Kill Team - Nachmund - Box and CSM Revealed

[Scribe]

CSM side leaves me pretty cold.

[Son of Carnelian]

Eh, seeing the whole box makes it a pass for me.

[Halandaar]

Hmm. I really want two sets of Corsairs and given that Chaos is likely to be my second major project this year, when the rumours of Cultists being the other team were doing the rounds I was initially thinking I'd get two of these boxes. But basic Chaos Marines is not something I really need more of, and Sector Mechanicus is the type of terrain I already have the most of. I was hoping for either the Fronteris terrain kits or a return of the Deathworld Forest kits (given the Eldar theme) really.

 

Might still get two but I'd be selling the vast majority of it, which makes me wonder if it's not worth just saving myself the effort and getting the Corsairs from eBay.

[WrathOfTheLion]

For me, another CSM squad is a good thing to have if I can make them Psykers, at least for my Word Bearers.

 

I don't have any sector mechanicus terrain, so this box is good for me.

[Zebulon]

 

 

 

 

Chaos Marines look so happy.

 

Smiling

Grinning

This reads like the start of a Haiku

I'll take that bullet:

 

Smiling through madness

Chaos Marines look happy

Grinning as you die.

Chaos Marines - Look!

So happy, smiling, grinning.

Slaying sans mercy!

 

 

How did I do?!

[Guest]

Love this they took a great kit and made it better. Happy for Chaos Players.

[Grand_Master_Alpharius]

So much salt today! We're all clambering at the bit to get new chaos stuff and it when it happens? Geez fellas, inhance your calm and enjoy the wave that's coming. Me personally, I think this set is awesome and I'm totally gonna get one!

[Iron Father Ferrum]

So much salt today! We're all clambering at the bit to get new chaos stuff and it when it happens? Geez fellas, inhance your calm and enjoy the wave that's coming. Me personally, I think this set is awesome and I'm totally gonna get one!

Oh Hell yeah.  Maybe two!  I've already devised a devious plan whereby I'm going to use that two-handed heavy chainaxe for a Lord conversion, having swapped the head out for the spare hammer head I'll have from my EO Warpsmith.

[Bryan Blaire]

The only thing I wish was different was the terrain - I’ve got enough Mechanicus terrain - buuuuuuuuuut the box set is really something I was looking at, so it might be time for some additional ruined Mechanicus terrain to accompany the stuff that was in the Ruined Manufactorum kit.

 

The Chaos kit looks very nice alongside the Corsairs and I don’t have any of the new Chaos Marines yet, so the upgrade kit is extra all around for me.

 

I think this also bodes well for the future Chaos cult lines, and hopefully some Legion specific kits of some kind (veterans of the veterans of the Long War, perhaps?).

[Noserenda]

Yeah the terrain is the only downer in the set for me too, possibly a deal breaker depending on price, there is a threshold where i give up on the marines and just ebay a Corsair band.

[Cheex]

As long as there's a reasonable saving, I'm 100% getting this box. I've already got a CSM team but I can always just use the new bits to make the new specialists. I'm also collecting Sector Mechanicus terrain, so that is also welcome. And I've always wanted to kitbash some knife-ears with AoS models to make something unique.

[Vesalius]

So is this upgrade sprue going to eventually get added to the CSM box, or is it just like a special thing? Don’t know what they did with the pathfinder one.

[ThePenitentOne]

My guess is they'll leave the 40k kit as is, bot release the KT as a separate like they did Kriegers and Komandos. The KT box will include the sprue , but will have a higher price tag.

 

My logic for this is that we some of the options in the KT kit (ie on the sprue) may not be usable in 40k. Novitiate KT options certainly aren't.

[Bloody Legionnaire]

Gotta say that I'm not thrilled with the set. The actual upgrade sprue is really cool; the parts look flavourful and offer masses of kitbashing potential. GW have knocked every CSM model they've made in the last 5 years or so out of the park and these are no different. But the base CSM squad is less than 3 years old, and now the price will presumably be inflated with an upgrade sprue that offers options the squad can get nowhere else. I appreciate that there probably weren't a lot of good options for an actual Chaos Space Marine kill team, but I would have preferred to see something like Renegade Guard or a mixture of Cultists/Mutants, that sort of thing, fill the slot for us.

 

I'd also hoped to see (some of) the new Fronteris terrain in the box, or even Imperialis again, so yet more Sector Mechanicus stuff is a bit of a disappointment.

 

On the plus side, this does seem to provide a shot in the arm for the validity of those CSM rumours, which contain some very exciting changes for veterans of the long war.

you don’t think the upgrade sprue will be marketed just like space marine chapter upgrade sprues? Maybe what GW did with BT will be the model going forward…

[Grand_Master_Alpharius]

 

Gotta say that I'm not thrilled with the set. The actual upgrade sprue is really cool; the parts look flavourful and offer masses of kitbashing potential. GW have knocked every CSM model they've made in the last 5 years or so out of the park and these are no different. But the base CSM squad is less than 3 years old, and now the price will presumably be inflated with an upgrade sprue that offers options the squad can get nowhere else. I appreciate that there probably weren't a lot of good options for an actual Chaos Space Marine kill team, but I would have preferred to see something like Renegade Guard or a mixture of Cultists/Mutants, that sort of thing, fill the slot for us.

 

I'd also hoped to see (some of) the new Fronteris terrain in the box, or even Imperialis again, so yet more Sector Mechanicus stuff is a bit of a disappointment.

 

On the plus side, this does seem to provide a shot in the arm for the validity of those CSM rumours, which contain some very exciting changes for veterans of the long war.

you don’t think the upgrade sprue will be marketed just like space marine chapter upgrade sprues? Maybe what GW did with BT will be the model going forward…

 

That would be the best way!

Yeah the terrain is the only downer in the set for me too, possibly a deal breaker depending on price, there is a threshold where i give up on the marines and just ebay a Corsair band.

To be fair, what does it actually matter. More terrain is good regardless of what it is, right?

[spessmarine]

Sculpts are fine, like how the possessed is almost a repaste of one of the greater possessed except I think it is an intentional reference to getting more possessed.

It's weak though due to being  mundane. Not quite as exciting as Corsairs/Krieg/Kommandos but probably on par with the Tau squad.

[Filkarion]

Looooooong time not posting, but I am stil alive it seems!

I really like the upgrade bits! They also are suggestive of specific legions without being unusable in others! With the "right" shoulder bads I think they will look ok! We also had some interesting confirmations of recent rumors.

I am not sold on the paintjob style ( but quality is really good), faces are a bit too cartoney for me but the bits seem very solid!

At least one smile! One of my last post was about how hard it was o find smiling faces but for nurgle models! So I really like the upgrade and I am looking forward to see some of those bits painted in a different way by the amazing painters in this community!

[nagashnee]

While for people who just want the minis the amount of terrain can be a bad bad thing, as someone who only wants cheap sector mechanicus terrain and knows eldar and chaos players who dont this is a fantastic box! 

[Jukkiz]

Am i only one but does this box feels like they pushing more terrain then models again? Price tags are rising and you´re getting more terrain then actual units nowdays?

[Matcap86]

Am i only one but does this box feels like they pushing more terrain then models again? Price tags are rising and you´re getting more terrain then actual units nowdays?

 

I mean the kill teams have always consisted of single units? And for the game more terrain often is better. 

[nagashnee]

 

Am i only one but does this box feels like they pushing more terrain then models again? Price tags are rising and you´re getting more terrain then actual units nowdays?

 

I mean the kill teams have always consisted of single units? And for the game more terrain often is better. 

 

How many players actually own their own table tho? Like i am glad it has it cause i do, but based on my experiences in the hobby maybe 1 in 5 will own a table, and even that may be generous. 

 

Putting lots of terrain will almost never be a good thing for the majority, best case its popular and you sell it off, but if lots of people do that it kills the price so lose lose.  For sets like sector mechanicus that have been pushed plenty and with discounts, more is most likely bad. 

Edited February 22, 2022 by nagashnee

[Halandaar]

Am i only one but does this box feels like they pushing more terrain then models again? Price tags are rising and you´re getting more terrain then actual units nowdays?

Err, it's Kill Team? Small number of units is the entire point of it, along with GWs other skirmish-scale systems, and terrain has formed a major part of those box sets going all the way back to the original Necromunda and Mordheim boxes in the late 90s.

[Matcap86]

 

 

Am i only one but does this box feels like they pushing more terrain then models again? Price tags are rising and you´re getting more terrain then actual units nowdays?

 

I mean the kill teams have always consisted of single units? And for the game more terrain often is better. 

 

How many players actually own their own table tho? Like i am glad it has it cause i do, but based on my experiences in the hobby maybe 1 in 5 will own a table, and even that may be generous. 

 

Putting lots of terrain will almost never be a good thing for the majority, best case its popular and you sell it off, but if lots of people do that it kills the price so lose lose.  For sets like sector mechanicus that have been pushed plenty and with discounts, more is most likely bad. 

 

 

You can get the teams seperate later? I really don't see the problem here. These sets are meant to be complete intro points and you need some terrain to play the game. In my experience about 4 out of 5 people I know own their own table or terrain setup so anecdotal statements like that are pretty useless. 

[Ruskinses]

I mean if your financial situation is that you cant afford to buy coffee/dining table then you shouldnt probably be buying plastic models

[Iron Father Ferrum]

Some people might not have space for a table big enough for gaming.