Raktra Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Mortera, Abyssi, how our universe treats knowledge of daemons differently and how psykers are viewed compared to HH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 remaining facts: - BotL rules - forget all the others - we got cookies - Insurrection preview released + covered in a youtube vid *drops mic* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 What we had instead of Ullanor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Oh, those are some good points. Those touch upon some of the most basic yet most fundamental differences between us and canon. Any other suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Daer'dd got hella wenches. And said wenches could double as 30K SoB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Vizenko instead of Nikaea Pariahs Suzerainty as a third faction Quarith instead of Ullanor Those are the main differences I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Mortera Abyssii Vizenko Suzerainty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Sim, do you still stand by this view on Molech, with all it implies for the Emperor's trajectory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Onemind Syndicate suggests a series of videos cuz 40 facts are easier to comprehend. I'm thinking that covering this alternate universe would be like a series of videos. Having more than 40 facts will be overwhelming. I'm thinking each week we devote a video covering a specific topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Sim, do you still stand by this view on Molech, with all it implies for the Emperor's trajectory? Yes! The Molech power-up is not part of BotL, and all of it's obnoxiousness is not part of our canon. That is one of the few clear ways that demonstrates our adherence to being based on "Canon 1.5". In the original edition (and for a great deal of editions/time after it), the Emperor came to his power through a combination of shamanic mass suicide and simply surviving the eons. This Emperor is his own force and did vanquish the Void Dragon as seen in Mechanicum. Another example of 'Canon 1.5' is how much information is given to the Imperium about Chaos. In the original canon, the Emperor is completely upfront about them, being a clear antagonist against them. In the revised canon, the Emperor offers no words of warning. Here, in BotL, we strike a balance between the two extremes. Onemind Syndicate suggests a series of videos cuz 40 facts are easier to comprehend. I'm thinking that covering this alternate universe would be like a series of videos. Having more than 40 facts will be overwhelming. I'm thinking each week we devote a video covering a specific topic Oh, that makes everything so much easier! How specific do the topics need to be? Does he want to be primarily chronological or subject-based? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I invited him to discord to discuss those things. But as i know the channel it could be everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Sim, we aren't stating where He came from, right? I'm keen to spin some in-universe theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Sim, we aren't stating where He came from, right? I'm keen to spin some in-universe theories Well, the truth is only known to several people in-universe, so it'd be easy for other theories to arise, especially since the Emperor himself is not keen on revealing his roots to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Even canon has differing hypotheses on His origins. At the beginning of Master or Mankind, Koja Zu tells Valdor that He is a rogue AI from the Dark Age of Technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Apparently that was Alan Bligh's favourite in-verse one. I do quite like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Wait, Bligh’s favourite was that the Emperor, the anti-Chaos itself, was a wacky robot? That’s... that’s odd to me. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Wait, Bligh’s favourite was that the Emperor, the anti-Chaos itself, was a wacky robot? That’s... that’s odd to me. In-universe, from a person living at the end of the Age of Strife. I never said he believed it, just that AD-B says he "loved" it. And not specifically an AI, but a "weapon" of the Dark Age Edited December 31, 2017 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Regardless, we are using the shaman origin to give us the meta-foundation. As mentioned previously, given how few people are aware of the Emperor's origin, that leaves plenty of room in-universe for other theories to be thrown around. Sound good, Blunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 So, if we're allowed to delve into the meta side of things, our first 40k Facts video should be devoted to establishing the setting and nothing more. Like so... Fact #1: Brotherhood of the Lost is set in an Alternate Universe where the Emperor created 18 different Primarchs and Legions from the canon ones. Fact #2: The sole exceptions to this are the Thousand Sons and the Space Wolves. The caveat being that they become BotL's Lost Legions. This is both a respectful nod to canon and an ironic twist. How's that for a start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Yeah. I think that is a good starter. Fact#3: we were all lost which means our legions were all lost legion projects and gathered for a new universe ( should explain the irritation when some guus see the wardens with xi and xii) Fact#4: skip nikaea we have vizenko and gene manipulation Fact#5: the warmaster.is not the.traitor nor is he the most loved son. Legionare 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Fact 5: Quarith instead of Ullanor Fact 6: Abyssii Fact 7: Pariah Legions Fact 8: Day of Revelation, loyalists from Traitor and traitor from Loyalists Legions switch sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Fact 9: the Suzerainity Fact 10: Pariah Legions Edited December 31, 2017 by Raktra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Fact 11: lost Fact 12: we plan to release 9 Books with the last 8 divided into minitrilogies. Fact 13: Pariah Legions ^^ Fact 14: We need more writers, artists, campaign designers and contributors Fact 15: completly combatible with fw age of darkness rulesets. Fact 16: no, de don't earn and money with it. Fact 17: Cohorts replace Chapters in the 2nd founding Fact 18: We even get the epic struggle good vs neutral....damn neutrale, I hate them Fact 19: We will never habe primaris.. Did we mention the Genesis Legion and the war of the false primarch? Fact 20: We have a primarch with cute Elven ears. To Bad he can't See them because he is blind. Edited December 31, 2017 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I'd cut out all 40K related stuff like Primaris for now. ;) Instead, we should mention the Pariah Legions. And Andezos non existing elven ears are a unofficial fact for a later vid. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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