General Discussion Secundus

[MikhalLeNoir]

Not sanction a legion. I meant for the dirty jobs we have also the dune serpents

[Skalpynock]

Not sanction a legion. I meant for the dirty jobs we have also the dune serpents

Don't know if you remember, but in BotL the Xenocides are carried out by the Void Eagles, Berserkers, Serpents and Predators. The four horsemen.

[bluntblade]

Between the Berserkers, Void Eagles, Dune Serpents, Grave Stalkers, Crimson Lions and previously the Wolves, I'd say the Emperor was well covered for the doing of dirty jobs.

[Skalpynock]

Between the Berserkers, Void Eagles, Dune Serpents, Grave Stalkers, Crimson Lions and previously the Wolves, I'd say the Emperor was well covered for the doing of dirty jobs.

I'd say "primarchs were a mistake", but then we'd have the Steel Guard and Storm Riders who weren't bad at it either.

[Kelborn]

Just for your info: I'll write down the key facts of the Preds (incl. cultural influences, themes, way of waging war, everything I'm intending)

 

Afterwards, I / we can have a look on what might has to change.

 

After finishing the Wolves part in Inferno, I realized that there are some similarities but I remembered that I wanted to go a more White Scars/Night Lord-ish way.

 

Let's see what will happen though.

[MikhalLeNoir]

 

Not sanction a legion. I meant for the dirty jobs we have also the dune serpents

 

Don't know if you remember, but in BotL the Xenocides are carried out by the Void Eagles, Berserkers, Serpents and Predators. The four horsemen.

 

So we have the dauntless für (?) and the horsemen?

 

I declare the creation oft the glorios bunch/ shining force. Wardens of Light and Warbringers are a give AS they know how to bling. Who else? Fire keepers because they make light with their flamers and maybe the lightning bearers cuz holding a lightning let's you automatically bling.^^

[Kelborn]

With the dauntless few, the horsemen and the shining ones...the rest will be declared: the usual suspects

 

:P

[simison]

The revised system is 1-2-2 with 4 free slots. So, all I did was take the one required slot and move it to a freebie. 

[MikhalLeNoir]

The revised system is 1-2-2 with 4 free slots. So, all I did was take the one required slot and move it to a freebie.

 

 

Okay

[simison]

Anyone else under the impression that we should keep our pitches to new blood a little simpler? I'm under the distinct impression we scared off the last one with how much stuff he could do.

[Kelborn]

You mean a specific task for newbies?

 

Well, we just offered him the possibilities. If there is nothing he can identify with, it's not our fault. :)

 

Besides, maybe his forum time is limited and he comes up again. He liked our suggestions, so I assume that he's willing.

[bluntblade]

Anyone else under the impression that we should keep our pitches to new blood a little simpler? I'm under the distinct impression we scared off the last one with how much stuff he could do.

Yeah, I'm feeling that.

 

Might be an idea to flick him a message

Edited March 7, 2017 by bluntblade

[bluntblade]

Saw a trailer for Horizon: Zero Dawn. My second thought after "huh, Lance Reddick" was "how was this not used as the homeworld for someone's Lost Priamrch?"

[MikhalLeNoir]

Saw a trailer for Horizon: Zero Dawn. My second thought after "huh, Lance Reddick" was "how was this not used as the homeworld for someone's Lost Priamrch?"

That shows how absolutly fresh the scenario is which guerilla games developed. But as the wardens homeworld is not that defined besides the cultural influences and the landscape, with a little help, we can tweak it to match horizon^^

[Kelborn]

That's the one with the beautiful landscape and the mechasaurs, right?

 

Could fit Nomus as the high society of his homeworld is living in hovering cities, while the poor guys live down under. :)

[bluntblade]

 

Saw a trailer for Horizon: Zero Dawn. My second thought after "huh, Lance Reddick" was "how was this not used as the homeworld for someone's Lost Priamrch?"

That shows how absolutly fresh the scenario is which guerilla games developed. But as the wardens homeworld is not that defined besides the cultural influences and the landscape, with a little help, we can tweak it to match horizon^^

I'm not saying we should. It just amused me, and rather made me wish I was still in a position to get a console.

 

We ought to give the Steel Legion or Eagle Warriors a Gargant-heavy Exemplary Battle, thinking of that Ferrus one with the AT-ATesque walkers. I hereby call dibs, and wish FW books were easy to get as PFDs.

Edited March 9, 2017 by bluntblade

[Kelborn]

Blunt, check out our Facebook group. There might be a link which could potentially help you. ;)

[RikuEru]

*has recently moved and, due to that, sorted his grey mountain of shame*

 

*realized he had more than a hundred marines, a few vehicles, some TWC, Leman Russ himself and an alternative model Russ still to build and paint for his Space Wolves*

 

*pre-ordered GSIII and Gulliman and Co to convert a third Leman Russ*

 

*prepared a new, organized, well-lighted workplace to start hobbying again on Saturday...*

 

Well, yeah there are some proto-legions or Legio Auxilia that have yet to be done, but the 18 big guys have finally been completed.

Man, that feels good.

Oh, LOOK! A new (old) project I can do... *walks off to go bits diving*

[Kelborn]

Need a hand or three thousands little leprechauns? ^^

[Talonair]

So, I had a thought today. Do any traitor legions have a tainted dreadnought similar to the Mhara Ghal?

[Nomus Sardauk]

So, I had a thought today. Do any traitor legions have a tainted dreadnought similar to the Mhara Ghal?

Probably the Eagle Warriors, not only are they are First Heretics but they've also dabbled with mechanical-daemonic hybrid stuff before with the Corpa Ferro (apologies if I misspelled that) so a daemonought like the Mhara Gal would probably be no problem.

[Raktra]

I'm making some Wendigo dreadnoughts soon, if that counts.

[Sigismund229]

I realise it's not BotL related but what do you fellas think of the fluff for the primarch of the Black Guard?

 

Dievas Niekas

 

I learned to love the dark and the oblivion it brought. The light brought pain and suffering. When I saw the suns of other worlds I learned how fake that light was. I have since learned what sunlight looks and feels like. I have yet to discover what joy feels like"

-Dievas Niekas, primarch of the II^nd legion, the Black Guard

 

Some primarchs landed on civilized worlds, such as Macragge and Olympia, others feral worlds, such as Fenris and Caliban. The world upon which Dievas landed, Romuva, was neither. Unlike his brother's homes, Romuva was a hellish prison world. Its inhabitants were not forced to work nor confined to cells. They were simply dropped to Romuva's surface from orbit and left there to fend for themselves,the most brutaland vicious dregs of the surrounding planets and systems, men and women too brutal for their crimes to be confined by prison walls, so brutal that only exile to hell would confine them. They were sent to Romuva in automated drop ships, similar to escape pods, able to convey them to the planet's surface but useless to travel off it.

 

The world they found themselves on when they left their pods was the incarnation of Hell from ancient Terran myth. The sun's light never reached the world's surface, blocked out by the thick, choking clouds of pollution which rained black rain that turned the soil to a quagmire and burned any skin it touched, blinding anyone who let it touch their eyes. The only light came from rents in the world's earth and fires from wells of gas, a diabolic orange glow that brought with it both heat, that got trapped beneath the polluting clouds, heating Romuva's surface to almost unsurvivable temperatures, and poisonous fumes that dissolved the lungs and rotted the skin of any who breathed them in and covered the land like a thick fog. Those convicts who survived more than a few hours on Romuva's surface were often forced to live in "dens" caves hollowed out from the earth which could then be expanded with series' of winding tunnels lit only by the dull light of lumen globes. Sometimes when tunneling, the convicts would come across relics of Romuva's past, caches of biological, chemical and even nuclear weaponry which they would unleash upon rival groups of convicts for their own sick amusement.

 

Here they eked out a living, hunting other convicts on the surface and in the tunnels for food while sheltering from their world's deadly climate all other times. This was the world on which the young Dievas landed.

 

How he survived his opening hours is unknown and often held to be miraculous testament to the endurance of the primarch biology. However, some have argued that it would have been better if he had not for the child stumbling across the poisonous wastes of Romuva, unprotected and slowly dying, was discovered by Vils, a cruel and sadistic leader of the Black Vipers gang. When he discovered the young primarch, with his ghostly pale skin and blackish violet eyes, he saw nothing but a mutant. However, this particular mutant had survived on Romuva's surface unprotected. So, he and his gang dragged Dievas back to their den and imprisoned him in a labyrinth of tunnels, crudely chaining him to a wall and waited, to see whether he would live or die. True to his primarch biology, Dievas soon began to heal, his body doing its best to repair the damage done to it in those opening hours. After several months imprisoned, Dievas broke loose of his bonds. However, this was just the result that Vils had been hoping for, for now he knew the endurance of his captive far exceeded that of normal humans. Recapturing the young primarch, he and his gang imprisoned him in another, altogether more devilish device.

 

With the appearance of an adamamtium coffin, it was, in effect, a healing chamber. Inside it, its occupant was put to sleep and plugged in to life support machines that would maintain and heal their bodies. It was in here that they kept Dievas, building new coffins as the primarch grew, transferring the machinery of the the original to these new coffins. Here Dievas slumbered, only awoken to have the most horrendous tortures imaginable inflicted upon his body by Vils and his fellow convicts for no purpose than to relieve their boredom or to test new weapons that they had rediscovered in Romuva's earth. When they were done, Dievas would be imprisoned in his coffin once more to slumber and to heal the terrible wounds inflicted on his body as best as the life sustaining machines and his own biology could.

 

However, even as they destroyed his body, often Dievas would manage to break loose of his bonds, killing many of his captors and suffering ever worse wounds in vengeance. The final time he boke loose, a year before the Emperor found him, he killed Vils himself and having a lung carved out from his body in bloody retribution by the other convicts before being put into hibernation again.

 

When the Emperor finally came to spirit Dievas away, the primarch's superhuman biology had been pushed to its limits. The Magos Biologis team who examined him concluded that it was miracle for him to have survived so long, even with his advanced biology and his eventual death, if left in his present state, was guaranteed. Such news did not please the Emperor for to lose one of his generals before he even took command of his legion would be a devestating blow to the Imperium. Therefore he commanded the Magos Biologis do whatever they must to keep Dievas alive, no matter the cost.

 

When Dievas emerged from their chambers, he was more machine than man and sealed inside a specially constructed suit of Tactical Dreadnought Armour whose life support systems he was dependent on to keep his organic body, what remained of it, alive. His face was covered by a grotesque face mask in the shape of a screaming face and covered with pipes that snaked back into Dievas' armour. His voice was the tinny rasp of an augmentic throat. A testament to humanity's power to destroy, the II^nd primarch had been found.

 

EDIT: As to the question: Eagle Warriors are the most likely suspects.

Edited March 9, 2017 by Sigismund229

[bluntblade]

Just remembered the image that gave me the idea for Alex "conducting" holos of stars, fleets and worlds:

[Slips]

I'm actually sad 30k Dorn doesnt have an Emperor-Style Power Talon in addition to Storms Teeth :(