MoriyaSchism Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, sarabando said: the real crime here is that we havent had any legion specific upgrades for other armour marks after mk6. With FW resin going the way of the dodo it looks less and less likely we will ever get official upgrades. Get with the times, old man. Horus Heresy is the minimum viable product and you better like it because Warhammer IS BACK and it's BETTER than ever. phandaal, derLumpi, sarabando and 2 others 1 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissful Brushes Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 They won’t other than transfers or legion specific units I don’t think. 18 factions = 18 extra units as a minimum and 18 mk2,3,4,5,6 upgrade sprues. I doubt they’d even do that for SoH or IF as the marquee sub factions, let alone the rest. They probably wouldn’t even do that for UM in 40k tbh Robbienw 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soviet1337 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 I think when you look at it from a 40k point of view plastic legion stuff looks unlikely, but when you compare it to the amount of plastic releases stuff like Necromunda gets, I dunno. I think if they weren't going to do it they would have carried on with the resin. i'm not sure we'll see purely cosmetic legion upgrade sprues, but I expect we will see legion-specific upgrade sprues (or maybe standalone kits) for the legion specific units. Maybe this is queued up at the moment behind getting the rest of the generic units out first, so plastic SoH Reavers can either be an upgrade sprue for a plastic Despoilers kit or maybe just a new unit based on the same CAD file. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Gotta keep buying legions specific upgrades like transfers and shoulder pads just to show geedubs how much I want word bearers upgrades. *Looks at bank account* ...hmmm, maybe next paycheck.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 10 hours ago, sarabando said: the real crime here is that we havent had any legion specific upgrades for other armour marks after mk6. With FW resin going the way of the dodo it looks less and less likely we will ever get official upgrades. Feels like that's a down the road thing. They're just wrapping up a ton of housekeeping, moving the main building blocks to plastic. The backbone of the setting is all there now. I wonder if they do upgrade sprues or continue to do resin kits. I can't imagine them starting to move Legion specific squads like Firedrakes or Deathsworn move to plastic? painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soviet1337 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 It's funny, I avoided the resin kits for a long time because I thought they would be a nightmare (particularly after all the failcast stuff) but over the last couple of years I got several SoH characters and 10 Justaerin and they were all a breeze. I would have no hesitation getting more forgeworld resin kits (although I haven't dared try any vehicles yet). It seems a big shame to not keep making resin dudes when they were so good, if you can't take over with plastic pretty damn quick. We do know that GW plastics have a very long development time, I suspect (hope) that HH2's success took them by surprise, they pulled the trigger on even more plastics including the legion specific stuff, and we are just in the long tail between the last of the resin releases and the first of the plastic (legion) releases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissful Brushes Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, soviet1337 said: It's funny, I avoided the resin kits for a long time because I thought they would be a nightmare (particularly after all the failcast stuff) but over the last couple of years I got several SoH characters and 10 Justaerin and they were all a breeze. I would have no hesitation getting more forgeworld resin kits (although I haven't dared try any vehicles yet). It seems a big shame to not keep making resin dudes when they were so good, if you can't take over with plastic pretty damn quick. We do know that GW plastics have a very long development time, I suspect (hope) that HH2's success took them by surprise, they pulled the trigger on even more plastics including the legion specific stuff, and we are just in the long tail between the last of the resin releases and the first of the plastic (legion) releases. I’ve not had a good experience with their resin vehicles, having built a Spartan, Sicaran and warhound. The small stuff they seem ok with but once you get into the tank territory you’re looking at warps that can be measured with a ruler and mould lines and bubbles that ruin the whole thing unfortunately Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirix Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 For what it's worth, in one of the livestreams they did say legion specific stuff would be in plastic somewhere down the line. Whether that included generic upgrade kits or were just going to be the unique units tho, no clue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Their choice to really promote kit bashing in all the journals does give me hope they're going to add more and more modularity to the kits in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 17 hours ago, MoriyaSchism said: Get with the times, old man. Horus Heresy is the minimum viable product and you better like it because Warhammer IS BACK and it's BETTER than ever. *Shakes six fingered Mk IV fist* You young whippersnappers don't know you're born - I remember the time our legion upgrade kits were different paint schemes you had to apply yourself! What was I saying? Oh, yes! Go to your room and fiddle with your fancy-pants modern plastics sonny, whilst I put my teeth in, and file these upgrade kit Wolves icons off my new Word Bearer... ZeroWolf, Corswain, MoriyaSchism and 3 others 2 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6175901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissful Brushes Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 17 hours ago, Xirix said: For what it's worth, in one of the livestreams they did say legion specific stuff would be in plastic somewhere down the line. Whether that included generic upgrade kits or were just going to be the unique units tho, no clue. Well that gives me hope and I hope that I’m wrong! Saying that, the rate they do it I’ll be in the year 30k by the time they’re all out brother_b 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 As much as I hope we see some Legion upgrades come soon, I don't hold out too much hope. I think we're more likely to see the units catered for, maybe with bits that can be mixed in to others. Fortunately there are Legion flavoured stuff out there, Shoulder pads nice and easy and there is other stuff (I do appreciate not 'official' though and could therefore cause issues at GW events) such as weapons. Although I'm still trying to find some Marine sized NOT Power Axes for Fenrisian Axe stand-ins that I like and happen to be a physical item/licensed as opposed to a file as I've no intention of taking up printing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 7 hours ago, Hfran Morkai said: As much as I hope we see some Legion upgrades come soon, I don't hold out too much hope. I think we're more likely to see the units catered for, maybe with bits that can be mixed in to others. Fortunately there are Legion flavoured stuff out there, Shoulder pads nice and easy and there is other stuff (I do appreciate not 'official' though and could therefore cause issues at GW events) such as weapons. Although I'm still trying to find some Marine sized NOT Power Axes for Fenrisian Axe stand-ins that I like and happen to be a physical item/licensed as opposed to a file as I've no intention of taking up printing. I used Warhammer marauder axes for mine that I bought loose on eBay. Marshal Mittens, Hfran Morkai, phandaal and 4 others 1 5 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Doghouse said: I used Warhammer marauder axes for mine that I bought loose on eBay. Thanks for sharing! They look pretty fitting. One step closer to realising my Heresy army. Doghouse 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 Pre-order next week, along with the absent Whirlwind and a Zone Mortalis Journal. Matcap86, Hfran Morkai and Doghouse 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirix Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 The Whirlwind is finally here! Bouargh 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Going to be an expensive weekend, definitely going to try and get a couple of boxes of this group. brother_b 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinace Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Will probably be getting the mkiv box and journal. I am actually more excited for this than for 11th but I am more of a painter than a player. Matcap86 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 How popular were the last similar boxes? Do I have to be on extra alert to preorder this in the second these go live? This is by far the first box I must have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 25 minutes ago, derLumpi said: How popular were the last similar boxes? Do I have to be on extra alert to preorder this in the second these go live? This is by far the first box I must have. Think this one might go quickly. Lots of people love the MKIV. derLumpi and Lord Marshal 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 (edited) 15 hours ago, derLumpi said: How popular were the last similar boxes? Do I have to be on extra alert to preorder this in the second these go live? This is by far the first box I must have. Hard to say. The Skitarii and Breacher/Cataprachtii boxes didn't fly off the shelves, whereas the MkIII Battle Group went relatively quickly (within the weekend most online spaces but not a 'gone within the hour' quick). Custodes sold out instantly but I wouldn't be surprised if 80% of those were 40k purchases, so I wouldn't put that in the same camp. Personally I'd err on the side of being alert, since as MatCap says people love MkIV and have been waiting for this one for a while - the last few boxes were more niche. If anything holds it back it'd be the presence of the Sircaran and Contemptor, but if the price is right that probably won't matter much. Edited June 22 by Lord Marshal Doghouse, derLumpi and Matcap86 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Ok, I will set the alarm. Thx guys! Doghouse and Matcap86 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Definitely set an alarm mate. Hopefully the following week the individual boxes will be available, I am sure they did that with the Custodes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I'm gonna hold off and hope they do a combat force. The only thing I "need" right now is the tacticals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissful Brushes Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Custodes sold out in about an hour so if you are keen I’d be prepared. I assume these won’t have the same draw but if they’re not stocking it sufficiently you don’t want to miss out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388047-new-mkiv-tactical-squad-assault-squad-maximus-battle-group/page/8/#findComment-6176496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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