and I also wanted them to look somewhat similar to vulkans base since I'll be painting him with this army and I'm planning a display board for the army that will match as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm very happy with this squad so far I think they might be my best work to date I would certainly say they have the most character and I think this was a good squad to start this army with to get me into the feel of the force. Now I just have to figure out what I'm going to change with the influx of MKIII plate and Tartaros TDA. I really can't explain how excited I am for Prospero it has two off my favorite kinds of armour. And if that weren't enough its got plastic sisters which both my daughter's want which means I'm gonna be forced to buy several boxes so they can each have a respectable force ;) You Know... For the kids :D Anywho id love to hear any C&C you might have thanks for checking out my work.

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[Pyroclast91]

Seeker Squad Seren is officially finished at least until I notice something on them that bothers me or I learn how to do something better. Because there's no such thing as finished ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still need to hit the bases with black paint and give them a good clear coat but these guys are pretty well finished in my book and I'm pretty damn happy with them I'd love to hear any C&C you might have if there's something I can improve I'd love to hear it since I've got a whole army to paint ;)

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[Black Cohort]

I love what you have done recently, 4 boxes of BoP seems like a lot.  The seeker squad is awesome.

[bluntblade]

Now that's what I'm talking about

[Pyroclast91]

@ Black Cohort. Thank you brother always nice too hear stay tuned I've got much more to come ;) and it is a lot but I have plans for decently sizeable traitor force after the Ash Vipers as well as both of my daughter's wanting to start there own legions which how could I not support that? so really it'll be two boxes for me and one for each of them with a little trading here and there :)

 

@Bluntblade I'm glad you approve as well brother positive feedback is always one of the best motivators to keep on painting :)

 

here's a pic of everything I've painted since joining the B&C random but I like to update things

 

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[bluntblade]

Plenty of attitude, which I feel is often missing with Salamanders.

[Pyroclast91]

Thanks Bluntblade That's what I'm trying to do and it's proven more than a little bit difficult especially with the way the salamanders are so commonly portrayed. I really wanted to portray that even the most humanitarian legions once pushed too far can snap not to the extent of going renegade but to the point where they are far more willing to do whatever dark deeds are necessary to destroy the traitors and I've been thinking a lot about the Ash Vipers story and I think it's lacking some proper bad guys. The kind so evil the Ash Vipers less than tasteful way of war is deemed fitting. So that being said look forward to seeing some traitors here soon I've spent too much time going through threads like those belonging to Augustus B'raas, Krautscientist, Aeternas, Atia, Guiltysparc, LordComanderEidolon,and DuskRaider just to name a few and now I hear the dark gods beckoning

[our_baz]

Loving the work as always. I'm a little confused tho, the seekers you have just completed. Are they XVIIIth or XIXth? I flicked through the last couple of pages and couldn't find any info. If XVIIIth why did you go with the black scheme?

[Pyroclast91]

They are indeed members of the XVIIIth it's hard to get the color to show up in pics the way it really appears. But the seekers armour was painted in the same fashion as ancient Iram it's just hard to tell because I made them so dark and because I've yet to get around to making a proper board to take pictures of my finished work on.

 

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I tried to make the green darker and less metallic than the other Salamanders I've painted in natural light it appears very much like a green Olive that's been rolled in blood I am going to try to work on my highlighting I think that will help make it more apparent that they are green.