LameBeard Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 What kits / bits have good heavy and special weapons for MKVI that might be a good idea to get for conversion work with the up coming release? I have a couple spare Mk IV heavy bolters and a couple spare Mk III heavy bolters (plastic underslung) - I could be persuaded to donate these to a worthy cause if you're in the UK. PM me if interested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5815363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 What kits / bits have good heavy and special weapons for MKVI that might be a good idea to get for conversion work with the up coming release? I have a couple spare Mk IV heavy bolters and a couple spare Mk III heavy bolters (plastic underslung) - I could be persuaded to donate these to a worthy cause if you're in the UK. PM me if interested. I'm in the USA, but thank you for the offer! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5815369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I'm in the USA, but thank you for the offer! I didn’t mean to sound so parochial! I just meant posting overseas is probably a bit more hassle than it’s worth… anyway, please remember to post your conversions here, i look forward to seeing them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5815382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Will do! I'm going to do 40k Dark Angels after I finish my 40k Deathguard, then lots of 30k Dark angels and another legion I have not picked yet! I will post my conversions for sure! Edited April 13, 2022 by Marshall Mittens LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5815385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 I've been in the process of working on some homebrew for Heresy 2E. Here's a rough mock-up on a Wulfen Pack so far. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5816819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) So I haven’t seen much of the Heresy 2.0 yet, but from the stat line, in Heresy 1.0 I think Gal Vorbak could be a peer comparison? Do you really want them to be better than them? I suggest a small toning down and an addition of a special rule like “Damned” which acts as a disadvantage. There are lots of good ideas here, I just think ‘less is more’ could help. Edit: sorry I just assumed you wanted comments or criticism, but I see you didn’t explicitly ask - feel free to ignore my reaction! Edited April 17, 2022 by LameBeard Joe 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5816864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Took a bit of time today to look at my Sons of Horus 'pending pile' - and realised I probably have more standard Tactical Marines than first anticipated... So, any future Tacticals will need to be otherwise deployed! I think the Alpha Legion might look good with 'beaks'... Marshal Mittens 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5817156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 another set of pre-Sanguinius marines (vet tact) LameBeard, Marshal Mittens, tinpact and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5817237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 So I haven’t seen much of the Heresy 2.0 yet, but from the stat line, in Heresy 1.0 I think Gal Vorbak could be a peer comparison? Do you really want them to be better than them? I suggest a small toning down and an addition of a special rule like “Damned” which acts as a disadvantage. There are lots of good ideas here, I just think ‘less is more’ could help. Edit: sorry I just assumed you wanted comments or criticism, but I see you didn’t explicitly ask - feel free to ignore my reaction! Feedback is appreciated. \o I've been tweaking them for the last few days to be a bit weaker. Should have a draft of the page to share again by the end of the week. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5817612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Well, I finally painted a Night Lord after 4 years lol. I've been wanting to repaint my Night Lords for a long time, and I finally landed on a scheme that clicked. This is basically the same style that kizzdougs famously does so well, just...much worse on the pre-shade placement lol. It was also the first contekar I've painted, which is a little sad since they came out a year and a half ago. The models are sweet, just dripping in that Night Lord goodness. Just wish they didn't have split ranged weapons lol. WrathOfTheLion, Corswain, Excessus and 11 others 14 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5817858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 @SkimaskMohawk Very nice work indeed, that blue really pops! SkimaskMohawk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5817873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) I'd forgotten about the Contekar models. I got too distracted by the shiny stuff on the way but now I'm gonna have to squeeze some of them into the budget. Looking good, mate. Edited April 21, 2022 by Corswain SkimaskMohawk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5817899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 V3 Wulfen rules, more consistency with 3E Wulfen now. Still tweaking here and there. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5818663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 @joe Might want to add a + next to the strength value of the claws lol. I noticed in the earlier version of your rules you had the wolfen at M9 and reduced it down. If you're worried about their base movement speed, you could always give them fleet (1) to give them a little extra on the run and charge. Maybe even drop the movement to 7 and give them fleet (2)? I don't remember the rules for 3rd Ed wulfen top well, but I think normal movement with a bonus when going all out is thematic. @pearson73 and corswain thanks guys. I really like the hue, I just have to replicate it properly. Would help if I cleaned my airbrush to use my .15mm needle properly lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5818669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Why would the claws be S 5+1=6? Seems unnecessary as does the Hammer of Wrath - the baseline stats are doing plenty of work. Not sure the 230 for 5, +25 for extra is quite the right balance any more, but I guess playtesting will give a good idea on points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5818719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Why would the claws be STR 1? Like the fenrisian axe is str+1 ap-, reaping blow already, and Joe has them equipped with those too, so maybe they were meant to be STR 5 ap 4, reaping blow with the claws to give some options. But either way, they need weight of high strength attacks if they're not getting any armour piercing or rerolls. One of those 25 point wulfen averages 1 wound through power armour out of their 6 attacks on the charge with the axe profile. That's really low, especially considering they only have a 4+ save and t4. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5818740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Why would the claws be STR 1? I see I was not clear. I’m not suggesting they would be. I assumed you were correct that Joe intended +1, and I’m trying to move the debate forward, suggesting to Joe that is still a little over the top in terms of reflecting the lore. On your second point about options and ‘bite’, I can see what you mean. Maybe taking out reaping blow (isn’t this the one Deathguard get on the powersycthe?) for something else … not sure what yet without adding complexity … SkimaskMohawk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5818743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Ah gotcha. The issue seems to be representing their savage and ferocious nature without just using ap. Unfortunately, a lot of defensive stats got ratcheted up, so you need more offensive stats now to compensate (like chainswords getting shred). Rage, reaping blow, shred, rampage, and breaching are the tools to use without juicing the base stats. I think the claws should stay at STR 5 and either gain breaching 5 or rending 6. That would give some difference between the two weapons while giving a bit of soft ap piercing. The night lords glaives are STR+2 ap 3, shred, breaching 6 as a comparison. I definitely forgot wolves can run and charge, so definitely don't give these guys fleet like I initially suggested. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5818753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 first of my converted iron hands nullificators is finished minus basing TrawlingCleaner, Loquille, Chaeron and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5818966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) first of my converted iron hands nullificators is finished minus basing That's ingenious and really well done, I think I need to give it a go now Edit: Where is the maul from? I don't recognise it Edited April 25, 2022 by Harrowmaster Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5819241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Latest addition to the Alpha Legion vehicle park... Cactus, Iron Hands Fanatic, Loquille and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5819355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loquille Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Decided to rebuild and paint an old Praetor for the 8th Legion ready for the new edition. Edited April 25, 2022 by Loquille Corswain, Iron Hands Fanatic, Aztek and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5819524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Finished up the Nullificator squad and my final Iron Hands Boxnought: first of my converted iron hands nullificators is finished minus basing That's ingenious and really well done, I think I need to give it a go now Edit: Where is the maul from? I don't recognise it Thanks! The mauls use the GK terminator halberd hafts with the magna-grapples from the blood angels' dreadnought attached as the head with a bit of sprue filling in the hole at the top LameBeard, Harrowmaster, Excessus and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5819529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 That's very clever, thanks for the parts list. Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5819664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Finished a Contekar in my new NL scheme Runefyre, JeffJedi, Loquille and 11 others 14 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/65/#findComment-5819717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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