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30k and 40k differs because 30k could realistically have 100 marines in your army and still only be half the points cost of your force.

There might very well be financial and logistical reasons for it, but uniformity will also be part of the design philosophy as HH is supposed to have tens of thousands of functionally identical marines wearing different marks of armour all trained to move and aim in the same way. 

 

The old style way was no more modular than these in terms of posing anyway, After all, there's only so many degrees of rotation you can shift the waist without it looking wrong. It was easier to mix different legs and torsos, I grant you. 

 

No excuses for not having single turbine jump packs though.  That's poor. 

29 minutes ago, Valkyrion said:

30k and 40k differs because 30k could realistically have 100 marines in your army and still only be half the points cost of your force.

There might very well be financial and logistical reasons for it, but uniformity will also be part of the design philosophy as HH is supposed to have tens of thousands of functionally identical marines wearing different marks of armour all trained to move and aim in the same way. 

 

The old style way was no more modular than these in terms of posing anyway, After all, there's only so many degrees of rotation you can shift the waist without it looking wrong. It was easier to mix different legs and torsos, I grant you. 

 

No excuses for not having single turbine jump packs though.  That's poor. 

Similar poses in different armour marks really does make the difference. A Mk IV, say, pointing with a sword is a whole different vibe from a Mk V even if the poses are very similar, especially if like people on here you're big into your lore, so the limits are actually less of an issue, especially with the sheer number of intercompatible parts, and that's without all the optional accessories.

I have more than enough power armor marines to build a legion. I wonder however how these would compare to Intercessors in size? Sorry if this was already asked. A sicarian is the last vehicle I need but maybe I will print up a new turret for it. Hopefully GW wizens up and does a Legends of the Heresy PDF for 11th. Really tempted to do a Howling Griffons army again and having the new 40k marine models, these guys with the assault marines dialed up as vanguard jump marines would be cool. I could save the Sicarion and contemptor for my actual HH armies. 

 

Odd choice for them to market them with Sons of Horus paint schemes and not this edition's two poster boy legions.

I don't mind the five leg/torso poses too much. When you look at the 40k kits made up of 10 different bodies (e.g. Imperial Guard) you tend to see more dynamic poses like one guy running, one guy crouching, one guy jumping. This is OK if you're building one squad but it looks terrible if you have multiple squads. So I appreciate the fact that the different poses we get are within a fairly narrow range because it makes your second, third, and fourth squads all sit well together. 

 

Where I think they could have helped us out more is by making the different armour marks have slightly different stock poses, so they don't just look like the same dolly with different trousers, and/or by giving us an extra upgrade type sprue that gives you a guy reloading, a guy holding his bolter in one hand, maybe even (heresy!) a sergeant holding a bolt pistol, maybe also tabards or boot knives or the like. 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Galron said:

I have more than enough power armor marines to build a legion. I wonder however how these would compare to Intercessors in size? Sorry if this was already asked. A sicarian is the last vehicle I need but maybe I will print up a new turret for it. Hopefully GW wizens up and does a Legends of the Heresy PDF for 11th. Really tempted to do a Howling Griffons army again and having the new 40k marine models, these guys with the assault marines dialed up as vanguard jump marines would be cool. I could save the Sicarion and contemptor for my actual HH armies. 

 

Odd choice for them to market them with Sons of Horus paint schemes and not this edition's two poster boy legions.

They’re about a head shorter and far more slender

2 hours ago, Galron said:

I have more than enough power armor marines to build a legion. I wonder however how these would compare to Intercessors in size? Sorry if this was already asked. A sicarian is the last vehicle I need but maybe I will print up a new turret for it. Hopefully GW wizens up and does a Legends of the Heresy PDF for 11th. Really tempted to do a Howling Griffons army again and having the new 40k marine models, these guys with the assault marines dialed up as vanguard jump marines would be cool. I could save the Sicarion and contemptor for my actual HH armies. 

 

Odd choice for them to market them with Sons of Horus paint schemes and not this edition's two poster boy legions.

 

An Intercessor is slighlty more massive than a Legionnaire, but both are noticably mor massive than an average human mini.

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The in-hand feel and on the tabletop won't be too different though. I personally wouldn't mind if someone used 30k marine for 40k.

7 hours ago, soviet1337 said:

giving us an extra upgrade type sprue that gives you a guy reloading, a guy holding his bolter in one hand, maybe even (heresy!) a sergeant holding a bolt pistol, maybe also tabards or boot knives or the like

 

This is a great idea, and the Command squad, melee weapons and rapier crew kit add lots of characterful components like this, I've also grabbed a few of the 40k reloading arms etc, they fit perfectly.

 

On another note, I'm super pleased that we have MK4, however there's something off about them, I think the weirdly low brow, like SS3. The helms look really different to the current range.

Edited by Xenith
On 6/11/2026 at 7:16 PM, Crimson Longinus said:

 

That can't be really true. They're holding their weapons in their hands, the pose of the legs will mostly not interfere with that. 

This is how I've always felt, you could easily make the marks compatible with the various upgrade sprues without doing the EXACT SAME pose.

18 hours ago, MoriyaSchism said:

We aren't talking about Primaris models either, there aren't any identical body poses in the currently released Primaris boxes. How would you feel if the Grey Hunters and Intercessors had identical poses? Would that be good too? 

There are duplicate bodies with the Greyhunters though lol. It is not materially different from the MKII sprues I'm looking at. 

 

Valkyrion said it best IMO.

Edited by Wispy
4 hours ago, Wispy said:

There are duplicate bodies with the Greyhunters though lol. It is not materially different from the MKII sprues I'm looking at. 

 

Valkyrion said it best IMO.

 

Yes, but those are different than intercessor bodies, which are different than hellblaster bodies which are different than infernus bodies etc etc. So in the army there will actually not be that many duplicate poses and if the sameyness within one squad bothers you, you can just swap some bodies with another kit.

 

 

Edited by Crimson Longinus

You can get a level of customisation with mixing armour marks, in the same way you do with something like primaris - mixing Intercessor bodies with Wolves, assault etc. - I think the real tragedy of 30k is that you have to work really hard to mix a mkIII with a MkIV or MkVI or whatever (whether it’s a good look or not is a different matter) but that’s the same deal with primaris, I just think they have a great variance in the poses they provide. 
 

If I was king for a day I’d probably split the kits more like Saturnine and have a front/left/right facing torso and groin and hinge joint ankles and knees with a ball joint on the hips. Everyone would probably hate me making Tactical marines that modular, but the key here I’m king and I’d be happy

1 hour ago, Crimson Longinus said:

 

Yes, but those are different than intercessor bodies, which are different than hellblaster bodies which are different than infernus bodies etc etc. So in the army there will actually not be that many duplicate poses and if the sameyness within one squad bothers you, you can just swap some bodies with another kit.

There are plastic kits for 4 different power armour marks to give you that variety, tho. I promise you the difference in appearance from MKII and MKIII is vastly distinct compared to the differences between Hellblasters and Intercessors.

Edited by Wispy
1 minute ago, Wispy said:

There are plastic kits for 4 different power armour marks to give you that variety, tho. I promise you MKII and MKIII are vastly different from Hellblasters and Intercessors.

 

But this was bout the poses! Those kits have the same five poses!

6 hours ago, Blissful Brushes said:

If I was king for a day I’d probably split the kits more like Saturnine and have a front/left/right facing torso and groin and hinge joint ankles and knees with a ball joint on the hips. Everyone would probably hate me making Tactical marines that modular, but the key here I’m king and I’d be happy

I would hate this for certain, given how Saturnine are 42 parts a guy.

  

16 hours ago, Xirix said:

This is how I've always felt, you could easily make the marks compatible with the various upgrade sprues without doing the EXACT SAME pose.

Probably fair.

Edited by SvenIronhand

My favorite mark of power armor. I put a lot of my Heresy work on hold since I only wanted Mark IV and VI marines. Excited to be working on 30k projects again!



Edit:

Oh my lord the old FW jump packs really were 100x better. 

Edited by ShibeKing

Personally speaking, if I had made the new marks I would have made the legs and torso separate and had a small nub that aligns them, much like on the arms, that you can clip off.

 

I think the main issue is sprue space and allowing them to make the kits simpler to produce. You also have kits like the Mk III where the front armour is a bit more integrated unlike previous editions. The arms from special weapon upgrades matching up does make some sense but I rarely follow the instructions on those and most match up anyway regardless of the torso. The rule of five complete models on one sprue also works well for them as they can just chuck sprues in combat patrol style boxes.

 

You can cut the torso off the legs to mix and match marks but it is a larger extra step and not sure it will work as easy with the likes of modern Mk IV and Mk III.

 

It is subtle but at least one of the Mk IV is a new pose. 

I don't think it's a huge problem, as I think armies still look quite good and varied with just a little bit of work. But at the same time, I won't pretend that I wouldn't prefer the torsos and legs to be separate and that my mind isn't a little boggled that they're not.

17 hours ago, ShibeKing said:

My favorite mark of power armor. I put a lot of my Heresy work on hold since I only wanted Mark IV and VI marines. Excited to be working on 30k projects again!



Edit:

Oh my lord the old FW jump packs really were 100x better. 

 

Yes to MkIV!

 

I've been sitting on Heresy since 2nd Ed waiting for it's time.

 

I'm undecided on the packs at the moment, will probably wait until I have them in hand but I'm sure I'll be able to find someone selling the FW design ones (I get not ideal as another expense).

the real crime here is that we havent had any legion specific upgrades for other armour marks after mk6. With FW resin going the way of the dodo it looks less and less likely we will ever get official upgrades. 

6 minutes ago, sarabando said:

the real crime here is that we havent had any legion specific upgrades for other armour marks after mk6. With FW resin going the way of the dodo it looks less and less likely we will ever get official upgrades. 

players are getting legion specific upgrades... 

...It´s transfers 

2 hours ago, sarabando said:

the real crime here is that we havent had any legion specific upgrades for other armour marks after mk6. With FW resin going the way of the dodo it looks less and less likely we will ever get official upgrades. 

 

Wouldn't be surprised if we see legion specific plastic upgrades in the near future.  1 per legion, standard sprue size, big enough for pieces from multiple amour marks.

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