MikhalLeNoir Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The returning: Mikhal Le Noir^^ Back from vacation, back to Civilization with fast internet, back to my sculpting tools. Little teaser for the next: A bigger little teaser exclusively for the botl^^ simison, Raktra, Doctor Perils and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4713933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 You were gone? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4713939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 ^^ having only 58bytes per second is as good as gone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4713940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 And once again, I'm goad to have a place on the web away from anything political. Anyway, got the Shepherds' second elite written up, would appreciate suggestions for their rules and the other units (though Raktra, I believe, has tweaked Khârn already). I'll go through the PFD on my break and see if I can add any fluff for the Drowned's elites. May also tweak the fluff for the Scions'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4713985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 *Raktra mentally notes to post up Khârn's rules* bluntblade 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4714004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Thanks Raktra. We ought to consider Sejanus and... who was our third initial guy? Not Vyrn or Nix if I remember rightly. I might trundle out some descriptions for the Primarchs - Icarion and Ka'wil have theirs, but Pionus, Morro amd Koschei haven't, Possibly Daer'dd too. Massacre has blurbs for some Legions' exemplary battle(s) so I may also go to work on some of those. Edited April 19, 2017 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4714273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) I've bee in contact with Talonair about the Mortera sketch (I just started again), and now that I'm in school holidays I'll hopefully have more time. I was wondering, though; are we restricting ourselves purely to the Legions, Solar Auxilia and Mechanicum (in terms of forces with actual rules)? Is there any potential to have more fleshed out fluff + rules for Demiurg/Squats, and other alien races? Edited April 20, 2017 by foamy248 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Uh oh, he said the 'S'-word, prepare for the GW Exterminatus kill team. At this point, we are. FW isn't even trying to come up with xenos forces in the Legion era that I'm not sure where we would start. That and B&C explicitly bans any lengthy discussion of them, so we would have to move that conversation to another forum. We might have an Imperial Militia provenance that are xeno-based, but that's as close as we might get to rules for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 That and B&C explicitly bans any lengthy discussion of them, so we would have to move that conversation to another forum. Even when it falls under the aegis of an Alternate Universe Project? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Even then. This board is for humans alone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 well that's frustrating...although if you really think about it, the Eldar and the Orks have been around for a long time, so I can understand why FW hasn't really done anything for them in regards to the HH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Don't forget: the HH is about the Legions alone. Xenos had their time during the GC and after the HH. During the HH, they are merely footnotes (if anything at all). And B&C is very strict about this. Back when the Genestealer codex was released, there was a heavy discussion about including them or not. In the end, Genestealers are xenos lovin' & tainted scumbags and banned from this board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Wouldn't Demiurg fall under Abhumans (like Ogryns and ratings) and gender be safe to discuss here? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Well I don't think it's ever been clarified, Canon-wise at least, whether the Demiurg are intended to be the same race as the Squats. According to the WH40k wiki, they are a just a humanoid xenos race. But actual Squats are definitely free to discuss on here, as they were originally explicitly stated to be abhumans, and part of the Imperial faction. RikuEru 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Well, when I had the Demiurg become an ally of Daer'dd's when we started it was under the implication that Jes Goodwin's sketches of Demiurg were most definitely Squats, perhaps he intended to give them a more dignified name. Either way for all intents and purposes our Demiurg are Squats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) "We don't use the S word!" - common Three Fires saying Edited April 20, 2017 by bluntblade simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 So squats are ok because they're essentially just mutated humans (like Ogryns), but Demiurg aren't because they're an independent xenos race? Is that the final verdict? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Those are the rules of the b&c. If GW decides to make the demiurg into abhumans in the future, then we are allowed to discuss them. Before thst they count as xenos and are not allowed on this board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Well, that would apply to the canon races. Here, I think Redd rolled them into a single abhuman race with Squats being the nickname while Demiurge is the proper name. In which case, they'd be legal along with the other abhumans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Thank you Simi that's exactly what happened. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Oh good. I think it's a clever way to resolve that weird bit of 40k lore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 Reminder largely to myself - there's a grammatical error in Icarion's rules blurb simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4715838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Can someone remind me of the known Stormbird patterns besides the Sokar? Might flick an email to the chap who made this and see if we could use it as the basis for a larger pattern. Edited April 22, 2017 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4716394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 The Abyssii have a pattern called the Warmonger Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4716415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Khonsou and Apophis, the latter being the largest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/47/#findComment-4716427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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