++ The Murderers' Call - A Night Lords Community ++

[MrBear]

The app-only short wasn't restricted to the app, it was available to read at the BL website aswell so some people (myself included  ) did mark the text and then use the ctrl+c and ctrl+v commands to save it as a word file.

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So I could really use some help here folks.

 

I got myself 2 boxes for BaC to really build up my NL and maybe even some Luna Wolves but I'm not entirely sure on how to build all the tactical marines the boxes came with.

 

Generally I play a pride of the legion force that's terminator heavy so regular power armor doesn't see much use.

 

Can anyone give me a couple ideas? I have no problem ordering special weapons etc if needed.

[Aeternus]

So I could really use some help here folks.

I got myself 2 boxes for BaC to really build up my NL and maybe even some Luna Wolves but I'm not entirely sure on how to build all the tactical marines the boxes came with.

Generally I play a pride of the legion force that's terminator heavy so regular power armor doesn't see much use.

Can anyone give me a couple ideas? I have no problem ordering special weapons etc if needed.

I planned to use 10 of them to build a seeker squad with combo plas, as I quite like their designation as assassins. Besides, a squad of tenof them with a vigilator and plas can ruin a unit. If you have two boxes, maybe see if you have a friend not using their's, and there you just about have enough!

 

Or same thing with launchers and hbolters. Make a heavy support squad.

 

Or wait for some volkites with hands on, and create some terror squads!

 

Endless possibilities!

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So I could really use some help here folks.

I got myself 2 boxes for BaC to really build up my NL and maybe even some Luna Wolves but I'm not entirely sure on how to build all the tactical marines the boxes came with.

Generally I play a pride of the legion force that's terminator heavy so regular power armor doesn't see much use.

Can anyone give me a couple ideas? I have no problem ordering special weapons etc if needed.

I planned to use 10 of them to build a seeker squad with combo plas, as I quite like their designation as assassins. Besides, a squad of tenof them with a vigilator and plas can ruin a unit. If you have two boxes, maybe see if you have a friend not using their's, and there you just about have enough!

Or same thing with launchers and hbolters. Make a heavy support squad.

Or wait for some volkites with hands on, and create some terror squads!

Endless possibilities!

Terror squads are point for point better than tactical vets too, right? Maybe a couple Volkite squads are in order since pride of the legion will leave some elite slots free...

[Aeternus]

It depends on what you're facing. Infantry heavy lists, typically go with terror squads. The preferred enemy and volkites means they are more effective and efficient than vets with snipers. Vehicle lists though, I'd be more inclined for using vets fully loaded with melts bombs and tank hunters USR.

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Iirc terror squads can all have melta bombs too. Though tank hunters is definitely a good idea. Hmm maybe I'll make 2 units of 10 of each and then use the last 20 for Luna Wolves.

[Aeternus]

Iirc terror squads can all have melta bombs too. Though tank hunters is definitely a good idea. Hmm maybe I'll make 2 units of 10 of each and then use the last 20 for Luna Wolves.

Just checked. Terror sqauds can have the huntsman take mb, but only him. Vets are allowed to take mb for each member of the squad.

 

A unit of both is always a good idea, but without using terror assault, I don't know if there is an easy way to get the vets close enough to melta something. Does PotL let you have them take pods?

 

And yeah, if you were making a terror squad probably wait until the new volkites come out :)

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Iirc terror squads can all have melta bombs too. Though tank hunters is definitely a good idea. Hmm maybe I'll make 2 units of 10 of each and then use the last 20 for Luna Wolves.

Just checked. Terror sqauds can have the huntsman take mb, but only him. Vets are allowed to take mb for each member of the squad.

A unit of both is always a good idea, but without using terror assault, I don't know if there is an easy way to get the vets close enough to melta something. Does PotL let you have them take pods?

And yeah, if you were making a terror squad probably wait until the new volkites come out :)

Well that definitely makes need to feature both if at all possible. I know PotL makes tac vets troop choices and if I run Sevatar I *think* they also get infiltrate? No idea about drop pod but they definitely seem like it'd be necessary....

 

So maybe a unit of each, one to focus on troop mulching and another to focus on armor? Plus the terminators are great to do both with a smattering of chainfists.

 

And then I'd still have elites slots open for other goodies.

[Aeternus]

It depends on how you view Sevatar's 'master of ambush'. I use it as the d3 units get infiltrate, which you could definitely use with the Vets. However I've seen others use it as the infiltrators get acute senses. Which doesn't reeeaaally help much :/ Main time I run melta vets is using terror assault, so I just throw them in a pod, throw it at a spartan or equivalent, and call it a day :D Without pods it may be harder, but definitely still doable. Orbital Assault maybe?

 

If you're running PotL, then you could definitely have your troops focus on anti armour, while you have a terror sqaud chooming things left right and centre. You should have enough Anti tank elsewhere to let you run your elites on infantry duty.

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It depends on how you view Sevatar's 'master of ambush'. I use it as the d3 units get infiltrate, which you could definitely use with the Vets. However I've seen others use it as the infiltrators get acute senses. Which doesn't reeeaaally help much :/ Main time I run melta vets is using terror assault, so I just throw them in a pod, throw it at a spartan or equivalent, and call it a day :D Without pods it may be harder, but definitely still doable. Orbital Assault maybe?

If you're running PotL, then you could definitely have your troops focus on anti armour, while you have a terror sqaud chooming things left right and centre. You should have enough Anti tank elsewhere to let you run your elites on infantry duty.

Hmmm I'll definitely have to see if they can take a pod with PotL, if they can I could make a really mean 1000 point list!

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Hey folks just a quick question. What are my options as far as commission painting studios in the US? I know of Myles @ Lil legend and he does excellent work but I don't know if he's located in the US.

 

I'm looking to get a primarch or two done as a display piece/focal point for my armies.

 

Also, if anyone has a general idea on cost that'd be great too! Thanks in advance.

[Augustus b'Raass]

Try BTP? Or are they canadian?

 

Your sqauds need CHOOM. :tu:

[Larkyn]

Try BTP? Or are they canadian?

 

Your sqauds need CHOOM.

 

 

Please, for the love of the Gods, do not use Blue Table Painting. I've heard too many horror stories about them to recommend them. Plus, they seem stupidly high priced for the mediocre level they paint at. I could do the same thing for half to three quarters of the cost.

[Balthamal]

Lil Legend is based in the UK. Pleasantly surprised to find out Myles is about a 50 minute drive away from me.

 

As for the US based ones, the only ones I know are through podcasts - Scattershot Painting, Smells Like Wargaming and Frontline Games although I've no idea on their prices/quality

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Lil Legend is based in the UK. Pleasantly surprised to find out Myles is about a 50 minute drive away from me.

 

As for the US based ones, the only ones I know are through podcasts - Scattershot Painting, Smells Like Wargaming and Frontline Games although I've no idea on their prices/quality

Thanks Balthamal! Pretty bummed Myles isn't in the US though.....I'll check out the others you mentioned!

[Balthamal]

Shipping isn't ballbreakingly bad but I guess it depends on how much you're looking to get done. Centerpiece models won't cost the world unless they're something crazy like a Falchion

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Shipping isn't ballbreakingly bad but I guess it depends on how much you're looking to get done. Centerpiece models won't cost the world unless they're something crazy like a Falchion

It's less a fear of shipping costs (since I ship nationally for free through work) and more a worry of more time spent in transit, meaning for potential for damage to the model. Which would royally suck!

[SkimaskMohawk]

It depends on how you view Sevatar's 'master of ambush'. I use it as the d3 units get infiltrate, which you could definitely use with the Vets. However I've seen others use it as the infiltrators get acute senses. Which doesn't reeeaaally help much :/ 

 

I emailed FW about this months ago, they said it was the 6th ed version.

[Flint13]

Damn Tarvick.

 

Those Night Lords are stupid pretty. I love the huge range of armor marks.

 

Glad to see you back at it ^_^

Edited November 30, 2015 by Flint13

[Augustus b'Raass]

Out of likes. Tarvick, that´s one great looking sqaud right there. Nice atmospheric fluff, and I love the different marks - also, is that sergeant a metal figure from the Rogue Trader era?

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Forgive me if this has been established and explained already, or if perhaps there's a readily available source I can scour, but do we have any definitive way we know the NL were organized during the great crusade?

 

Did they have great companies/chapters? Or mostly only the basic company of ~1,000 marines we're used to? Did each company then get divided into smaller companies comprising their tactical, assault and heavy support units?

 

I *thought* I had seen an organizational chart in one of the HH books but don't have them handy currently, and even if it was outlined would it be safe to assume the Night Lords were organized in such a way?

[Balthamal]

There's a chart stipulating how all twenty legions were organised upon departing Terra for the Great Crusade but that standard underwent significant changes across pretty much all the Legions as they were reunited with their Primarch and developed preferred methods of warfare. 

 

As far as the VIII goes, much like the Sons of Horus, the main formation was the company, which varied in size from a hundred or so marines to over a thousand in size, all commanded by a captain. Those companies would have tactical/assault/heavy elements complimented by armour support and specialist entities like the Terror Squads and Night Raptors in addition to regular Terminator Claws (the Atramentar were the elite of the Legion and shouldn't be confused that all Terminators in the Legion belonged to the 1st company) In addition that, several companies took on a more specialised role forming armoured battalions or aerial assault sections.

 

When larger forces were required and several companies pooled together, a designated captain would hold seniority (usually one of the Kyroptera) and would take a title based on the Nostraman nobility (if they didn't have one already) like Duke or Regent. 

 

Overall the organisation of the Legion was very fluid, in the leadership changed hands frequently due to murder duels and claws/squads were absorbed by other companies as dictated by war. Add to the fact that no one really knows just how many there were (it's been speculated from anywhere in the region of one hundred and fifty thousand to as high as the two hundred thousand mark) adds a lot of flexibility with how to portray the VIII

[ThatOneMarshal]

Hey Y'all, I've been trying to start my 30k Night Lords again and I've run into a problem, I can't figure out the right color scheme ! It's truly frustrating me and driving me crazy because I can't figure out a paint scheme that I really like. I'm not sure on what kind of paint scheme I want however. I'm not sure if I want to go dark blue or a lighter blue, however I've been leaning towards a more dark, deep blue. I've tried to look online for inspiration or anything thats really popped at me. The closet I got to inspiration was artwork, the most inspiring being the cover for Prince of Crows. The blue featured in both I really like:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EkKWooL2QoY/UzSJE-jixxI/AAAAAAABA7w/i8NVk6Tx7g4/s1600/chainsaw.jpg 

http://40.media.tumblr.com/1221cd2afdeddf2eb0c7628246e03098/tumblr_n33y6dyqyT1tpkxwbo2_1280.jpg

 

I know it's artwork, so it probably isn't going to be easy, however I've got to try it  . Any help appreciated.

[Paradigm]

I base coat mine in the old Necron Abyss, then use an airbrush to zenithal highlight with a sky blue. They stay quite dark, and the two tones allow a lot more detail to come out. I've used spray paint cans of midnight blue and light blue in the past as well, then just hit it with matte varnish to flatten the finish. You could crank out marines extremely fast, that look quite good. Especially since you don't have to do a ton of work with metallics on 30k Night Lords.

[helterskelter]

Anyone for a Crozius Chainglaivum? Based loosely off the mythical spear Gae Bulga

 

http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz184/Lamenterkyle/Mobile%20Uploads/20151210_174506_zpszaaewyqe.jpg