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This is sort of just an info dump about the Christian faction I’m creating. I do plan on expanding on the individual orders & such, but as you can probably tell, I have a penchant for long-winded explanations. I tried to put as much relevant information as I could to help “paint a picture,” so to speak, as I could to try & help others understand as much about my faction as possible. Brackets [] indicate info that is more likely to be changed. I would also like to make this a sort of experiment. I’ve always said that I want my faction & lore to be plausible & implausible in relation to the lore of 40K as a whole. Basically I want it to be that you can either accept that God, Jesus & even Satan exist in the universe of 40K, especially in the way I present how they exist, or you can say that my faction is naive & the existence of these is explained away as a sort of collective consciousness or Warp phenomenon born of the faith of these people. Either way, one thing I love is learning more about the lore of 40K. Feel free to give me tidbits of lore & help me to figure out how to reckon with these things in relation to my faction. Constructive criticism is always welcome, especially when it helps me better understand what does or doesn’t work. I’ll edit this post as I get more information as well as responding in the thread. Just remember that you can’t convince me that God doesn’t exist anymore than I can convince you that He does. Like I said, you can either accept my explanation of how He exists in this universe or you can say “this is likely how the rest of the universe explains it.” Let’s keep it civil & respectful above all else. As always, thank you very much for any & all help & God bless! ****************************************************************************************************** Ordo Celestia is the order militant of the renegade empire known as the Scions of the Golden Kingdom. Ordo Celestia is further divided into several sub-orders: The Auric Order: A version of the Adeptus Astartes. The Royal Army: The main military faction, similar to the Astra Militarum. The Inquisition: Self-explanatory. The Sisterhood: Comprised of Battle Sisters as well as Sisters of Silence. Other sub-orders may exist & these sub-orders are often divided even further. Ordo Celestia & the Scions as a whole are separate from the Imperium of Man. They do not worship the God-Emperor or any of the Chaos gods, instead worshiping what they call the “Overlord of Light” whom they claim is the creator of all things. The Scions are considered the latest incarnation of the ancient Abrahamic religion of Christianity that has survived the Emperor’s purge of all religions as they inhabit a “living” star system which for millennia existed outside the galaxy. This star system, called the Aureum System, is nigh impossible to track & can move itself, as well as its planets, moons, asteroids, etc. anywhere it wishes instantly. There are those who believe that the Overlord of Light may in fact be the star, Stella Aurea, which is the center of this star system. The Scions deny this, proclaiming only that the star is not their God, but is a gift from Him, which He has total control over. The Aureum System seems to exist between the material universe & some alternate reality, separate from the Warp or any other dimension for that matter. The Scions are considered to be as naive as the T’au, believing that they can somehow unite all creatures within the galaxy. Though mostly made up of humans & abhumans, the Scions welcome individuals of all species into their ranks, so long as they are willing to accept their faith. Though mostly peaceful, they have had a military for several thousand years, though it has only become more well-organized & trained since the founding of Ordo Celestia, which was founded more than 400 years ago from the present day (though when the “present day” takes place is up for debate), by a Grey Knight grandmaster who traveled to the System’s capital world Eden, which appeared within Imperial space sometime before the Fall of Cadia. Lord Agamemnon Caustus, former leader of the Brotherhood of Lord Caustus, has been declared Excommunicate Traitoris, along with several other individuals who converted with him. He has since taken the alias of Abraham Shields & is declared the founder & Grand Patriarch of Ordo Celestia as well as founder & supreme grandmaster of the Auric Order. Along with him, other founders include his wife, Sarai Weiss, a Sister of Silence & former member of the Adeptus Custodes, now Grand Matriarch of Ordo Celestia & founder of the Sisterhood; Hestia, a former member of the Adeptus Mechanicus, now Forgemaster of Ordo Celestia; Zauriel Weiss, a former chaplain of the Grey Knights; Nathaniel Holt, a former general of the Astra Militarum, now Lord Commander of the Scions’ Royal Army; & Maeve Davenport, a former member of the Adepta Sororitas, now Sister Superior of the Sisterhood. Among them were several Abhumans formerly associated with the Imperium as well as several Xenos. The current spiritual leader of Ordo Celestia & the Scions as a whole is a man named David Shields, the son of Abraham Shields & his wife Sarai. David’s conception & birth should be impossible, given Abraham’s status as an Astartes as well as Sarai being barren. Those who witnessed the birth of David, estimated to be around 5000 individuals, almost immediately converted to Scionism. While most of the witnesses were Humans & Abhumans, at least a few of every species of Xenos were counted among the 5000, all of whom began to preach the word of Christ to their own kind. While some left with Abraham & his followers to the Aureum System, many remained within the galaxy, claiming that they had been given a mission to spread the word. Each of these individuals found varying degrees of success & failure among their own kind. The few Ork Scions were wiped out quickly; Drukhari Scions were subjected to torture, though the Homunculi assigned to them noted that they survived without the need to inflict pain & the screams of these victims provided no sustenance; the one Genestealer, a creature named Galamoth, took its cult to the Aureum System, where they would find ways to serve the Golden Kingdom. Most interesting is what became of the Human witnesses. The Inquisition first attempted to silence the witnesses, but found their inquisitors who interrogated them would too often convert & found their numbers swelled while the Scions were being repressed. This led to the Inquisition changing tactics, opting instead to convince their faithful that the Scions’ “God” was simply an aspect of the God-Emperor & their denial of this fact was because the God-Emperor revealed himself as such as it was the only way they would be convinced of his divinity. This seemed to work as the number of converts dropped, at least until a radical inquisitor from Ordo Hereticus began agitating the Scions, against the will of the Inquisition. [As for the T’au witnesses, it is known that those captured were sent to reeducation camps, though little else is known of their fates…] For four centuries, the Witnesses would spread the word that “the Light will return” & indeed it did. 400 years after vanishing, the Aureum System would reappear in the galaxy somewhere in Imperium Nihilus, heralded by a brilliant golden light that could be seen, not just across the entire galaxy, but even into the other dimensions. The Warp, the Ghostwind, even the darkest crevices of the Webway & Commoragh could see & feel its light! Soon after, Ordo Celestia launched its Lucis Adventus Crusade, a campaign to conquer twelve star systems that would be added to their “Golden Kingdom.” This would last seven years, by the end of which the Scions would indeed have complete control of every planet in these twelve systems. Unfortunately, over the next [9] years following the end of Lucis Adventus, the Scions would lose control of many of the worlds they conquered, causing several of their star systems to be thrown into anarchy. 6 years after Lucis Adventus, the Scions would only have 4 of their 12 conquered systems under their full control. Of the remaining 8 systems, compliance was more than 50% in 5 systems & less than 50% in 3 systems. Worse yet, around this time Ordo Celestia would be dragged into a war with the Imperium after an Imperial inquisitor of [Ordo Xenos] was accidentally killed on a Scion controlled world. [3 years later, a survivor of the first assault against the Scions] would come forward & reveal that the war was initiated by an extremist Inquisitor, named Morgott Voltairian, who had the Imperial Inquisitor killed in order to trick the Imperium into fighting the Scions. The Imperium & the Scions would sign the “Cruxis Treaty” putting an end to the full-scale war between them, however these two still clash often. The main purpose of this treaty is to prevent open war between the two sides & even allow cooperation when their agendas align, however they will fight each other when their goals oppose. Other such treaties have been made by the Scions with other entities such as the T’au Empire, the Asuryani & even [some] Necron Dynasties, all with the hope of keeping civilians as safe as possible.

I think we can all agree that this hobby is both expensive & time consuming, to a point where detractors could easily argue that it is a “waste” of said resources. I’m sure a lot of us would love to disagree, but can’t really argue either & some of us probably agree, but don’t care & have just come to terms with that notion. Regardless of whether we call it a waste of time & money or just time consuming & expensive, we can all agree that a lot of those two resources go into this hobby. Here, however, I’d like to discuss where each of us individually admit might be where we spend the most of these resources in this hobby, whether we’re proud of those parts or not. For me, possibly the biggest offender of wasted time is in lore building. Most of you probably know that I’ve been trying to create a Christian faction in 40K & trying to justify its existence as plausible. What you might not know is just how deep I’ve gone into such an endeavor. I’ve spent months learning the lore of 40K & making minor tweaks, building a history, naming characters & giving them roles, trying to set up locations & coming up with ideas of how to make them strong enough to survive in such a hostile universe without making them too powerful as to make them completely unbelievable. I started a blog on here to try & catalog my thoughts, but I eventually just made a world on World Anvil to better categorize everything & even though that has helped to organize my thoughts, during my research I often find myself pursuing various threads until I’ve gone so far from what I was trying to do, I end up in a different story altogether. It’s fun, but it takes a lot of time away from actually assembling & painting my minis! As for money, apart from buying characters & squads that are often unrelated to the faction I settled on (Grey Knights), I also like to purchase customized bits to give my army a more unique look. This leads to me buying bits that I think I’m going to use, but ultimately end up being unused, or buying bits for minis that are for squads that are unrelated to my chosen faction. This of course only adds to the pile of incomplete projects I have… Anyway, those are what I consider my biggest “wastes” in the hobby. All-in-all, I’m still having fun & I enjoy everything, but these are just my personal gripes with my own habits. I’d love to hear what others would say is their biggest “wastes” in the hobby. It doesn’t have to be anything major, more just areas where you think “I spend way too much here, when I could spend it there.”

CSM 10th edition Pactbound Zealots This is a topic about the detachment Pactbound Zealots in the 10th edition. Do you use it? Are you using it? Do you think it performs well? Do you feel it being a strong or weak detachment? Which Stratagems or/and Enhancements do you use or not use? Would you want to tweak the detachement, and if so how? Units that perform extra well or bad in this detachement? Other Detachement of the Week for Chaos Space Marines can be found in the link below. Chaos Space Marine Detachement of the week 10th edition.

some of the stratagems seem quite good, and I've used devout push quite a few times in games and the vows seem very good (especially Suffer Not the Unclean and Accept Any Challenge) but the Primaris Crusader Squad seems to be under-preforming against anything other than AP 0, S 4 weapons.

Hello everyone, I'm WolfLogic and I've been posting my fic on this site and others since 2021. The thread here is called 40k Alternate Timeline as I didn't have an official title for it yet when I first posted the idea. Since then I got a bit of inspiration and decided to call it "Dreams Fall Apart" The summary I've come up with for the story is as follows: Millennia ago the Emperor completed the Webway Project and initiated a new crusade to conquer it. Driven to the brink of extinction, the Eldar made a pact with the Chaos Gods and were able to drive the Imperium out of the Webway. Now having to hold off countless incursions by the Chaos Eldar the Imperium is spread thin and only time will tell if humanity can survive the onslaught. While the project started off small and with a specific idea in mind, it has since become much larger than I originally anticipated as I have a great time building up the world I've created and adding details and hopefully some nuance. That being said, I like to stay consistent and have things make sense, so a year or so ago I DMed one of my readers and asked if I could bounce ideas off of them. They accepted and the rest is history. Unfortunately, that person is taking a hiatus from the site to work on their own writing and won't be around to give me feedback and beta my work. So I'm looking for either a temporary replacement or if willing, a permanent addition to my little cabal. Please either respond here or DM me if you're interested. Thanks, have a great day everyone! Here's a link to the story if you don't want to try and find it Dreams Fall Apart

I noticed a couple of days ago that the FAQs section on WarCom had a killteam section: https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#kill-team I didn't remember seeing a topic about it on here, or a dedicated article on WarCom, so I feel like it may have slipped under the radar, hence creating this topic. Mods, feel free to move this if it's better suited to the announcements subforum. A couple of things that I noticed were missing have been fixed or clarified, any thoughts?

Frater of the RPG Nook, I have tried to get a few games off the ground in the Nook, but unfortunately time has been against me with other projects, so my attempts have failed. Many threads I have proposed have brought in our regulars and intrepid explorers, but we have been unable to continue with our efforts. A fellow frater asked me how many games actually get played in here and my response was "sadly few". It is obvious to me that really what we need are more GM's in here and a support network to try and match them to games. With that in mind, what can we do to encourage this? I have proposed that we try and get an event in here, but regrettably, things have not come together, so I thought instead of just firing off at half-bore, we should try and boil down what our challenges are, all in one place. Feel free to explore around this list or even add to it. We are all trying to get this thing moving. What do we think are the problems preventing PBP games from happening? What can we do to rekindle interest in the Nook from those who tried/posted before? How can we overcome the barriers to interest that maybe putting people off? These are just some things to get brains buzzing. Any suggestions or comments are welcome, but of course, please keep it civil and constructive. I open the floor now to our esteemed Frater. MR.

How have you been doing with DE against other Index armies and Codex armies? Have you been struggling? Are you enjoying the play style? What works for you and what doesn't? Do you think we need a codex soon or can we manage without one? I just thought I'd start a general discussion here as it seems most other armies have one and it'd be cool to discuss how people are feeling about the BDSM space elves