[BC] The Blackest Heart (OOC)

[Mazer Rackham]

2 minutes ago, Trokair said:

Sorry Mazer, failed ot find any ladybirds, spot count is therefore 0 

 

No sweat. I found one or two. 

[Trokair]

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Yes, but just you and Tro (with my permission) if you've got something saved up.

I havent got anythign preped, but will have something ready asap (after dipping into Eldar game) to tidey that up and move on to mark: Landfall (or should that be shipfall?) +1

[Mazer Rackham]

6 minutes ago, Trokair said:

I havent got anythign preped, but will have something ready asap (after dipping into Eldar game) to tidey that up and move on to mark: Landfall (or should that be shipfall?) +1

 

Yes.

[Machine God]

And He had the Gall to label Kraggan a Turncoat!!! 

 

 

 

[Necronaut]

With abundant apologies to all involved for any induced migraines or aneurisms, the compact, as our illustrious and extremely talented GM has intimated, is still very much on, and Ukalegon is very dedicated to seeing it through to the bitter end. 

 

However...

 

[Machine God]

13 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

 

 

Get your memes correct.

 

The picture is the Force Choke on the Death Star in Episode IV. 

 

But the quote is from Cloud City in Episode V. 

 

 

 

[Necronaut]

Look, dude, I'm doing the best I can with the tools provided.

[Mazer Rackham]

*Sticks head into room*

 

Yep, situation normal.

 

*Fails to explain*

 

*Leaves*

[Trokair]

Slight corossed comunication on the stealth team, sorry. will edit mine to make it work.

[Mazer Rackham]

@A.T. nicely done, we can run with that perfectly.

 

Alright folks, with Tarh and Obi-di - Obi-dah, ObAdiah ha-ah-ah-ah life goes on...having almost completed, and AT having doled out the co-ordinates, all Mortal Players should conflab on the diversion, and Amphibious Trait Players go for a bath. Do your best to connect your narratives, gentlemen.

 

Steal some tanks, kill some folks, RV and get ready for your narrative push. With Crux'as as anointed, he's the man in the top chair, so how he says to do it, goes.

 

Marines, barring Necro should RV in the cistern below the fortress. Don't care how you get there, just go.

 

Keep track of your ammo, boys.

[Mojake]

3 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

If all that's clear, gentlemen?

 

So, I'm clear that this is how it's all proceeding, but is it cool to have a quick meta-discussion on this before we file it away?

 

I can sympathise with Mazer. It's hard to motivate/keep together a motley band of cutthroats and villains, especially when there's a lot of 'GM Only' knowledge being passed around. There's definitely a huge element of trust the GM. That being said, I also agree with what Lysi said earlier:

 

7 hours ago, Lysimachus said:

Hagga is borderline turning the Starhawk around and getting back on the Razor and leaving the rest of them behind. I just don't see any way to win this with the bastion left standing.

 

If we're entertaining the concept that we all have our own goals and these might run counter to each other, then I think it's reasonable to have frustrations in-character which manifest as just bugging out of the mission, or honestly even executing other characters. Nobody wants to be that guy, but Kraggan betrayed us and we sort of let it slide, but if we let another betrayal get away with it then I think Huron will soon be replacing our management. 

 

Varne's plan was to land the Arvus, blow the dock, then get back to the Razor, which satisfies his portion of the compact IMO. Having to come up with reasons to now abandon the Arvus and to head into the sewers that don't contradict what I've already written is using up a good chunk of my dwindling mental bandwidth. The best I can do right now is getting the Arvus shot out of the sky, but we kind of already did that scene.

 

What am I saying here? I don't know. I get it, it's hard enough at the best of times to get a party of five to stick together for 'good-aligned' goals, nevermind... this. I think we as players need to trust the GM that he has a plan for sure. I also think @Mazer Rackham if we have the freedom to backstab each other then we also need to have the freedom to abandon/kill/maim/burn our companions too (within reason). The OOC 'trust the GM' part runs counterintuitive to the IC 'I'm surrounded by liars and awful people' part sometimes. 

 

I'm very tired and waffling a bit, but it's not coming from a place of dissatisfaction, I promise - loving the game. Just hit some cognitive dissonance earlier and have been too busy to put my thoughts into words until now.

 

Peace and love,

Smeg-leg Pete

[FabiusV4lcoran]

Having a ton of fun, just trying to manage it with life stuff.  I posted the prior thing before I saw the ongoing discussion, and remembered that Rakash said he might have issues posting soon so I tried to move myself to the market from Mazer's post.  

 

I guess my question is what would be the best way for him to meet up with everyone, because it looks like things were posted while I was doing that and I'm not sure that I got him with the group per DM instructions like I'd intended.

[Mazer Rackham]

19 minutes ago, Mojake said:

What am I saying here? I don't know. I get it, it's hard enough at the best of times to get a party of five to stick together for 'good-aligned' goals, nevermind... this. I think we as players need to trust the GM that he has a plan for sure. I also think @Mazer Rackham if we have the freedom to backstab each other then we also need to have the freedom to abandon/kill/maim/burn our companions too (within reason). The OOC 'trust the GM' part runs counterintuitive to the IC 'I'm surrounded by liars and awful people' part sometimes. 

 

Some very interesting comments in your post. 

 

For now, if you want Varne to bug out, he can do - take off. The Hydra is gone, the bastion is under siege, now's as good a time as any.

 

I won't force a Player to do something they don't want to, unless it's a case of 'This Must Happen'. I'm all for your Doom Eagle sniffing and snuffing.

 

Go ahead and write it up, and head back home if you'd like to do that. No sweat.

 

15 minutes ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

Having a ton of fun, just trying to manage it with life stuff.  I posted the prior thing before I saw the ongoing discussion, and remembered that Rakash said he might have issues posting soon so I tried to move myself to the market from Mazer's post.  

 

I guess my question is what would be the best way for him to meet up with everyone, because it looks like things were posted while I was doing that and I'm not sure that I got him with the group per DM instructions like I'd intended.

 

Don't worry about that - you maybe hid in a huddle of panicked folks trying to get into the city, something like that. If you can't score the scene, don't panic, I've got you. I was wondering if you just wanted to psychically flame a checkpoint or something on your way in.

 

I know I'm pushing things forward a bit - but post when you have time or whack a placeholder in the IC. We can work with any of that.

 

Edited April 27 by Mazer Rackham

[Trokair]

https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383296-bc-the-blackest-heart-part-ii-ic/page/70/#findComment-6168383

 

Edit made, cut the first paragraph and slightly edited the next two, I think the rest works fine witout contradicting IFF earlier post. 

 

 

 

Edit: erm @Mazer Rackham,not to cause a spanner, but can Tarh go with the amphibious lot? I feel that might be a better ploy to get Mithra into the games as I keep on running into situations where I need to leave her to one side. (and yes I know you pointed out that giant tortoise might be a problem minion for game play reason way back when, so that is my fault entirely).

 

Was thinking of a quick IC post where Tarh has to get wet again (I can already hear him complaining that he will never be dry on this planet) and goes into the river/underground pipes what not that lead to the cistern.

 

If doesn’t work for the grant scheme of the game happy to roll with the other mortals and provide big gun support from Mithra’s back.

Edited April 27 by Trokair

[Mazer Rackham]

32 minutes ago, Trokair said:

If doesn’t work for the grant scheme of the game happy to roll with the other mortals and provide big gun support from Mithra’s back.

 

The reason I suggested Amphibious is because those tunnels are flooded to the brim with all kinds of very nasty bilge water, thanks to Varne's 'wetwork'.

 

If you really want to do it, then I won't stop you, but you're going to have to write it that if it wasn't for Mithra pulling you through the water for hundreds of yards at a time, you would be very, very drowned. You can roll 1D5 and take this off your Wounds at the end.

 

If you can roll with that, gloop-gloop, in the soup.

[Lysimachus]

Post edited: https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383296-bc-the-blackest-heart-part-ii-ic/page/71/#findComment-6168409

 

[Mazer Rackham]

Sorry dude, Machine isn't Amphib. Dog will have to take Wounds, just like Tro.

[Trokair]

45 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

 

The reason I suggested Amphibious is because those tunnels are flooded to the brim with all kinds of very nasty bilge water, thanks to Varne's 'wetwork'.

 

If you really want to do it, then I won't stop you, but you're going to have to write it that if it wasn't for Mithra pulling you through the water for hundreds of yards at a time, you would be very, very drowned. You can roll 1D5 and take this off your Wounds at the end.

 

If you can roll with that, gloop-gloop, in the soup.

 

Fair is fair, my bad choices are there to be made. 

[Lord_Ikka]

I guess Crux'as will leave one platoon of troops in the mercantile district and take the second to try to get into the PDF armory. This will happen immediately after the crash, with the success or failure impacting the meetup with the others.

Edited April 28 by Lord_Ikka

[Mojake]

I wish there was a 'badass' react for Ukalegon's attack on the bastion

[Lysimachus]

8 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Sorry dude, Machine isn't Amphib. Dog will have to take Wounds, just like Tro.

 

2 Wounds taken 

 

[Mojake]

Here's a question I don't think I've ever seen asked:

 

Could a space marine get 'the bends'?

 

Assuming the suit is watertight and the oxygen source is coming from within the armour, it'll be subject to the pressure of deep water as much as a scuba tank, right? Maybe the third lung can be manually held in reserve until decompressing and tackling the expansion of the air in the other two lungs. We know the Dark Krakens can manage it according to recent lore.

 

Interesting.

Edited April 28 by Mojake

[Iron Father Ferrum]

I feel like their enhanced biology would be able to correct or at least compensate for that without issue?  I mean, they can survive in vacuum.  A few bubbles of nitrogen doesn't seem that impressive by comparison.

[Mazer Rackham]

This was actually considered in a previous game, with a discussion of atmospheric compression on how robust the power armour was, to prevent implosive flooding. We've got a doctor in the house who could possibly give us details, but as GM, I would suggest that given the Marine's Unnat Tough, and his implants like Larraman's Organ and the efficiency of highly oxygenated blood, deep atmospheric compression should be avoided, but is not an adverse condition unless an extended situation.

 

Just now, Iron Father Ferrum said:

I feel like their enhanced biology would be able to correct or at least compensate for that without issue?  I mean, they can survive in vacuum.  A few bubbles of nitrogen doesn't seem that impressive by comparison.

 

Ah, but you see, dealing with vacuum and dying in space are a completely different kettle of fish (pardon the pun). In zero atmospheric pressure your lungs explode due to absence, under pressure, the air in your lungs halves, and like aero chocolate, you can feel the bubbles melt...!

 

However, yes, Marines are hardier, and as to Tro, he should be fine. Decompression is usually required from depths of 30 feet or more, which would qualify for the river, but - he wasn't immersed long, and came up reasonably steadily, so should have a few cramps, but he would have been ok.

 

 

 

Edited April 28 by Mazer Rackham

[Necronaut]

Don't you also get the bends mostly from being on a scuba tank (i.e. dissolved high pressure gas in soft tissue and bloodstream)? I don't think I have ever heard of free divers suffering from the bends, but I will admit to being fairly ignorant of things in the diving community.

 

Edit: interestingly, decompression sickness is apparently possible in free divers as well, with some Polynesian communities reporting it particularly amongst those who are making in excess of 40 dives per day to depths exceeding 30m. But as you can see, these people are absolutely nuts.

 

Edited April 28 by Necronaut