Indefragable Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I like the idea of shields reducing enemy to hit rolls by 1. Would represent the increased difficulty of hitting the person with one. Something like -1 To Hit, -1S, -1D to attacker and -1A to bearer (to a min of 1) would be a cool reflection of the tradeoff between offense/defense when using a shield. Quixus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5239673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Unless you are wielding a two-handed weapon one-handed thanks to the shield there shouldn't really be a decrease in offense. That's gamer thinking. ^^ In fact it probably increases your offense because it lets you create openings more easily. ;) Edited January 22, 2019 by sfPanzer Quixus and Arkangilos 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5239700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 That's gamer thinking. ^^ Exactly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5239708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 That's gamer thinking. ^^ Exactly Well we don't need that thinking because we have points to balance those things. If it makes the unit better it also makes the unit more expensive. ;) Quixus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5239710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 And as you’ve pointed out a shield can be a weapon too . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5239860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_Dew Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'm not sure if i want them to have Storm Shields or Boarding Shields, 2+,3++ or 2+,4++ and Defensive Grenades. that 50-50 save chance or the no bonus attacks, second thoughts the storm shield, defensive grenades are first turn and first unit charging only... also wow i suck at describing rules before my first coffee of the day Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5240079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Custodes have the -1 to hit shields so that could work. They're small-ish by comparison so just the negative to hit and no increase to save would be cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5240100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 BROTHERS, OUR FATHER ARRIVES! Dont-Be-Haten, Kaese, Damon Nightman and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeblerartillery Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 THIS IS NOT A DRILL Spyros 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 That face though...not a huge fan right now. The rest is stunning and will be intimidating to paint! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I want him so badly even though I don't care for 30k or Resin models lol Looking forward to the limited version with the diorama base he's coming with. Also as a sidenote I love how his hair looks more like raging flames than goldilocks the way its modeled. :D Spyros 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dread05 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Angels, meet daddy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 40k sanguínor counts as incoming. Dolchiate Remembrancer and Dont-Be-Haten 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mapple Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I'm winding down on some other hobbies and thought "I hadn't checked the old B&C in a month or two. I wonder what is... OH LAWDY! HE'S GORGEOUS!"Time to break out the red and gold. Dolchiate Remembrancer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 In terms of the Sanguinius model, I'm still a bit shocked that it's actually happened. I've been waiting for this moment since I first got into the TableTop 5 years ago. First, initial impression: "Yup." ...as in, yes, that is Sanguinius as we've been waiting for him, doing something epic and a model that will grab your eye from across the room, let along on the table. Little kids will wonder into place space and immediately ask "who is that?" Upon closer inspection, I have to be fair to my criteria laid out here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353139-rank-fws-primarch-models/?p=5234871 ...in that I don't think I'm as big of a fan of the motion sculpts as I am of the epic static pose ones. For me (IMHO), I think it's easier to notice what feels off with them rather than what went right with them. And for Sanguinius it's the hair...just like with Corax. It instantly pulls my hair away and makes me realize I'm looking at a model. That being said, I've changed my opinion on it about 8 times in the 10min since I've first seen it, so the verdict is out, but I have to trust my initial gut of "yes!" As ADB says, sometimes you just gotta play the hits and Sanguinius' model, pose and all, is about as close to a classic hit as we get. Can't really go wrong with this. Thanks to @Ranwulf for the comparison shots of the iconic nature of this pose. Dont-Be-Haten, Spyros, LutherMax and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Looks good, but why does GW put elaborate hilts on two handed weapons instead of a proper cross guard? I think it looks silly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 My own thoughts have gone 360 about 24 times now since the first image came out this morning.Overall, I'm landing on "good"/"positive" overall b/c I think at the end of the day, it will REALLY stand out on the tabletop and ANY model outside of a Titan that is put next to him is going to look like they're about to eat it....and the dice due love Rule of Cool. At the end of the day, that's a WIN for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Love it. Bear in mind that this is Sanguinius one of two Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_Dew Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Looks good, but why does GW put elaborate hilts on two handed weapons instead of a proper cross guard? I think it looks silly. google image Swiss Sabre, elaborate hilts on two handed swords were a thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Bear in mind that this is Sanguinius one of two Is it? I read it as the second option is the same model with an alternate base, although if there is a second model I'll have to keep an eye out for that, there's something about the pose that just looks off - not sure quite what, but I think it's the wings - He definitely looks like he's diving, but I've never seen a bird dive with it's wings like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The4thHorseman Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 40k sanguínor counts as incoming. Absolutely. brother_b 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Bear in mind that this is Sanguinius one of two Is it? I read it as the second option is the same model with an alternate base, although if there is a second model I'll have to keep an eye out for that, there's something about the pose that just looks off - not sure quite what, but I think it's the wings - He definitely looks like he's diving, but I've never seen a bird dive with it's wings like that. His wings have opened to slow his descent as he goes for the attack! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I’m not a fan of the pose but I love absolutely everything else about it. It’s still a buy for me. It’s the one primarch I knew I would get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Not enough FURY on this model for me. Also he looks kinda like he slipped off that rock :P But hey, this is our gene-father !! Gotta love him :) Quixus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299786-ix-legion-information-and-rumours/page/19/#findComment-5243564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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