bluntblade Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Same, actually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Don't know if you have seen it but there are some rumors of RG creating Space Marines 2.0. As for now, it is not clear what 2.0 will mean. Custodes army? Enhanced Marines? MK 9 + new wargear? Everything can happen these days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Not keen on those rumours. Rather cheapens the 10,000 year struggle of the Astartes. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'm more expecting Mk IX power armour and fancier guns. Not so much the marines genetic stock and whatever being redone because the Emps made that and I doubt they'd be so brash as to assume they could make better marine genetic stock than He on Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 c'mon Sangi, wake up. Blunt wants feedback. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 c'mon Sangi, wake up. Blunt wants feedback. Sorry, sorry, I'm here! What do you require of me blunt? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Don't know if you have seen it but there are some rumors of RG creating Space Marines 2.0. As for now, it is not clear what 2.0 will mean. Custodes army? Enhanced Marines? MK 9 + new wargear? Everything can happen these days. I had not heard that rumor. Which gives me an idea. We know from Deliverance Lost that marines could potentially be improved upon. We also know that the Suzerainty are going to have a rough time as a smaller empire without the same connections to Mars and so on. What if, in the process of his research, Kozja does stumble upon a couple of minor advantages for the Suzerainty marines? Like, instead of a year of gene-seed implantation, he's able to cut it down to 10 months. Nothing huge, but it is a measurable advantage. "...themselves,[ ]the most [brutal land] vicious..." And brutal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'm personally super against the idea of bigger, better space marines, but if this rumor does play out, it could be a good basis (rules and models-wise) for the Suzerainty's Genesis Legion. Kelborn and MikhalLeNoir 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) I highly doubt these rumours to be honest, there's more than enough Space Marine armies out there already without a Marines 2.0 army as well, plus the only thing higher on the " :cuss napalm and :cuss landmines scale of badassery" are, in order, Custodes, followed by Primarchs and then the Emperor himself at the top. We don't need another group there. Edited March 10, 2017 by SanguiniusReborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'd be taking it with a grain of salt too, if it weren't for the fact that this info came from one of THE most reliable rumormongers, and has been basically confirmed by another. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Sorry to go off-topic, but r/e the artist we're commissioning, who do I send the description for Mortera to and who am I sending money to and how? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I think for the main group picture it's just the Primarchs, but if you want to commission an individual one of Mortera, there should be contact info in the Recruitment/Artist thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Right. I guess my expressing interest in chipping in for one of Mortera went totally unnoticed then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Also I can't find the contact info Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Right. I guess my expressing interest in chipping in for one of Mortera went totally unnoticed then It did not. But that was back when we thought we were doing a series of individual pieces for each Primarch, instead of a group shot. I'll send you the info. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 c'mon Sangi, wake up. Blunt wants feedback.Sorry, sorry, I'm here! What do you require of me blunt? Info on what exactly making an Umbra involves. Are we talking Astartes-shaped servitors and nothing more, or are they augmented as well? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) c'mon Sangi, wake up. Blunt wants feedback.Sorry, sorry, I'm here! What do you require of me blunt?Info on what exactly making an Umbra involves. Are we talking Astartes-shaped servitors and nothing more, or are they augmented as well?Honestly? I have no idea, Sim literally just made them up for his story. :lol: Edited March 10, 2017 by SanguiniusReborn simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Well, we should consider it. I might throw in a SL perspective - perhaps a senior captain - and we should work out where the Techmarines and Chaplains factor in Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 c'mon Sangi, wake up. Blunt wants feedback.Sorry, sorry, I'm here! What do you require of me blunt? Info on what exactly making an Umbra involves. Are we talking Astartes-shaped servitors and nothing more, or are they augmented as well? It would depend on the situation. After all, these are marines who can only be programmed for basic commands. So, the natural desire is going to be to not give them really expensive, hard-to-replace wargear. But if a Steel Legion commander is faced with a really hardy enemy that needs to be cracked on, there's nothing to stop him from adding more gizmos/augmentations to the broken marine to get the job done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 I was also thinking ease of maintenance, so they might excise redundant parts of the subject's body, that sort of thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I get the feeling ya'll are heading towards making rules for these guys so I should hasten to point out the SL already have the three special units slots filled by the Aeterna Vets, Omnia Infiltrators and An-Temural Drop Bunkers. I'd suggest making the Fractus (liking that name by the way) a topic for one of those red Lore boxes, with there never really being enough of them to become a permanent fighting force within the Legion. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 No rules necessary. Just wanted to explore some of the downsides of the neural network. Also, my 40k mentor is willing to buy one or two units for my birthday. If I chose to expand the Wardens, what should I get? I have a consul/praetor, 5 tacs with a power sword, and 5 breachers right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'd say an assault unit so we can have Ruel in the resin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Well. My suggestion would be either breachers/tacticals to make either of them up to 10 men. Then maybe some form of character model you could turn into a Vraben. That would give you a nice small selection of models that can be used as an Allied detachment pretty easily if you want (and are allowed) to use them in games. I suppose the alternative would be terminators you could turn into Myrmidons, just for the awesome factor :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4679934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'd say an assault unit so we can have Ruel in the resin. Well, Ruel is in resin and is traveling to the US with Alex. So, no worries there. Tacticals sound wise, although Nate is encouraging to aim a little higher since I could theoretically get the tacticals in that Heresy box set. How would I go about making Myrmidon? I believe I said they're Tartaros, right Blunt? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/31/#findComment-4680029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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