BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I’ve decided to switch out the assault Intercessors for Intercessors armed with bolt rifles as I think they’ll provide better support and are more suited towards objective camping. This is all the troops I can afford. Another Chaplain might be better than the Judicar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5625703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Divine Protection is probably the best one on our own table, although it's less valuable if you don't have a single big target to put it on. Fervent Acclamation is often the best second pick for an MoS, especially if you have the Aurillian Shroud, an Apothecary, and/or Helbrecht since all of those auras get boosted. On the primary table, Canticle of Hate is amazing for Devout Push shenanigans. Any of the +1 to hit/wound litanies are solid if you have a good target to use them on, although you may prefer using Canticle plus Litany of Hate most of the time. Medjugorje and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5625719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 The new Chaplain stratagem opens up way more options for Chaplains so I think it will depend on what you want out of your Chaplain, 5+FNP is really good if you have a big chunky unit like Outriders, Terminators or a Gravis squad after that you can either take Fervent Acclamation or +1A depending on your list. I personally didnt like Canticle of Hate before because I was giving up +1 to hit and/or to wound which was an amazing buff for your backline but now that I can cast it for free and every turn I can totally see its use for a more aggressive Chaplain. The only litanies I will never use are Litany of Faith because we already have a 5+ agaisnt MWs, Psalm of Remorseless Prosecution because you can just take a Lieutenant or a Dreadnought to get reroll 1s to wound, Vow of Retribution because leadership shenanighans are not very reliable and Oath of Glory because fighting first is kind of wonky and we want to get the charge so it seems like a not very efficient fail safe. Every other litany has a use and is great but they depend on your army list and what you want your Chaplain to do. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5625770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I’ve decided to switch out the assault Intercessors for Intercessors armed with bolt rifles as I think they’ll provide better support and are more suited towards objective camping. This is all the troops I can afford. Another Chaplain might be better than the Judicar. If you are deploying the BGV from the impulsor and using Devout Push, the Judciar is really almost necessary as he makes sure they get to swing first. He also has the added benefit that your opponent can't use the 2cp strat to intervene if you have units that charged that turn. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5627443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Yeah I’m going to stick with the Judicar for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5627450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 any idea why we dont have Knights of Sigsimund anymore and why GW waiting for so long time? Are they just unable to do so or whatever makes them not to react? I really hate that GW policy TheUnlikelyGamer84 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 They haven't released FAQs for any of the Index Astartes articles nor the new codexes yet, right? Ostensibly it'll be in there. If the new codex FAQ comes out and Knights of Sigismund isn't restored, then is the time for pitchforks, I think. For right now it's super annoying but we still have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 last edition there were a FAQ every two weeks after a codex... where is it now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Valkenhayn Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 They did make an announcement that FAQs would start coming out 1 month after release rather than 2 weeks. It'll be soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) any idea why we dont have Knights of Sigsimund anymore and why GW waiting for so long time? Are they just unable to do so or whatever makes them not to react? I really hate that GW policy Obviously we will get something better, like Oaths? Pledges? Solemn Promises? xD Edited November 6, 2020 by Sete Marshal Valkenhayn and Hymnblade 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punchomatic Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 any idea why we dont have Knights of Sigsimund anymore and why GW waiting for so long time? Are they just unable to do so or whatever makes them not to react? I really hate that GW policy Obviously we will get something better, like Oaths? Pledges? Solemn Promises? xD Harsh language! Doghouse 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Excuse my ignorance but what are Knights of Sigismund ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 It's the name of our chapter doctrine bonus, which gave us auto-wound on 6s in the assault doctrine. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Thanks ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5628832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Obviously we will get something better, like Oaths? Pledges? Solemn Promises? xD Spiritual Liege © Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Valkenhayn Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Knights of Sigismund is back, and it's the same steaming turd it always was. No attempt to make it even slightly more user friendly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydonianDragoon404 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Oh please, it's not a steaming turd, you're just complaining that we're not as OP as white scars. Crimson cowboy, BLACK BLΠFLY and painting.for.my.sanity 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Valkenhayn Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Oh please, it's not a steaming turd, you're just complaining that we're not as OP as white scars. It's a middling quality buff, but the buff itself isn't the issue I have with it. I'm one of the people who support auto wounding as a usable concept for our chapter tactic. The issue is it's auto wounding on 6+, only in assault, and only if we charge or heroic. It doesn't work if we ourselves get charged, or if we use Divine Push to pile into an enemy. It also doesn't work in ongoing combats. And if those weren't enough restrictions, it doesn't trigger against vehicles. It isn't that it's mechanically bad, it's fine. It has potential to be good if we had a way to give +1 to it somehow through a strat or Warlord aura. It's a turd because of all the hoops you have to jump through to activate it, especially in comparison to other melee chapters. I was hoping we'd at least gain access to it if we are charged in the update, but not surprised we didn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 better then nothing... until we get new rules I hope it will be changed. Must not be that OP like the WS one but a bit more reliable BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Cool to have something till next year if rumours pan out! Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgY786MmDyk to celebrate this new faqs painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Marginally better than nothing. But it's not good. It gives no additional benefits, it just improves reliability, a bit. Irritating that it took this long to sort it out. Upside though, Grimaldus still not a MoS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segismundo Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Autowound with lots of chainswords attacks against tanks will be fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Autowound with lots of chainswords attacks against tanks will be fun. It doesn't work against tanks :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segismundo Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 That sucks at last is useful against monsters. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/49/#findComment-5629392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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