TiguriusX Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 Might be moving to 4+ if the relic shield is 3+. Since they ban 2+ invuln saves Good...give those Lords and Captains a combi melta and show off BS2 rerolling 1s Triszin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Stormbolters went up a point Invictors now 160 equipped Wulfen/TWC could even come down if the stormshield rumour is true Stormravens up abou 20 points re Stormwolves Jump characters up 12-15 Psykers 10 Other characters up about 10% Impulsors now 100+ WE NEED MELEE WEAPONS AND OTHER WARGEAR TO LEAK Iain_Stormeyes 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 ... storm wolves went up....... What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I'd love it if Storm Shields changed to 4++ vs ranged; 3++ vs melee. That'd make them still really good, but no longer insane value: still absolutely great but not too bonkers (as massed firepower can still bust through a 4++ quite quickly). TiguriusX and theprophetofwar 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 They were 4++ at one point. I don’t remember which edition(s), though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok13 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Think the leaks are indicating the new shields increase armour save by 1 and get a 4++ The captain gets a 4+ feel no pain against mortal wounds. Worded as if its due to the shield Edited July 1, 2020 by Havok13 Valerian 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Leaks confirming Relic shield is a 4++ to even mort wounds, +1 on armor save Stormshields are 4++ invuln, +1 to armor save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Hammerfall drop turret leaked. Whirlwind, sister burninator and dropped in one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Where are these leaks confirming coming from? Can you give a source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Leaks confirming Relic shield is a 4++ to even mort wounds, +1 on armor save Stormshields are 4++ invuln, +1 to armor save. Definitely an interesting change, but my Wulfen aren't too happy about the loss of a point of Invulnerable Save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Where are these leaks confirming coming from? Can you give a source? News and rumor section. Someone on is posting images from the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Hammerfall drop turret leaked. Whirlwind, sister burninator and dropped in one That Hammerfall looks straight out Fisher Price to me :) No points confirmed for Stormwolves yet, was just comparing it to Stormravens Triszin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 You can see the servo drop turret in the background work the las talon equipment. It looks great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maouw Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 So no bodyguard keyword for shields dudes ? Alleged new points: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lGSKz3i2l4PLCRRNnbv0vz7YfY0Nvt9kzArcBL8H_O8/htmlview How much can we trust that leak ? Its look like a serious one or a totally made up by black magic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 So no bodyguard keyword for shields dudes ? Yeah, definitely not mentioned. Of course, the dude that typed up all of the details might have just failed to mention it. If they don't have it, though, then there's a decent chance that I'll just skip on Bladeguard Vets, and use the points elsewhere. Judiciar got the rumored Armor of Russ-type ability, which is pretty sweet. Hopefully he is an Elite choice, as also rumored. Just noticed those Master-crafted Power Swords are all Strength +1, which is a new change, too (in addition to the D2), so they are even better than I thought they'd be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 So no bodyguard keyword for shields dudes ? Alleged new points: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lGSKz3i2l4PLCRRNnbv0vz7YfY0Nvt9kzArcBL8H_O8/htmlview How much can we trust that leak ? Its look like a serious one or a totally made up by black magic ? I think Simon Grant saying they can be in units of up to 5 ruled that out, 5 man bodyguard unit would be O.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Gonna skip the box for now and probably just grab a judicar and kitbash some assault ints. This edition feels more gunline than before at the moment and SW didn’t need more nerfs to survivability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Looks like stormshields are 4++, 1+ Edited July 1, 2020 by Triszin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Looks like stormshields no longer give invuln save, only a +1 to armor save... :( They still give a 4+ invuln and add 1 to save Though still a nerf! Edited July 1, 2020 by C0deb1ue Triszin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maouw Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Ok ok, im too lazy to theorycraft all of that but we got more and more data, wich is cool ^^ Do we already know what to choose for troops between assault intercessor and regular ones ? And look like the bikes are kinda...strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Looks like stormshields no longer give invuln save, only a +1 to armor save... :( They still give a 4+ invuln and add 1 to save Though still a nerf! Makes me a little happier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Looks like stormshields no longer give invuln save, only a +1 to armor save... :( They still give a 4+ invuln and add 1 to save Though still a nerf! Makes me a little happier Not much excuse for SW to be so slow/immobile compared to BA or WS if we lack survivability. It was bad enough last edition but guns are even better and our resilience is worse for our elite CC units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 Looks like stormshields no longer give invuln save, only a +1 to armor save... :( They still give a 4+ invuln and add 1 to save Though still a nerf! So a storm shield terminator has a 1+/4++? With any type of cover they get a 0+ base armor save? (Hello storm caller) That is real nice. Unless you pound them with AP3/4 guns the new shield mechanic is better for them against AP1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Tig, Storm shield rumored to be +1 to armor save and 4++ TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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