Maouw Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Do you think is gonna be interesting in the V9 to bring a repulsor to the battle ? So far, i know he cost too much to transport something not worth enough to justify the price of a repulsor, but i would like to run one along three impulsor for the "lets rush into them, disembark and kick ass" feeling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5550789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I'm hoping that transports dont go up too much with the price hike and that that keeps them low enough to be usable. I too would like to feild some big transports. Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5550921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 More compact units makes it easier to trap them, charge past them, and consolidate into other units Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5550970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020    Do you all think it is safe to assume that assault intercessor pack leaders will be able to take a TH or PF?  Just wondering because I was about to build 2 squads of ABR intercessors with TH pack leaders, now think I should maybe hold off? I think the Assault Intercessors will have Pack Leaders able to take the special close combat weapons (like Power Fists and Thunderhammers), else they'll underperform in close combat compared with "stock" Intercessors. However, that being said, don't build anything until we know for sure. You would think this would be the case wouldn't you But this is GW so I'm doubting it until a future errata I understand the pessimism, however thiskit should be compatible with all existing intercessor upgrade sprue that already exist, so it seems likely that the initial rules will contain the Sergeant options as those bits are already released unlike when intercessors first dropped. Wolf Guard Dan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Id love to be able to bring a big boat option , but I dont think with points going up it will be very feasible. If we are looking at a marginal increase of points across the board I cant imagine the repulsor will be worth it for its points. The Impulsor just does the intended job better , its cheap enough , and it has better rules for post disembark , and its got the 4++ (Because why would you not take the shield dome) The Repulsor is great cause its got a ton of drop zone clearing firepower , but because of that its a bullet magnet , and wit the sheer lethality of things in the game right now , it just feels far too expensive to include as it is , then pick it full of an assault unit you want to reach combat and you are looking at another 300 or more points. So like more than a fourth of your list is tied up in this one metal box with no invul. A great deal is made about it being a primaris land raider , but land raiders have not been particularly viable for a while now. Not when people field equipment designed to Zero Knights in a turn , and with the inflexibility of primaris units points will always be a little difficult to work around.  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 New edition standard game length is now 5 turns. No more random rolls to see if you keep on playing to 6 or 7.  Once again, a little less randomness, and you can better plan moves and actions in the late game, as you’ll know exactly when it’s over.   This was stated in the GSC faction focus, but I passed right over it on first read through. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Points are leaking   Outrider bikes are 40pts   I'm really hoping twolves get a discount Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Points are leaking  Outrider bikes are 40pts  45 Im afraid  Based on leaks 7 man 5 las longfang squad drops about 30 points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Alleged new points: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lGSKz3i2l4PLCRRNnbv0vz7YfY0Nvt9kzArcBL8H_O8/htmlview Maouw 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 One thing we dont know about the new points is what they include wargear wise, unless anyone has seen wargear sheets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 One thing we dont know about the new points is what they include wargear wise, unless anyone has seen wargear sheets The second tab on that google doc has the weapons costs. Third tab has some examples of new combined totals. Rune Priest Jbickb 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 July 11th Preorders and 25th release for Indomitus and the New Edition. Â https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/01/indomitus-pre-order-date-revealed/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Â Wolf Priests on Bikes are back, baby! Rune_Priest_Rhapsody 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Â One thing we dont know about the new points is what they include wargear wise, unless anyone has seen wargear sheetsThe second tab on that google doc has the weapons costs. Third tab has some examples of new combined totals. My bad, missed tabs lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 ATV is likely going to be really good, 80 pts, probably 7-8 wounds? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok13 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Looks like supreme command detachment is out for us. I was hoping we could us it to field more HQ. From the twitch stream it is only for primarchs, deamon primarchs and supreme command units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Might be a slot for grimnar if the update the rules and make him a supreme commander which I think is a new term. Â It is starting to look like if you want more HQs a patrol is the cheapest way. 2 CP and a troop choice for 2 more HQs, plus 2 of every other slot, actually looks like a bargain in the new system. But time will tell Valerian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Where’s Tigurius? Terminators about to be fire. Feel bad that tactical equivalent went to 15. TDA sitting part where they are. TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Another word on the grapevine is Stormshields have been nerfed to 4+ unfortunately! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Another word on the grapevine is Stormshields have been nerfed to 4+ unfortunately! Where did that one come from? That’ll really hurt a lot of builds. Also wouldn’t make sense for the new Primaris Captain with a Shield, as he already has a 4++ Invulnerable from his Iron Halo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Lot of people seem to think that it will change to 4+ and then add +1 to saving throw (various competitive players as sources)  Didn’t think iron halos had been confirmed as they have never existed in non core space marine chapters I thought? Edited July 1, 2020 by C0deb1ue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Might be moving to 4+ if the relic shield is 3+. Â Since they ban 2+ invuln saves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 Where’s Tigurius? Terminators about to be fire. Feel bad that tactical equivalent went to 15. TDA sitting part where they are. What happened with terminators? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020  Where’s Tigurius? Terminators about to be fire. Feel bad that tactical equivalent went to 15. TDA sitting part where they are.What happened with terminators? They didn’t go up in points much, if any. TiguriusX and Wolf Guard Dan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Didn’t think iron halos had been confirmed as they have never existed in non core space marine chapters I thought? All Captains have had one, and our Wolf Lords get a Belt of Russ, which does the same thing. Iain_Stormeyes 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364069-9th-edition-incoming/page/22/#findComment-5551881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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