Let The Galaxy Burn! Balefire Legion: 40k again!

[Forté]

 

Good job on hacking up the Contemptors. Going to be inspiring lots of people with those :tu:

its been ages but then suddenly

 

"A wild Forte appears!"

 

been wondering when you would show up :)

Been busy with real life and non-GW stuff lately.

[thamier]

 

 

Good job on hacking up the Contemptors. Going to be inspiring lots of people with those :tu:

its been ages but then suddenly

"A wild Forte appears!"

been wondering when you would show up :)

Been busy with real life and non-GW stuff lately.

real life is acceptable, but the rest is hersy ;)

[Quixus]

 

Indeed, it looks suitably Gothic. The gun barrels could use some more ornamentation like the dragon heads from the CSM LR kit or the leaf pattern of the Ven Dread Lascannon. Maybe also put a chaos star/eye of horus/some other embellishment on the gun housings on the sides.

 

Voicelog title suggestion: From the Heldrake's mouth

dont know what the leaf pattern is, but might add some trim to the las cannons too, not overly fond of the dragon heads tough.

and thought of adding some chaos marks but might just freehand some later

I was talking about those leaves on the lascannon.

 

I agree just some artwork on the covers would be enough, right now that space looks like a blank spot.

[thamier]

 

 

Indeed, it looks suitably Gothic. The gun barrels could use some more ornamentation like the dragon heads from the CSM LR kit or the leaf pattern of the Ven Dread Lascannon. Maybe also put a chaos star/eye of horus/some other embellishment on the gun housings on the sides.

 

Voicelog title suggestion: From the Heldrake's mouth

dont know what the leaf pattern is, but might add some trim to the las cannons too, not overly fond of the dragon heads tough.

and thought of adding some chaos marks but might just freehand some later

I was talking about those leaves on the lascannon.

 

I agree just some artwork on the covers would be enough, right now that space looks like a blank spot.

 

thank you, might have to think of some more decorations for those weapons then :)

[thamier]

basic build done on the 2nd contemptor, but they are dar far from done, but thought ill share the wip pic anyways

 

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/A5666827-E4F3-4839-8453-6AD90A5CCAE9.jpg

[thamier]

hey everyone, again i find myself in need of your awwomeness.

names, 30k/40k names especially aons of horus names, want it to fit the fluff, instad of just making something up.

 

so how do you guys make names? and how do i find the resepie to make 40k fitting names? have any links or something where i can find name related thingys?

 

thanks for the help

[Teetengee]

I generally try to find words that are from the culture they are based on. Or just pick something I think sounds cool, or latiny(high gothicy)

[thamier]

I generally try to find words that are from the culture they are based on. Or just pick something I think sounds cool, or latiny(high gothicy)

that was fast but, how do i find out what cukture they are from, and after that where do find info on the names from that culture, have any examples and or links?

[Teetengee]

Imperial Fists are Germanic, so I go with english/germanic names for those sorts of fellows, Behind The Name is a good resource for searching names by culture (and surnames, although getting to the surname list can be weird some days).

I would search some of the already used names to see what cultures they come from if you want some theming ideas.

[thamier]

sons of horus what are they? well all of the traitor legions and what culture is darkangels? i know so many questions

 

also how do you translate normal name to a space marine name, my real name is Peter what would that be in spacemarineish?

[Teetengee]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281331-sons-of-horuscthonian-culture/
That topic may be of assistance to you.


Also, I would probably render it as Petros.

Edited December 8, 2015 by Teetengee

[thamier]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281331-sons-of-horuscthonian-culture/

That topic may be of assistance to you.

Also, I would probably render it as Petros.

that is awsome! thanks mate, if you or anyone have more please do share thanks.

[thamier]

can still mull over names and such, but meanwhile the dreadnoughts main body bult now they need trim skulls and chains and some legion markings

 

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/611A86FE-8CEA-404E-8856-76A91F5B591D.jpg

 

 

what do you think? not bad for the static betrayal at calth dreadnought? or horrible?

[Teetengee]

looking pretty good, the second from the left though looks a little strange with the wide angle on the legs next to the others.

[ElDuderino]

Not bad? They are awesome! Great work

[Augustus b'Raass]

INcredible work on the contemptor reposing, mate. Really impressed by it. 

 

On the names: teetengee's link is a good starter for your SoH names. I generally go about naming my characters as follows:

 

First I try to find out more about the culture/feel/iconopgraphy/archetypes the Legion is roughly based on (note that I don;t agree wholly with  FunkyMonkey's reply in the linked thread) Germans for IFs, Monastic Monks mixed with Native Americans for the DAs, Imperial Romans for UMs, Mongols for WSs, etc. Then I do some research about the names of those cultures. And then I 40K-ify the names. 

 

Now, with 40K-ifying I mean I try to imagine what a certain modern, M3 name would evolve into, linguistically, over 28-38 millennia. Some consonants and vowels might disappear, change, or be altered. The 'ch' in the word 'choom' might change into a K or an S. Or I just mix some consonants in given names. Mike Alaster will become Mir Alatek, for example. Note the r and k have swapped places, and the s has been removed.

 

Cthonian seems to be a mix of Ancient Greek culture, World of Darkness gangs, and  biblical mythical creatures. Also, read about the warrior lodges and try to think of a real-world counterpart. Then go from there. Don't let yourself be limited by these, as most legions/chapters don't recruit from one world. Put an Asian sounding name in a squad of mostly germans. The sky is the limit. ;)

[Chaeron]

Love the movement evoked in those reposes - very nice. Looking forward to those being painted!

[thamier]

looking pretty good, the second from the left though looks a little strange with the wide angle on the legs next to the others.

hmm hopefulle its just the angle, that or ill just break his leg for looking silly.

 

INcredible work on the contemptor reposing, mate. Really impressed by it. 

 

On the names: teetengee's link is a good starter for your SoH names. I generally go about naming my characters as follows:

 

First I try to find out more about the culture/feel/iconopgraphy/archetypes the Legion is roughly based on (note that I don;t agree wholly with  FunkyMonkey's reply in the linked thread) Germans for IFs, Monastic Monks mixed with Native Americans for the DAs, Imperial Romans for UMs, Mongols for WSs, etc. Then I do some research about the names of those cultures. And then I 40K-ify the names. 

 

Now, with 40K-ifying I mean I try to imagine what a certain modern, M3 name would evolve into, linguistically, over 28-38 millennia. Some consonants and vowels might disappear, change, or be altered. The 'ch' in the word 'choom' might change into a K or an S. Or I just mix some consonants in given names. Mike Alaster will become Mir Alatek, for example. Note the r and k have swapped places, and the s has been removed.

 

Cthonian seems to be a mix of Ancient Greek culture, World of Darkness gangs, and  biblical mythical creatures. Also, read about the warrior lodges and try to think of a real-world counterpart. Then go from there. Don't let yourself be limited by these, as most legions/chapters don't recruit from one world. Put an Asian sounding name in a squad of mostly germans. The sky is the limit. ;)

 

Thanks Augustus, you are also very good at helping, really nice information mate!

 

Love the movement evoked in those reposes - very nice. Looking forward to those being painted!

thanks mate, but it might take a little while longer, so far i gotten one finished converted and ready for paint

 

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/D2CBE285-DAB1-413B-A17F-BD8364A26D43.jpg

 

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/7BCECF75-364B-4A39-A157-739ED30CB793.jpg

 

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/31A1C81A-C8BC-4370-81C6-1A6591A8777E.jpg

 

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/4ABD1720-07E2-41EE-9941-438CCAE6A8EC.jpg

 

so what do you all think? okay or do over?

[SkimaskMohawk]

Wow, that plastic carding is on point. That being said, it's a bit too chaosy for 30k; word bearers were about the only ones openly rocking arrows and octeds on their armour early to mid heresy (iirc).

 

However, if you plan to do late heresy where the SoH have really started using luperci and stuff then it probably wouldn't be a big problem.

Edited December 18, 2015 by SkimaskMohawk

[KrautScientist]

Whoa, that is looking excellent, mate! Almost makes me want to get another plastic Contemptor for the 40k version of my World Eaters!

 

The trim and studs are very well done, as is the Eye of Horus. I also like the thoughtful way you've used the spikes. One thing that I would change is the head, as I just dislike the stock head on the plastic Contemptor. Why not use some GS to bring it closer to the head on Forgeworld's Sons of Horus Contemptor? Or cut it out altogether and replace it with something more interesting.

 

Apart from that one aspect, sterling work, as usual!

[thamier]

my plan is to do a SoH late heresy at about war of terra, but if its too chaosy then ill have to tone it down a bit, thanks ski

[Teetengee]

Looks great! although I echo K-Sci's comment about the head being a bit boring.

[Teetengee]

-snip-but if its too chaosy then ill have to tone it down a bit, -snip-

you wouldn't dare! ;) but seriously, please don't it looks super good regardless of how well it fits or not (I don't have much of an opinion on that to be honest). Pleaaase keep it, even if it means the contemptor gets used more in 40k than 30k.

[SkimaskMohawk]

Late heresy definitely gets trickier. Emperor's Children almost certainly have started to worship slaanesh in some way, Death Guard got all caught in the warp and forced to pledge loyalty, Eaters are really falling hard to their Nails and TSons got prospero'd and rubric'd. But those are all the "cult" legions so they're a bit special. 

 

As of Vengeful Spirit we know the lodge has influence in the Legion and can do some pretty heavy duty summoning, Horus got buffed up by chaos powers and spent a long time in the warp, and that a Possessed is part of their command entourage. Would this result in a more chaosy look? Probably. But I think it would evolve out of the SoH look that was already established; spiked studs, cabling, trophies, eyes of horus and trim. I don't think there would be that many of the arrows coming off the trim, tho the octed on the right shoulder should be fine; a bit of chaos bling with more SoH themed stuff is what I'd imagine late Heresy SoH would look like, they'd get really into it once they get trapped in the eye during the Legion Wars

[KrautScientist]

I wouldn't tone it down either, to be honest: Let's not forget that the Word Bearers used something like this as early as Isstvan V. By the time the Siege of Terra came rolling around, more than one Primarch had ascended to daemonhood, the Death Guard had mutated into shambling mounds of decay, the Gal Vorbak were all over the place -- there cannot have been any doubt as to the powers behind Horus' rebellion, so chaotic trim seems pretty plausible to me. Plus it looks awesome ;)